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Zadie Patel

S-Corp vs LLC for new social work contractor - tax benefits comparison

Hey fellow tax warriors, I need some advice on setting up my mental health counseling business structure. I've only ever been a W-2 employee so I'm kinda lost in all this business ownership stuff - feels like I'm playing pretend adult here! I'm starting as an independent contractor in Minneapolis, formalizing my practice this month. My income should be somewhere between $75,000 and $120,000 annually depending on client load and how much I hustle (and I plan to hustle HARD since I need to build up savings and get this thing off the ground). I'm stuck deciding between staying as an LLC or going for S-Corp status. Since we're already in August, one accountant told me to just operate as an LLC for now until January when my income stabilizes, then possibly elect S-Corp status then... hope I'm explaining that right. My questions: LLC vs. S-Corp: What are the pros and cons for each given my income range and field? Are there specific tax benefits I should know about? Right now I'm planning to just use basic QuickBooks to track everything and handle quarterly tax payments myself online - which honestly makes me nervous, but so does paying an accountant $400 every quarter. Business Banking: Any recommendations for good business bank accounts? Looking for low fees, decent service, and features that work well for a small operation. My business is pretty straightforward - just a few expenses like software subscriptions (Microsoft, Dropbox, electronic signature service, therapy notes software, office supplies, etc.) I am planning to meet with an accountant for personalized advice, but wanted to hear from people who've been down this road before. Any guidance would be super appreciated! Thanks!

The S-Corp vs LLC question really depends on your specific situation, but I can give you some general guidance. With an LLC, you'll pay self-employment tax (15.3%) on all your business profits. With an S-Corp, you can pay yourself a "reasonable salary" that's subject to employment taxes, then take additional money as distributions that aren't subject to those taxes. This can create significant savings. The catch? S-Corps require more administrative work - you'll need to run regular payroll, file additional tax forms, and possibly pay more for tax preparation. As a rule of thumb, the S-Corp election often makes sense when you're consistently earning over $80,000-$100,000 in profit. Starting as an LLC and switching to S-Corp later is a common approach. It gives you time to stabilize your business before taking on added complexity. Just be aware you'll need to file Form 2553 with the IRS within the first 75 days of the tax year if you want S-Corp status for that year. For business banking, look at local credit unions - they often have better terms than big banks. Online banks like Novo and Mercury are also popular with small businesses for their low fees and user-friendly interfaces.

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This is super helpful! Question though - if I go the S-Corp route, how do I figure out what counts as a "reasonable salary"? Is there like a percentage of total income that's standard? I've heard 60% but not sure if that's right. Also, with the S-Corp, do I need to have actual payroll software or something? That seems like a whole other layer of complexity I hadn't thought about.

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There's no fixed percentage for what's considered a "reasonable salary" - the IRS looks at factors like your qualifications, duties, time spent in the business, and what comparable professionals earn in your area. For mental health practitioners, I typically see anywhere from 50-70% of profits as salary, but it varies. Documentation is key - research salaries in your area for similar positions and save that information. Yes, with an S-Corp you'll need to run actual payroll - either through software like Gusto or QuickBooks Payroll, or through a payroll service. This includes withholding taxes, issuing yourself a W-2, and filing quarterly payroll tax returns. It's definitely an added layer of complexity and cost (usually $40-60/month for software), which is why many people start as an LLC until their income justifies the switch.

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Dylan Fisher

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - don't forget about state-specific issues! I'm in Minnesota too, and our state has some quirks regarding pass-through entities. If you elect S-Corp status federally, Minnesota automatically treats you as an S-Corporation for state tax purposes too. You'll need to file Form M8 annually (MN's S-Corp return). Also be aware that MN has a minimum fee for S-Corps that starts at $100 if your MN-sourced property, payroll, and sales total at least $1,020,000. For banking, I've had a good experience with Firefly Credit Union - much better rates than the big banks and they actually understand small businesses. Their business checking has no monthly fee if you maintain a $1,500 balance.

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Zadie Patel

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Thanks for the Minnesota-specific info! I hadn't even thought about state-level considerations. Is the Form M8 complicated? And that minimum fee threshold seems really high - I'm definitely not going to hit $1,020,000 anytime soon, so that's good to know! I'll definitely check out Firefly Credit Union - that $1,500 minimum balance seems totally manageable. Do they have good online banking too?

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Dylan Fisher

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The Form M8 isn't too bad - if you're already preparing federal Form 1120S for your S-Corp, the M8 uses much of the same information. Most tax software automatically generates it when you prepare your federal return. And yes, that minimum fee threshold is high - most small service businesses won't hit it for years, if ever. Firefly's online banking is surprisingly good for a local credit union. Their mobile app lets you deposit checks, transfer funds, pay bills, and even integrates with QuickBooks if you're using that. I've found their customer service to be much more responsive than when I was with Wells Fargo - you can actually talk to the same person consistently when you have questions.

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Edwards Hugo

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Just wanted to add my experience as a marriage counselor who went through this last year. S-Corps have benefits but also hidden costs that nobody warned me about: 1) You'll likely pay $800-1,500 more annually for tax preparation since S-Corp returns are more complex 2) You need workers comp insurance on yourself as an employee in some states 3) Quarterly payroll filings are required even if you're the only employee 4) Some retirement plans are more complicated with S-Corps I went with an LLC taxed as an S-Corp and saved about $4,300 in self-employment taxes my first year, but probably spent half that on additional administrative costs. Still worth it, but the savings weren't as dramatic as I expected.

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Gianna Scott

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Can you share what tax filing software you used for your S-Corp? I'm trying to decide if I can handle this myself or if I need to budget for an accountant.

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