


Ask the community...
I've had my 16yo and 14yo working in our family restaurant for years. Both are on payroll, have proper work permits (check your state laws!), and actual job duties. My 16yo works the register and my 14yo does dishes and prep work. Three things that have kept us audit-free: 1. We pay them reasonable wages for our area for teens doing those jobs 2. We have actual timecards and schedules 3. The money goes into custodial accounts we set up at our bank Don't get greedy with it - the IRS definitely looks at whether you're paying your kid $50/hr for sweeping floors. But paying normal wages for actual work is completely legitimate.
Do you withhold taxes from their paychecks or is there some exemption since they probably don't make enough to owe taxes anyway?
We do withhold federal income tax as normal, but they both typically get it all refunded when they file their returns since they earn under the standard deduction. For FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare), there's an exemption for children under 18 working in a parent's business if it's a sole proprietorship or a partnership owned only by the parents. Since our restaurant is set up that way, we don't have to withhold FICA taxes from their wages, which saves everyone money. If your business is incorporated, different rules apply and you would need to withhold FICA.
Does anyone know if this strategy works for a 9-year-old? My daughter helps me stuff envelopes and organize materials for my home-based mail order business. I've been paying her $20 each time she helps but never thought about making it official.
There's no minimum age requirement in federal law for working in a parent's business (though state laws may vary). But what matters is whether the work and pay are reasonable. A 9-year-old stuffing envelopes occasionally should be paid what you'd pay any kid that age for that task - not an adult wage.
You might want to look into whether you qualify as a "trader" vs an "investor" for tax purposes. If you're doing enough volume and frequency of trades, you might be able to elect the "mark-to-market" accounting method which treats all your securities as if sold on the last day of the tax year. This gives you ordinary gain/loss treatment rather than capital gains and eliminates the wash sale rule concerns. But there are strict requirements and you need to make the election in advance. Worth talking to a tax professional about it.
How many trades do you need to do to qualify as a "trader" for the IRS? I do about 20-30 trades a month. Is that enough?
There's no specific number that automatically qualifies you. The IRS looks at several factors: trading frequency (daily is best), holding periods (shorter is better), time devoted to trading (more is better), and whether you depend on the income. Your 20-30 trades monthly might be enough if they're your primary activity and you hold positions briefly. The courts have generally supported trader status for those doing hundreds of trades annually, spending several hours daily on trading, and holding positions for very short periods. But it's a facts-and-circumstances test, not just a number threshold. I'd recommend consulting a tax pro who specializes in trader taxation since the benefits can be substantial but the requirements are strict.
Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting a lot of trades? My broker sent me a consolidated 1099 with like 200+ trades and I'm wondering if I need to enter each one manually or if there's a way to import them.
Most brokers can export your trades in a format TurboTax can import. Look for a .TXF file export option on your broker's tax documents page. If they don't offer that, you might be able to download your transactions as a CSV and convert it using a third-party tool.
Just a tip - if you're using TurboTax, there's no reason to be "adamant" about not filing Schedule D. The software automatically generates and fills it in for you. You just enter the info from your 1099-B and click next. You're not actually filling out or printing extra forms yourself. It's literally just clicking a few buttons.
Yeah I realized that after I posted. Turns out my frustration was more about the principle of the thing than the actual work involved. Do you know if the free version of TurboTax handles Schedule D or would I need to upgrade?
The free version of TurboTax doesn't support Schedule D - capital gains/losses require upgrading to at least the Deluxe version which is around $60-70 depending on current promotions. If you're concerned about paying that much for reporting a $0.31 loss, you might want to look into the IRS Free File options or other free tax software like FreeTaxUSA which handles capital gains for free. Credit Karma Tax (now Cash App Taxes) is another free option that includes Schedule D.
The first time I got a 1099-B I freaked out about all the little transactions too. But here's a workaround that might help - some brokerages allow you to summarize multiple transactions of the same stock on Schedule D rather than listing each tiny transaction separately. Check if your brokerage provides a summary 1099-B with the "consolidated" option!
Something nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're using the correct filing status when you claim certain credits. The Earned Income Credit has special rules if you're "married filing separately" versus head of household. Same with some education credits. This tripped me up badly when I was in your situation.
Thank you for bringing this up! Are there specific credits I should be looking out for that work differently with HoH versus MFS? I do have childcare expenses that I was hoping to claim.
The Child and Dependent Care Credit is a big one - you generally can't claim it when filing as Married Filing Separately, but you CAN claim it as Head of Household. This could be worth thousands if you're paying for childcare. Same with the Earned Income Tax Credit - you're not eligible with MFS status, but you are with HoH. The Education Credits (American Opportunity and Lifetime Learning) are also not available with MFS but are with HoH. These differences are exactly why it's so important for you to qualify for HoH status if possible. The tax benefits compared to MFS are substantial, especially as a single parent with childcare costs.
Has anyone used TurboTax for filing with spousal abandonment? Their questions are confusing me about the "considered unmarried" test.
I used TurboTax last year in the same situation. There's a series of questions about your living situation that you need to answer. When it asks if you're married, say yes. Then when it asks if you lived apart from your spouse for the last 6 months of the year, say yes. Keep answering their questions about supporting your child and household, and it should eventually determine you're eligible for HoH. If you get stuck, use their live help feature - I had to do that to get through some confusing parts.
Jamal Brown
Make sure you're tracking your mileage correctly going forward! For it to be valid for tax purposes, you need: - Start and end odometer readings - Date of each trip - Business purpose - Destination I use MileIQ app which does most of this automatically. Worth every penny for the peace of mind.
0 coins
Mei Zhang
ā¢Are there any free alternatives to MileIQ? I'm trying to keep expenses down while starting my business.
0 coins
Jamal Brown
ā¢Stride is a good free alternative that many of my clients use. It doesn't have all the premium features of MileIQ, but it covers the basics the IRS requires. Some people just use Google Maps to calculate distances and keep a simple spreadsheet with dates and purposes. That works too as long as you're consistent and record everything promptly.
0 coins
Liam McConnell
Important question: when you refile, make sure you check if you qualify for the Qualified Business Income Deduction (Section 199A). As a 1099 contractor making under $170,050 (single) or $340,100 (married), you likely qualify for an additional 20% deduction on your net income AFTER expenses like mileage. This can save you thousands more!
0 coins
Amara Oluwaseyi
ā¢Wait what?? I've been filing self-employed for 3 years and never heard of this. Is this something new?
0 coins
CosmicCaptain
ā¢My accountant mentioned this last year. It's not new, been around since 2018 but many self-employed people miss it. Definitely worth looking into if you're filing a 1099.
0 coins