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Non-Filer Submission Rejected Due to Duplicate Submission Error - What Now?

So I'm in this weird tax limbo situation right now and could really use some advice. Back in 2022, I filed my tax return normally, but then got this letter from the IRS saying I needed to verify my identity to prove I wasn't committing fraud or something. The problem is, I can't do the phone verification because I'm not the primary account holder on our family phone plan (it's under my dad's name). So according to the IRS representative I spoke with, my only option is to wait for some physical verification form that's supposed to arrive in the mail within 8 weeks. I got impatient waiting and tried to just submit a non-filer submission instead, thinking maybe that would help speed things up. But it immediately got rejected with a "Duplicate Submission" error message. Has anyone dealt with this identity verification nightmare before? Is there anything I can do to speed this up or am I just stuck waiting for this form to show up in the mail? Really frustrated with the whole situation!

Something else to consider - check if you qualify for the IRS Taxpayer Advocate Service. They're designed to help when normal IRS channels aren't working. If your situation is causing financial hardship (like you're waiting on a significant refund you need for living expenses), they might be able to help speed things up. The catch is that they're also overwhelmed with cases, but they can sometimes cut through the bureaucracy faster than waiting for the normal process. You can find your local office here: https://www.taxpayeradvocate.irs.gov/contact-us/

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I tried the Taxpayer Advocate last year and they told me they couldn't help with identity verification cases unless there was a genuine financial hardship. Has this policy changed recently?

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The policy hasn't officially changed, but in practice, it varies by office and how you present your case. Identity verification cases can qualify if you can demonstrate actual financial hardship (like facing eviction, utility shutoff, inability to pay for medications, etc.) caused by not receiving your refund. What's also changed is that some Taxpayer Advocate offices now have specialized staff just for handling identity verification backlogs. Worth calling your local office to check their current procedures, as they've been updating their approach to handle the massive backlog of these cases.

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Has anyone tried going to their local IRS office in person for this? I'm wondering if bringing all my documents to an actual human might be faster than all this waiting around for forms and phone calls.

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I did this last month and it worked perfectly! Called the appointment line (844-545-5640), got an appointment for the following week at my local office. Brought my ID, social security card, the IRS letter, and copies of my tax returns. The agent verified my identity on the spot and released my return for processing. Refund showed up 3 weeks later!

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Small business tax returns and personal returns - Should we file jointly or separately?

So my husband has two small businesses he started last year, and I'm trying to figure out how all this works with our taxes. We've always filed joint returns since we got married, but now I'm wondering if I need to do separate returns for his businesses or if they should be combined with our personal taxes. The businesses are both set up as S-corporations if that matters. I've been handling all our tax stuff for like 15+ years and I'm pretty comfortable with the personal returns, but these business ones are new territory. Is this something I need to hire an accountant for, or can I tackle it myself given my experience with our personal taxes? I've looked at the forms and they seem complicated but not impossible. I'm mostly worried about making mistakes that could get us in trouble with the IRS. Any advice from people who've dealt with this before?

Just want to add my two cents as someone who's been filing S-corp returns for my business for 7 years. The first year is definitely the hardest! There's a learning curve, but once you understand the basic concepts, it gets much easier. If you decide to do it yourself, make sure you understand: 1) How to allocate between reasonable salary and distributions 2) Keeping business and personal expenses separate 3) Quarterly estimated tax payments 4) Payroll tax requirements The software I use (TaxAct) actually has decent guidance for S-corps and is way cheaper than hiring an accountant. I'd say give it a try yourself first, and if you get stuck, you can always hire help for the complicated parts.

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Thanks for the advice! Did you use any specific resources to learn about the S-corp requirements when you first started? And approximately how much extra time did it add to your tax preparation compared to just doing personal returns?

