< Back to IRS

Elliott luviBorBatman

Weird tax rule examples that don't make sense?

So I've been doing my taxes for a few years now and I feel like I keep stumbling across these super bizarre tax rules that make no logical sense. Like why is a garden hose deductible for a business but not if I use it at my rental property? Or how some medical expenses are deductible but only if they exceed a certain percentage of income? I recently found out that if you win a car on a game show you have to pay taxes on the FULL value even if you sell it for less! That seems completely unfair. Does anyone have other examples of tax rules that just seem completely random or illogical? I'm working on my 2025 filing (for 2024 taxes) and trying to understand if there are other weird things I should know about. I feel like there must be some strange loopholes or bizarre deductions I'm missing.

Demi Hall

•

The tax code is definitely full of head-scratchers! One of my favorites is the "hobby loss" rule. If you make money from a hobby, you have to report it as income. But if you lose money on that same hobby, you generally can't deduct those losses unless you can prove it's actually a business with a profit motive. Another weird one is that gambling losses are only deductible to the extent of your gambling winnings. So if you win $5,000 but lose $7,000 gambling in the same year, you can only deduct $5,000 of those losses. You still end up showing $5,000 in income even though you're actually down $2,000 overall. The home office deduction is also famously tricky - the space must be used "exclusively and regularly" for business. Use that home office to pay personal bills occasionally? Technically disqualified from the deduction!

0 coins

Wait seriously about the gambling thing?? That seems so unfair. So if I'm down money overall for the year, I still have to pay taxes like I made money? That's insane. Also what about the wash sale rule for stocks? I never understood why they make you wait 30 days. Is there any workaround for that?

0 coins

Demi Hall

•

Yes, that's exactly how the gambling tax rule works! The IRS wants their cut of your winnings but won't fully recognize your losses. You can only deduct gambling losses as an itemized deduction, and only up to the amount of your winnings. So if you're a net loser for the year, the tax code doesn't fully recognize that reality. The wash sale rule prevents you from claiming a tax loss when you sell a security at a loss and buy a "substantially identical" security within 30 days before or after the sale. The purpose is to prevent people from harvesting tax losses while maintaining essentially the same investment position. The main workaround is buying similar but not identical investments (like a different ETF that tracks a similar index but isn't "substantially identical").

0 coins

Kara Yoshida

•

I struggled with understanding all the weird tax rules for years until I found a tool that actually explains things in plain English. I was especially confused about rental property deductions vs. business deductions (like your garden hose example!). Have you guys tried https://taxr.ai? It analyzes your documents and explains all these strange rules specific to your situation. I uploaded my previous tax returns and it highlighted several odd deductions I was missing - like the fact that certain home security systems can be partially deductible if you have a home office. The thing I found most helpful was that it explained WHY these weird rules exist, which made them easier to remember and apply correctly.

0 coins

Philip Cowan

•

Does it actually work for really specific tax situations? I have a side business selling handmade crafts and also do some freelance writing, plus I moved states mid-year. Tax software always seems to miss something with my complicated situation.

0 coins

Caesar Grant

•

idk sounds like an ad to me. how much does it cost? i bet its expensive and doesnt tell you anything more than turbotax would.

0 coins

Kara Yoshida

•

It absolutely handles specific situations - that's actually where it shines compared to general tax software. It identified several craft-specific deductions for my wife's Etsy business that we had been missing, like certain material storage solutions that qualify as business equipment rather than household items. It's especially good with multi-state situations since it compares state-specific rules. It's actually way more affordable than I expected, especially considering what I saved. I don't want to break any forum rules by discussing specific pricing, but it was definitely less than what I paid for premium tax software, and it found deductions those programs missed entirely.

0 coins

Philip Cowan

•

Just wanted to update after trying out taxr.ai that someone mentioned above. I was skeptical but desperate to figure out my weird tax situation with my side hustle and state move. It actually found a bizarre rule I'd never heard of - apparently since I moved states for work and my new job is at least 50 miles farther from my old home, my moving expenses might actually be deductible on my state return (though not federal anymore). Also explained that my craft supplies can be deducted differently depending on whether I'm selling primarily online vs. at craft fairs. Feels good to finally understand these weird tax rules instead of just being confused by them. Tax season for 2025 doesn't seem so scary anymore!

