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LilMama23

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Another thing to consider is that you'll need to file Schedule SE for the self-employment tax on your 1099 income. That's an additional 15.3% on top of your regular income tax (though you do get to deduct half of that). Make sure your extra withholding is covering both the income tax AND self-employment tax!

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Thanks for the reminder about Schedule SE! I actually did factor that in when I increased my withholding. I calculated roughly what I'd owe for both income tax and self-employment tax on the $18,500 and that's how I came up with the $320 per paycheck increase. Do you know if there's an easy way to check if I'm on track to meet the safe harbor requirement? I'm still a bit nervous about whether I've withheld enough.

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LilMama23

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You can use the IRS Withholding Estimator on their website. It will let you input both your W2 income/withholding and your 1099 income, then tell you if you're on track. Another simple approach is to look at your last paystub from 2024 and add up the federal withholding. Then add what you expect to have withheld for the rest of 2025 based on your current withholding rate. If that total is at least $16,300 (your tax from last year), you'll meet the safe harbor requirement.

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Dmitri Volkov

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This whole quarterly estimated payment system is such a pain. I've been doing contract work for years and I just massively overwithhold from my W2 job so I don't have to deal with quarterly payments. My accountant says it's like giving the government an interest-free loan but honestly the peace of mind is worth it lol. Better than stressing about penalties.

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But aren't you basically losing money by giving the government an interest-free loan? You could be investing that money throughout the year instead. I set calendar reminders for estimated payments and it's not that bad.

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Roth IRA Over-Contribution for 2019 - Need Help Fixing Excess Amount

In 2019, my earned income eligible for retirement contributions was only $5,500 (according to box 1 of my W2). However, I made a $6,600 contribution to my Roth IRA for tax year 2019 in early 2020 when I opened the account. I think this means I over-contributed by about $1,100 that I wasn't supposed to. For 2020, I maxed out my Roth IRA with $6,000 (which I had enough income to qualify for). But in 2021, I only put in around $4,000 to my Roth (even though I could have contributed the full $6k). From what I've read, I need to pay a 6% penalty for each year the excess amount stayed in my account. So I think I owe this penalty for 2019 and 2020, but not for 2021 or later years (since I under-contributed in 2021 by more than my excess amount from before). If I understand correctly, the penalty applies to the $1,100 excess but not to any earnings on that amount for both years. I believe I need to submit Form 5329 with Part IV filled out for both 2019 and 2020 to fix this. I'm not sure if I can just send these forms by themselves or if I also need to file amended tax returns for 2019 and 2020. In case it matters, I filed my 2019 return on paper but e-filed for 2020 and after. Am I understanding what I need to do correctly? Have I missed anything? I haven't gotten any notices from the IRS about this yet - I just noticed the problem recently and want to fix it since I believe there's no statute of limitations on this issue.

Micah Trail

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My accountant told me something different about this situation. She said that if you over-contribute to a Roth IRA, you could also recharacterize the excess amount to a Traditional IRA instead of paying the penalty, as long as you're eligible to contribute to a Traditional IRA. Has anyone done this? Not sure if this would still be an option for contributions from 2019 though.

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Nia Watson

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Your accountant is partly right, but timing is crucial. Recharacterization was an option before the tax filing deadline (including extensions) for the year of the contribution. For 2019 contributions, that deadline would have been around July-October 2020 (extended due to COVID). Since we're in 2025 now, recharacterization is no longer an option for 2019 contributions. The OP will need to go with the Form 5329 and penalty approach. But your suggestion is definitely good advice for anyone who catches their over-contribution more quickly!

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When I had a similar Roth over-contribution problem, I was told by an IRS representative that I should also consider the earnings on the excess amount. The 6% penalty applies to the excess contribution itself, but what about the earnings that excess generated? If you eventually remove the excess, you'll need to calculate and withdraw those attributable earnings too (and pay income tax plus potentially a 10% early withdrawal penalty on those earnings). Have you figured out how much your $1,100 excess has earned since 2019? That might be relevant depending on how you ultimately resolve this.

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Sayid Hassan

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. I haven't calculated the exact earnings on the excess portion, but given market performance since 2019, it's probably significant. If I'm using the "absorption" method by under-contributing in 2021, do I still need to worry about the earnings issue? Or does that only apply if I'm physically removing the excess contribution?

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If you're using the "absorption" method by under-contributing in a later year, you don't need to worry about withdrawing the earnings. The earnings stay in your Roth IRA and continue growing tax-free, which is actually a nice benefit! The earnings only become an issue if you physically withdraw the excess contribution. In that case, you'd need to calculate and withdraw the proportional earnings as well. Since you've already effectively "fixed" the excess through your 2021 under-contribution, you just need to file Form 5329 for 2019 and 2020 to pay the penalty for those years. The earnings can stay put in your account.