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When I first started, I found the IRS's "Tax Information For S Corporations" publication really helpful, along with some YouTube videos from CPAs. The Small Business Administration website also has good resources. As for time commitment, my first year doing S-corp returns took about an extra 8-10 hours beyond my normal personal returns. There was a lot of learning and double-checking. Now I can knock it out in about 3-4 extra hours each year. The key is keeping good records throughout the year - that makes tax time so much easier! If your husband's businesses have clean bookkeeping, you're already halfway there.

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Be careful about DIY with S-corps! I tried doing mine myself last year and missed the requirement to pay myself a "reasonable salary" - took too much in distributions instead. Ended up with an IRS notice and had to pay additional self-employment taxes plus penalties. S-corps have specific rules that personal returns don't. Honestly, the money I "saved" by not hiring an accountant ended up costing me three times as much in the end.

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I had the opposite experience! Paid an accountant $1,800 for S-corp returns that weren't very complicated. Learned how to do it myself the next year and saved a ton. Just needed to read up on the rules first.

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How to accurately estimate take home pay after taxes?

Hey there tax gurus! I just received a job offer that's giving me a $65,000 salary, but I'm trying to figure out what my actual take home pay will be after all the taxes and deductions. I live in Minnesota and this would be my first salaried position after working hourly jobs. The company offers health insurance and a 401k with 3% matching. I'm single with no dependents and I'm trying to make a realistic budget before accepting the offer. Can anyone help me estimate what my bi-weekly paycheck might look like? I've tried some online calculators but they all give me different numbers and I'm getting confused. Also, are there any tax deductions or credits I should be aware of that might help me maximize my take home pay? Thanks in advance for any help!

Don't forget about other potential deductions from your paycheck! HSA contributions, dental/vision insurance, life insurance, disability insurance, parking/transit benefits, etc. All of these can impact your take home pay. I'd recommend asking HR for a sample pay stub breakdown before you start so you can see exactly what deductions they'll take. Some companies also have employee assistance programs with financial advisors who can help with this exact question.

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That's a great idea about asking for a sample pay stub! I didn't even think of that. Are HSA contributions similar to 401k in how they affect taxes? And do you know if parking deductions are pre-tax or post-tax?

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HSA contributions are even better than 401k contributions tax-wise. They're pre-tax when made through payroll deduction, they grow tax-free, AND withdrawals are tax-free when used for qualified medical expenses. It's the only triple tax advantage account available. Definitely max it out if you have a High Deductible Health Plan. Parking and transit benefits are typically pre-tax up to the IRS limit (around $280/month for 2025), but it depends on whether your employer has set up a qualified transportation benefit program. Some smaller employers might just provide a taxable parking stipend instead. Definitely worth asking HR about the specifics of their program.

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Just a heads up that the online calculators can be wildly inaccurate sometimes. When I started my job last year, the calculators were off by almost $250 per paycheck because they didn't account for some MN-specific tax situations. The safest bet is to take your gross bi-weekly pay (65000/26 = $2500), then subtract: - Federal tax (roughly 12-15% effective) - State tax (about 6.8%) - FICA (7.65%) - Insurance premiums - 401k contributions Then add a little cushion for any surprises. Better to underestimate your take home than overestimate and end up short!

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This is good advice but your math is a bit off. 65000/26 is actually $2,500 (not $2,400). Also, federal tax will probably be lower than 15% effective rate on $65k, especially with 401k contributions reducing taxable income.

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Is claiming Schedule C losses risky with a high income (37% bracket)?

I started a side hustle as a content creator in 2023, making short-form comedy videos through a single-member LLC. I invested in a computer, phone, and audio equipment hoping to generate ad revenue, but honestly, the views just never materialized. Zero income from this venture. I'm planning to deduct these expenses on my Schedule C, including a dedicated room in my apartment that I use exclusively for filming (home office deduction). I also spent about $1,100 on flights and meals while shooting content in a few different cities. Here's my concern - my day job pays really well (I'm in the 37% tax bracket), and I'm worried this failed business might trigger an audit. If the IRS decides my expenses weren't legitimate business deductions, what exactly am I looking at penalty-wise? From what I've read online, I'd have to pay back the deductions plus a 20% accuracy penalty and like 3-4% interest annually? Is that right? I shut down the LLC in 2024 after accepting it just wasn't going to make money. Just trying to understand my risks here.