0 coins

Lena Schultz

•

One of the weirdest tax things I discovered is how hard it is to actually get someone at the IRS on the phone to explain these bizarre rules. I spent HOURS on hold trying to figure out why my rental property depreciation was calculated differently than my business equipment depreciation. I finally found this service called https://claimyr.com that got me through to an actual IRS agent in about 15 minutes instead of the 2+ hours I was spending on hold. They have this system that basically waits on hold for you and calls when an agent is available. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c Honestly, getting a real person to explain these weird tax rules made way more sense than trying to interpret the IRS website myself.

0 coins

Gemma Andrews

•

How does that actually work though? Seems sketchy that they can somehow skip the line when everyone else has to wait on hold forever.

0 coins

Caesar Grant

•

yeah right, like the irs is gonna answer any of your questions clearly. they probably just tell you to "consult a tax professional" or read some impossible to understand publication. waste of money if you ask me.

0 coins

Lena Schultz

•

They don't skip the line - they use an automated system that basically waits on hold for you. When an IRS agent picks up, you get a call and are connected directly to them. It saves you from having to sit by your phone for hours listening to the hold music. I totally get your skepticism - I felt the same way about the IRS being helpful. But I was surprised that once I actually got through to a human, they were pretty knowledgeable. The agent walked me through exactly how rental property depreciation works differently than business equipment and explained a weird rule about improvements vs. repairs that I never understood before. Definitely worth it for complicated questions that online searches can't clearly answer.

0 coins

Caesar Grant

•

ok i have to admit i was wrong about the claimyr thing. i was so annoyed with my tax situation that i tried it. i've been fighting with the irs for months about a weird rule with crypto taxes - they were saying i needed to report each transaction separately but my exchange only gave me summary info. got nowhere with letters and emails. used that claimyr service, got through to someone in like 20 min, and they actually explained that there's a special form i can file to summarize crypto transactions in certain situations. the agent walked me through exactly what i needed to document. never would have figured that out on my own. sometimes just talking to a human makes all the difference with these bizarre tax rules.

0 coins

Pedro Sawyer

•

One of the weirdest tax rules I've come across is that if you have forgiven debt (like cancelled credit card debt or a foreclosure), the IRS treats that as INCOME you have to pay taxes on! So if you're already struggling financially and manage to get $10k in debt forgiven, surprise! You now potentially owe taxes on that $10k as if someone handed you cash. There are some exceptions like bankruptcy, but it's still a crazy rule that kicks people when they're down.

0 coins

Wait that's insane! So if I negotiate with my credit card company to settle a debt for less than I owe, I'd have to pay taxes on the amount they forgive? How would that even work with the timing? Like would I get a tax form the next year?

0 coins

Pedro Sawyer

•

Exactly! The credit card company would send you a 1099-C form (Cancellation of Debt) in January/February of the following year showing the amount of debt that was forgiven, and you'd have to report that as income on your tax return. For example, if you settled a $15,000 debt for $10,000, you'd receive a 1099-C showing $5,000 of cancelled debt, which would be added to your taxable income. The timing can be especially brutal because by the time you get the form, you might have already spent that "savings" or not budgeted for the additional tax liability.

0 coins

Mae Bennett

•

Has anyone heard about the weird rule where you pay different tax rates depending on if you get paid bi-weekly vs monthly? My friend says she gets more money overall with bi-weekly but i think shes confused about how tax brackets work...

0 coins

Demi Hall

•

Your friend is partially right but for the wrong reason. The withholding calculations can be different between bi-weekly and monthly payrolls, but your actual tax liability at the end of the year is exactly the same regardless of pay frequency. What happens is that bi-weekly receives 26 paychecks per year (which equals 52 weeks), while monthly receives 12. The withholding tables sometimes calculate slightly differently, which can result in slightly different amounts being withheld. But when you file your actual tax return, it's based on your total annual income, not how frequently you received it.

0 coins

IRS AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,087 users helped today