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Just to add another data point - we're seeing the same thing. Our refund dropped from $5,200 last year to about $1,600 this year. I checked our paystubs and sure enough, we've been getting about $300 more per month combined in our paychecks because less tax is being withheld. So actually we're getting MORE money overall, it's just spread out over the year instead of in one lump sum. I know some people use tax refunds as a forced savings method, but financially it makes more sense to get the money in your paychecks and put some in savings yourself. If you really want a bigger refund next year, just fill out a new W4 and put an additional amount to withhold on line 4c. That's what we're doing - having an extra $100 per paycheck withheld so we'll get a bigger refund next year.
Thanks for this explanation! I went back and checked our paystubs from this year vs last year and you're totally right. We're getting about $280 more per month in our paychecks compared to last year. That adds up to around $3,360 for the year, which almost exactly accounts for the difference in our refund. I guess I never noticed the slightly larger paychecks since it wasn't a huge difference per pay period, but it definitely adds up over the year! This makes me feel so much better. We might still adjust our W4 to get a slightly bigger refund next year since we like having that forced savings, but at least now I understand what happened.
Just a heads up - double check that your filing status is correct in your tax software. You mentioned your W2 has HOH (Head of Household) but you're filing married jointly. Those are two different filing statuses and you can't be both. HOH is for unmarried people who pay more than half the cost of keeping up a home for a qualifying person. If you're married and living with your spouse, you can't file as HOH. Make sure your tax software has you filing as "Married Filing Jointly" and not accidentally as "Head of Household" - that could definitely affect your refund amount!
I think they mean their W4 withholding at work is set to HOH, not their actual filing status. That's actually a common mistake - people have their withholding set wrong all year and then file with their correct status.
Don't forget about the "kiddie tax" that might apply! If your dependent has unearned income (interest, dividends, etc.) over $2,400, some of it might be taxed at YOUR tax rate instead of theirs. This usually doesn't affect students with just job income, but something to be aware of if they have investment accounts.
My daughter just has her job income from working at the campus bookstore, no investments or anything fancy. But I'm curious - what counts as "unearned income" exactly? And does scholarship money factor into any of this tax stuff? She got a partial scholarship last year.
Unearned income includes things like interest, dividends, capital gains, rents, royalties, etc. - basically money received from sources other than working a job. It's passive income rather than earned income. As for scholarships, they're generally tax-free if used for qualified education expenses like tuition, fees, books, and required supplies. However, any scholarship money used for room and board, or other non-qualified expenses would be considered taxable income. But this would be considered earned income, not unearned income, so it wouldn't trigger the kiddie tax rules. It would just be added to her regular taxable income.
Anyone know if the rules are different if my kid is going to school in a different state than where we live? My son goes to college out of state but I still claim him as a dependent.
The federal rules for standard deduction for dependents are the same regardless of what state they're in. But for state taxes, it gets complicated. Some states may require your son to file a return as a part-year resident or non-resident of that state if he earned money there. Most states follow similar dependent rules as federal but there are exceptions. Check both your home state and his college state rules.
Just to add another perspective - I received MIDP payments for 2 years after a relocation. In my case, the payments were included on my W-2, but they were also separately detailed on my final paystub of the year in a special earnings category. You might want to check your last December paystub to see if it's broken out there. That helped me verify everything was reported correctly.
Thanks for mentioning this! I just checked my December paystub and you're right - it does show up there in a separate category called "Relo-MIDP" with the tax withholding. That's really helpful to know it should be on my W-2. Did you need to do anything special when filing your taxes, or did the tax software handle it automatically since it was part of your W-2 income?
Since it was included in Box 1 of my W-2, I didn't need to do anything special when filing. The tax software handled it automatically as regular income. The only thing I made sure to do was keep documentation from my relocation company that explained the payment, just in case I ever got audited. The one thing to double-check is that the withholding amounts match up with what was actually withheld from your MIDP payment. Sometimes companies withhold at a higher supplemental rate for these kinds of payments.
When I received MIDP, my company actually grossed up the payment to cover the taxes, so I received the full $4,000 intended amount. You might want to check with your relocation coordinator to see if your payment was supposed to be grossed up too. Some companies do this for relocation benefits to make the employee whole.
That's a good point about grossing up! My company did that for some relocation expenses but not others. It's definitely worth asking about.
Quick question - has anyone tried H&R Block for self-employment taxes? I know they used to have a free file option, but their website is super confusing about what's actually included now.
H&R Block absolutely does NOT offer free filing for self-employment anymore. I tried them this season and ended up with a $134 bill at the end - more expensive than TaxAct! They don't tell you about the fees until you've already spent hours entering all your information. Total waste of time.
One thing to remember - if your self-employment income is relatively small (under $1,000 profit for the year), you might not even need to file Schedule C or pay self-employment tax. Worth checking if that applies to your situation before paying for premium tax software.
Nia Thompson
Make sure you document EVERYTHING if you claim your siblings! When I claimed my disabled brother last year, I got audited because he doesn't live with me. I had to provide: - Receipts for all financial support - Medical bills I paid - Record of his income/benefits - Statement from our parent confirming my support - Estimates of total household costs where he lives It was a huge headache, but I won the audit because I had good records. Start keeping detailed documentation NOW if you plan to claim them.
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Mateo Rodriguez
ā¢What kind of documentation did you need from your parent? My mom isn't great with paperwork and I'm worried about this exact situation.
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Nia Thompson
ā¢I had my mom write a simple statement saying: "I confirm that [my name] provided over 50% of [brother's name]'s total support for the tax year, including [list specific things I paid for]." She signed and dated it, and I had it notarized just to be safe, though that might be overkill. The key was having her acknowledge that my contributions exceeded half of his total support. You could help your mom draft something similar - it doesn't need to be complicated. The IRS just wants confirmation from the person they live with that you're the primary financial supporter.
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Aisha Hussain
Anyone know if the support test includes the fair rental value of the home they live in? My dad lets my disabled sister live with him rent-free, but I pay for literally everything else (medical, food, clothing, transportation, etc).
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GalacticGladiator
ā¢Yes, the value of lodging counts as support! The IRS considers the fair rental value of the home as part of the total support calculation. So if your dad provides free housing valued at say $1,000/month ($12,000/year), that counts as support from him.
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Aisha Hussain
ā¢Thanks for explaining that. Looks like I might not meet the 50% threshold then. The rental market where they live is really expensive, so even though I'm paying probably $15k annually for my sister's other expenses, the housing value might push my dad's contribution higher than mine.
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