Let me add something that nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you're filling out Part IV of Schedule C where you answer questions about material participation and whether you started or acquired this business during the tax year. Many people skip this section, but it's crucial for establishing that this was a legitimate business activity, especially when you're showing losses. Also, consider adding a statement to your return that explains your business plan and why you reasonably anticipated making a profit eventually. This proactive documentation can help if questions come up later.

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Would you recommend attaching some kind of profit projection or business plan to my return? I did have one when I started, showing how I planned to monetize once I hit certain view thresholds. Just wasn't sure if that would help or draw more attention to the loss.

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I wouldn't attach the full business plan to your return as that might actually draw unnecessary attention. Instead, keep it with your tax records in case of an audit. What can be helpful is a brief statement with your return explaining the nature of your business, that you operated with an intent to profit, and mentioning that you have documentation of your business plan and efforts. This shows you're aware of the requirements without overwhelming the initial filing with extra documents.

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Has anyone mentioned the potential impact on your Social Security earnings? If you're offsetting your W2 income with Schedule C losses, it could reduce your Social Security wages and potentially lower your future benefits. Something to consider when claiming significant business losses against high W2 income.

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This is actually a common misconception. Schedule C losses don't reduce your Social Security wages from W2 employment. Your W2 income is still fully reported for Social Security purposes regardless of Schedule C losses. The losses might reduce your overall income tax, but your Social Security contributions and credits remain based on your W2 earnings.

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Need help with UK self assessment payment on account - can I cancel?

I've got my second payment on account coming up in July 2022 for my UK self assessment tax return, but I'm pretty sure I won't need to pay it. My income for 2021-2022 ended up being way lower than expected and falls below all the tax thresholds. I'm wondering if there's a way to cancel this second payment since it seems unnecessary? I had to make the first payment because my previous year's income was higher, but this year has been really different financially. Do I just not pay it and wait for HMRC to sort it out, or is there a formal process to cancel the payment before the due date? I'd rather not have money sitting with HMRC that I could use for other things right now. Anyone dealt with this before?

Quick tip from someone who does this regularly - if your income is genuinely below all thresholds, you might not even need to file a self assessment next year. You can call HMRC and ask to be taken out of self assessment if you no longer meet the criteria. Common reasons people stay in self assessment unnecessarily: - They had a one-off income spike - They started self-employment but then stopped - They previously had multiple income sources but now just have PAYE Just something to consider if your situation has changed permanently.

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That's really helpful, thank you! My situation was exactly that - I had a side business that generated decent income in 2020-2021, but I closed it down last year. Would I just call HMRC after filing my 2021-2022 return to ask to be removed from self assessment?

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Yes, that's right! Complete your 2021-2022 return first (which will show your income is below thresholds), then call HMRC and explain that you've closed your business and no longer need to be in the self assessment system. They'll ask a few questions to confirm you don't meet any of the criteria, and if they agree, they'll remove you from the system. Make sure you keep the confirmation they send you about this. Most people find it's a huge relief not having to worry about the annual self assessment deadline anymore!

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Just to add to what others have said - be careful with the timing. If you reduce your payment on account and later your actual income turns out to be higher than you estimated, HMRC will charge interest on the underpayment. Not trying to scare you - if your income is genuinely below thresholds then you're fine! But I made a mistake once where I forgot about some dividend income that pushed me over the threshold, and ended up paying interest.

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Yeah this happened to me too. The interest rates aren't massive but it's still annoying. Better to be slightly conservative with your estimate if you're not 100% sure.

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