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I'm a bookkeeper (not a tax pro) but have seen both sides of this question with different clients. Here's what I've observed: Tax relief companies: - Often charge $3k-5k upfront - Many use aggressive sales tactics - Some deliver great results, others do very little - They basically do the same paperwork you could do yourself Tax attorneys: - More expensive ($400/hr adds up fast) - Usually more thorough and knowledgeable - Better for complex situations or if you're facing criminal charges - Often overkill for straightforward payment plans For $68k in debt on $52k income, you might actually do fine with an Enrolled Agent who specializes in tax resolution. They usually charge $150-200/hr or flat fees for specific services like OIC applications.
Have you seen clients successfully do this themselves without professional help? I'm in a similar situation but really can't afford to pay someone thousands right now. Is the DIY route completely impossible?
I have seen clients successfully handle smaller tax debts themselves, especially for straightforward installment agreements. The IRS website actually has decent self-help resources for setting up payment plans. For your situation though, I'd be cautious about going completely DIY. The OIC program has a very specific formula and about 60% of applications get rejected, often for simple errors or missing documentation. If you do try the DIY route, get the IRS Form 656 Booklet which walks through the whole process. Also consider getting just 1-2 hours of consultation with a professional to review your application before submission - this middle ground approach can save you money while avoiding major mistakes.
Does anyone know if these tax relief companies can actually deliver on claims to settle "for pennies on the dollar"? I've seen those commercials for years and always wondered if they're just scamming desperate people or if they have some secret formula for getting the IRS to accept low settlements.
Those "pennies on the dollar" claims are very misleading. What they're referring to is the IRS Offer in Compromise (OIC) program, which is completely legitimate but has very specific qualifying criteria. The reality is that only a small percentage of taxpayers actually qualify for significant reductions. The IRS uses a formula based on your income, expenses, assets, and ability to pay. If you have significant income or assets relative to your tax debt, you likely won't qualify for a dramatic reduction.
Has anyone tried using the "Get Transcript by Mail" option on the IRS website? I know it's not immediate, but it doesn't require any credit verification. I used it last year and got my transcript in about 6 days which wasn't terrible.
I used this option back in January and it took almost 3 weeks! I think it depends on the time of year and how busy the IRS is. Right now with tax season ramping up, I wouldn't count on it being quick.
Another option nobody mentioned is pulling your credit report. I've had situations where income was misreported under my SSN, and reviewing all accounts on my credit report helped me identify where the error might have come from. Sometimes it's a company you forgot about or an account that was opened fraudulently.
Would a credit report really show income though? I thought it just showed credit accounts and payment history, not actual income reporting. Did you find specific income information there?
You're right that the credit report itself doesn't show income directly. What I meant was that reviewing your credit report can remind you of accounts you may have forgotten about (old bank accounts, investments, etc.) that might have generated income. For example, in my case, I saw an old investment account on my credit report that I had forgotten about, which led me to contact that company, and sure enough, they had issued a 1099 for a small amount of dividend income. The credit report was just a starting point to jog my memory about possible income sources I might have overlooked.
If you filed with tax software like TurboTax or H&R Block, sometimes they offer audit support or tax notice assistance. Check if your filing package included this - they might help you figure out the discrepancy without additional cost.
Former film payroll person here! Let me clarify something: in the film industry, whether you're classified as an employee (W-2) or independent contractor (1099) often depends on the production company's payroll practices and sometimes the state you're working in. Most legitimate productions run extras through payroll as W-2 employees because they control when you work, what you wear, where you stand, etc. - all factors that make you an employee under IRS guidelines. Some smaller productions might incorrectly classify extras as independent contractors (1099) to avoid paying the employer portion of taxes, but that's often misclassification. If you received a W-2, be thankful! The production did it correctly, and you don't have to pay self-employment tax. Your friend who files as self-employed likely receives 1099s instead of W-2s.
Wait, does that mean if I'm getting 1099s as an extra I'm being misclassified? I've been paying self-employment taxes for years but the production companies totally control everything about my work!
You might indeed be misclassified. The IRS uses a control test - if the company controls what you do and how you do it, you should generally be classified as an employee (W-2), not an independent contractor (1099). For film extras, since the production tells you exactly when to show up, what to wear, where to stand, when to move, etc., you typically meet the definition of an employee. Some production companies misclassify extras as independent contractors to save on payroll taxes, but this isn't usually correct under IRS guidelines. If you believe you're misclassified, you can file Form SS-8 with the IRS for a determination, though be aware this might create tension with companies that hire you.
One thing nobody mentioned - if you got a W-2 and had federal taxes withheld, you should DEFINITELY file even if you're not required to! Otherwise, you're just giving the government free money that should be returned to you as a refund. Check box 2 on your W-2 form. If there's any amount there, that's money that was taken from your paycheck for federal taxes. With only $8800 in income for the year and being a student, you'll likely get most or all of that back. I made a similar mistake my first year working in film and lost out on a $700 refund because I waited too long to file. Don't make my mistake!
Wow thank you!!! I just checked my W-2 and there's almost $500 in box 2! I had no idea I might get that back. I'm definitely filing now!
You can still claim refunds for up to 3 years after the filing deadline! If your mistake was within the last 3 years, you can still file for those years and get your money.
Maggie Martinez
Don't forget about professional liability insurance! Absolutely essential when starting your practice. Even if you're careful, mistakes happen, and a single lawsuit could bankrupt a new business. I use Camico but there are several good options. Also, join your state's society of CPAs or tax preparer association even if you're not a CPA. The networking and continuing education are invaluable, plus many offer discounts on software and services for members.
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Selena Bautista
ā¢Thanks for mentioning insurance! What's a ballpark figure I should expect to pay for decent coverage as a solo preparer? And are there specific coverage amounts you'd recommend?
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Maggie Martinez
ā¢For a new solo preparer with no prior claims, expect to pay between $500-800 annually for a basic policy with $100,000 in coverage. I'd recommend starting with at least $250,000 in coverage if you can swing it, especially if you'll be doing anything beyond basic W-2 returns. As your practice grows and you take on more complex returns like business filings, you'll want to increase coverage to $500,000 or more. Many policies also include coverage for representation costs if a client is audited, which clients really appreciate. Some insurers offer monthly payment options which helps with cash flow when you're just starting out.
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Alejandro Castro
Any thoughts on the best way to set fees when first starting out? I'm torn between hourly and flat-rate pricing.
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Monique Byrd
ā¢Flat rate all the way. Clients hate surprises with billing. I have a menu of services with set prices based on form complexity. Like $350 for basic returns, $500 with Schedule C, etc. Then add-ons for extra schedules. Much easier to market and clients know exactly what they're getting.
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