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Myles Regis

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Just wanted to share what I learned from my accountant about the "free inventory" situation. If you get inventory for free (like samples, gifts, etc.) but pay shipping, only the amount you actually paid (the shipping) becomes your cost basis. So for the original poster, that $20.45 is deductible as part of COGS. Also, there's a practical aspect to consider - if you're a small seller, the IRS generally doesn't care much whether you classify something as supplies vs. inventory as long as you're consistent and not trying to manipulate your income. Both methods ultimately lead to the same net income over time.

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Brian Downey

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Is there a specific dollar amount where the IRS starts caring more about inventory vs supplies? I sell about $15k of products annually and have been lumping everything under supplies.

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Myles Regis

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There's no specific dollar threshold where the IRS suddenly cares more about inventory vs. supplies classification. What matters more is your consistency and whether your method clearly reflects income. If you're selling $15k annually, you're still considered a relatively small business. However, if a significant portion of your business involves purchasing items for resale that you hold for any period of time, you should probably use inventory accounting. If you're concerned, consider talking to a tax professional about whether you should change your approach going forward.

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Jacinda Yu

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Don't forget about Form 1125-A if you're reporting inventory! If you have inventory at the beginning or end of the tax year, the IRS generally wants you to file this form with your Schedule C. It's where you calculate your Cost of Goods Sold in detail.

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Hazel Garcia

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I've never heard of Form 1125-A before. Is this something new for 2025? I've always just used the COGS section on Schedule C itself.

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Aside from the identity theft possibility, I want to point out something important about S Corps that might be relevant here. There's a common misconception about how S Corp extensions interact with personal returns. When you file an extension for your S Corp (Form 7004), it ONLY extends the filing deadline for the business return (Form 1120-S), not your personal return. However, the S Corp income flows through to your personal return via Schedule K-1. If you haven't received your K-1 yet because the business return isn't done, you still need to file a separate extension for your personal return (Form 4868). Is it possible your accountant filed your personal extension but didn't clearly communicate this? That wouldn't explain the "already filed" error, but it's worth checking if there was miscommunication about what was actually filed.

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That's actually a good point I hadn't considered. I assumed my accountant had only filed the S Corp extension, but maybe there was confusion and they filed something for my personal taxes too? Though wouldn't that have shown up when I checked my IRS account online?

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An extension request for your personal return typically wouldn't appear in your online account history the same way a filed return would. The IRS online account usually shows filed returns, not extension requests. Your accountant might have e-filed your extension without your knowledge thinking they were being helpful. However, that still doesn't explain the specific error code you received, which indicates an actual return was filed, not just an extension. If your accountant had filed an extension for you, you should still be able to e-file your actual return later. The fact that you got an "already filed" rejection strongly suggests either identity theft or a significant error, such as your accountant accidentally filing a return instead of an extension.

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Jayden Hill

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Random question but did you have unemployment in 2024? There was a massive unemployment identity theft ring discovered recently. Criminals were filing fake unemployment claims using stolen identities, then filing tax returns to claim refunds on the taxes withheld from those benefits. If someone filed unemployment in your name, they might have also filed a tax return to collect tax withheld from those fake benefits. This happened to my brother and the first sign was exactly what you're experiencing - rejection with that same error code.

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LordCommander

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This is a hugely important point. Unemployment fraud and tax identity theft are closely linked now. You should check with your state unemployment office to see if there are any claims filed under your SSN that you didn't submit. If there are, you'll need to report that fraud to the state as well as to the IRS.

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Emma Wilson

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Actually, there is a legitimate way for employees to adjust withholding temporarily, but it's not by claiming "exempt" for a week. They need to submit a new W-4 with additional deductions calculated to reduce withholding to the desired amount, then submit another updated W-4 afterward to return to normal withholding. The key is that they need to still have enough withholding throughout the year to meet their tax obligations. The IRS has a withholding calculator on their website that can help determine the right number to use.

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Yara Sayegh

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That's helpful to know! So he could adjust his withholdings temporarily through a properly calculated W-4, but not completely eliminate them for a week unless he actually qualifies for exempt status? This makes more sense as a legitimate approach.

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Emma Wilson

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Exactly! He can adjust withholding by submitting a new W-4 with carefully calculated numbers, but not eliminate it for just one week unless he truly qualifies for exempt status (which is rare). The proper approach would be to use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator tool to figure out exactly how to complete the W-4 to get close to the amount he wants withheld. Then after that pay period, he should submit another W-4 to return to his normal withholding amount to avoid owing a large sum at tax time.

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Malik Thomas

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I know employees think this is a good idea for quick cash, but as someone who did this, DON'T LET THEM DO IT!! I claimed exempt for 2 months when I had major medical bills. Felt great getting the extra money then, but at tax time I owed $4,200 I didn't have and got hit with penalties too. Had to set up a payment plan and it was a mess for years.

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NeonNebula

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This is so true. I work at a tax prep office and see this mistake ALL THE TIME. People think they're just getting their money early, but forget the IRS wants penalties for underpayment. Plus, many don't save the extra money so they can't pay when the bill comes due.

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