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Yuki Ito

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For the inherited annuity question - make sure you check if the annuity was a qualified or non-qualified annuity. This makes a HUGE difference in how it's taxed. Qualified annuities are purchased with pre-tax money (like in an IRA or 401k), so distributions are fully taxable. Non-qualified annuities are purchased with after-tax dollars, so only the earnings above what your mom paid into it (the basis) should be taxable. The trickiest part with inherited annuities is that the insurance company often doesn't know what the original owner paid in, so they put the full amount as taxable. But you can contact them and ask for the "cost basis information" - sometimes they have it but just don't put it on the 1099-R automatically.

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StarStrider

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Thanks for that info! I called Prudential and they were actually able to find the original basis amount my mom paid into the annuity. It was around $41,000, which means only about $26,800 should be taxable instead of the full amount. They're sending me a corrected 1099-R. One question though - do I need to file any special forms with my tax return to show this calculation or will the corrected 1099-R be enough?

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Yuki Ito

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The corrected 1099-R should be sufficient for your tax return. When you get it, Box 2a (the taxable amount) should show the approximately $26,800 figure instead of the full distribution amount, and Box 2b should be unchecked to indicate that the taxable amount is determined. No additional forms are typically required for reporting this on your personal tax return. TurboTax will properly handle this once you enter the corrected 1099-R information. Just be sure to wait for that corrected form before filing your taxes, and keep a copy of both the original and corrected 1099-R for your records in case of any questions later.

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Carmen Lopez

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Has anyone had experience with the 10-year rule for inherited annuities? My spouse inherited an annuity and we're trying to figure out if we need to take all the money within 10 years or if different rules apply for non-spouse beneficiaries?

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Andre Dupont

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The 10-year rule usually applies to inherited IRAs and qualified retirement plans under the SECURE Act, not typically to non-qualified annuities (which is what the original poster seems to have). For non-qualified annuities, beneficiaries generally have options like taking a lump sum (which is what OP did), annuitizing the payments, or in some cases taking distributions over their life expectancy.

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I created a custom Excel spreadsheet that helps with ERTC/PPP optimization that I'm happy to share. It's not as fancy as dedicated software, but it has formulas that calculate different scenarios based on which wages you allocate where. Key features: 1. Separates employees by quarter/PPP period 2. Calculates ERTC for different qualified wage caps 3. Optimizes PPP forgiveness with non-payroll expenses 4. Shows total benefit comparison between different allocation methods Message me your email if you want a copy. It comes with no guarantees but has worked well for my 30-employee manufacturing business.

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Ravi Sharma

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This sounds great! Would your spreadsheet work for a restaurant business with about 45 employees? And does it account for the different ERTC rates between 2020 (50% of qualified wages) and 2021 (70% of qualified wages)?

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It should definitely work for a restaurant with 45 employees. You'll just need to add more rows for the additional staff, but all the formulas will adjust automatically. And yes, it has separate sections for 2020 and 2021 with the different credit percentages (50% vs 70%) and different qualified wage caps ($10,000 per year in 2020 vs $10,000 per quarter in 2021). I actually designed it when helping a friend with his restaurant, so it already has some restaurant-specific features like allocating tipped employees appropriately. Just make sure you customize the state unemployment rate section since that impacts some calculations.

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Has anyone actually had their ERTC claim accepted and received a check yet? We submitted amended 941s for Q2-Q4 2020 and Q1-Q3 2021 almost a year ago and haven't heard anything. Our CPA says the IRS is backlogged by 18-24 months on these claims. Just wondering if there's any light at the end of this tunnel...

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Omar Zaki

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We just got our ERTC refund last month after waiting 14 months. Filed in March 2022 and check arrived April 2023. About $168k total. No explanation for the delay and no interest payment included even though they're supposed to pay interest after 45 days. Just be patient, it'll come eventually.

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Check if your old employer might have done a "forced rollover" of your 401k. This happened to my husband. He left a job in 2017, completely forgot about a small 401k (like $8k), and then in 2024 got a 1099-R out of nowhere. Turns out the company's plan administrator had changed and they did a forced transfer of inactive accounts under a certain dollar amount. They claimed they sent notices but we never got any. The money had been moved to some default IRA provider we'd never heard of. Call the company on the 1099-R and ask specifically about the source of funds and when the account was opened. Get as much info as possible about where the money came from originally.

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Thank you! This sounds very similar to what might have happened to me. Did your husband end up owing taxes on the distribution? And did he have any luck getting the money back after all that time?

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Yes, he did owe some taxes because they processed it as a distribution rather than a direct rollover, which was super annoying. We had to pay about $1,600 in taxes on it. We probably could have fought it, but the amount wasn't worth hiring a tax pro for. He was able to claim the remaining money though! We contacted the company, verified his identity, and they sent a check for the remaining amount (after the withholding they'd already taken out). Took about 3 weeks to get the check. If your situation is similar, definitely call them ASAP to claim your money before it potentially gets sent to the state as unclaimed property.

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Leila Haddad

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If it helps, you can check the National Registry of Unclaimed Retirement Benefits at https://www.unclaimedretirementbenefits.com or your state's unclaimed property website. Sometimes forgotten 401ks end up there. Also, do you remember if you worked for a company that might have been acquired or merged with another? Sometimes during corporate restructuring, retirement plans get transferred to different administrators and people lose track.

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Emma Johnson

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That unclaimed benefits site is legit. I found an old pension I didn't even know I had from a summer job in college. Only about $3,200 but hey free money!

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Lucy Lam

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I had a similar experience but the opposite way - TurboTax showed $280 more than TaxSlayer. Turns out TurboTax was correctly applying a savers credit that TaxSlayer missed. One trick I learned: you can view the actual forms before filing with either service. If you look at the completed 1040 forms from both and compare them line by line, you'll usually spot where the difference is coming from. It's usually on one specific line or schedule, and once you find it, you can research whether that specific calculation is correct.

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Aidan Hudson

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This is great advice! Finding the specific line where the difference occurs is key. Then you can google that specific tax form line to check which calculation is correct.

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Zoe Wang

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Just to add another perspective - sometimes the difference isn't because one software is "right" and the other is "wrong." Tax law has gray areas where reasonable people can interpret things differently. If you're self-employed or have investment income, check how each platform is handling your qualified business income deduction or investment expense allocations. These areas have some subjective elements where different software might make different but equally legitimate calculations. I personally would go through the comparison process others have suggested, but if both approaches seem reasonable, I'd probably go with the higher refund. Just make sure you can justify the positions taken on your return if asked!

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Another option to consider is using USPS mail forwarding service instead of a PO box. You can set up temporary forwarding for the time you'll be gone, and it's usually cheaper than a PO box. I did this when I spent 3 months abroad last year. Just make sure to set it up well in advance of your departure.

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Doesn't mail forwarding take a long time though? I've heard it can delay mail by 1-2 weeks, which could be risky for time-sensitive tax documents.

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In my experience, there was about a 3-5 day delay when I first set it up, but after that it worked consistently. You're right that it's not instantaneous like having someone check a local PO box. If you're concerned about time-sensitive documents, you might want to contact the senders directly (employers, banks, etc.) and change your address with them temporarily or opt for electronic delivery where possible. That's more reliable than depending on mail forwarding for critical documents.

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Has anyone changed their address directly with the IRS temporarily? I found this form 8822 for address changes, but I'm not sure if it's worth filing for a 2-month temporary change.

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Oscar Murphy

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Filing Form 8822 is really only necessary for a permanent address change. For a temporary situation, it's overkill and might actually cause confusion. The IRS processes those form submissions manually and it can take weeks or months to update in their system.

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