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Lauren Wood

How many tax withholding allowances should my wife and I claim on our W-4s?

So I've been claiming 1 allowance on my W-4 form all year at work, but I honestly have no clue what my wife puts down on hers. What I do know is that for like the last 3 tax seasons, we've ended up OWING money to the IRS instead of getting a refund. We don't have any children or dependents. I'm not looking for some massive refund check (I get that just means I'm letting the government hold onto too much of my money interest-free lol), but I definitely prefer getting something back rather than scrambling to pay what we owe every April. What's the right number of allowances for a married couple with no kids? Anyone else deal with this frustrating situation?

Ellie Lopez

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The best approach is to use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on the IRS website rather than thinking about it in terms of "allowances." The W-4 form was redesigned in 2020 and no longer uses the allowance system. Now you tell your employer exactly how much extra to withhold. Based on what you're saying, it sounds like you're both probably selecting "Married" on your W-4s. This often causes underwithholding when both spouses work because the withholding tables assume only one spouse works. Try these options: either both select "Married, but withhold at higher Single rate" on your W-4s, or use the two-earner worksheet on the W-4 to calculate an additional withholding amount.

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Lauren Wood

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Wait, they got rid of allowances? Shows how long it's been since I've updated my W-4! Should we both fill out new forms then? And is "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" basically the same as me claiming 1 allowance like I used to?

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Ellie Lopez

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Yes, you should both complete new W-4 forms. The "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" option is somewhat similar to the old system of claiming fewer allowances, but it's more accurate for two-income households. This option essentially tells your employer to withhold taxes at the higher single rate while still recognizing your married status. If you want to be more precise, use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator online. Enter your expected income, deductions, and other tax situations, and it will give you specific dollar amounts to put on your new W-4. This is especially helpful for two-income households where the difference between your salaries is significant.

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Paige Cantoni

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Does this actually work for calculating the right withholding for next year? I'm in a similar situation and my tax guy just says "pay quarterly estimates" which is a pain to remember.

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Liam Cortez

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Another option is to just have additional withholding taken from each paycheck. My husband and I both put $50 extra withholding per check on line 4(c) of our W-4s, and we went from owing $1800 to getting a small refund. It's simple and you don't have to overthink it.

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Lauren Wood

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That's really helpful actually. Is that something I can just write in on the form? Like a specific dollar amount to take out extra? How did you figure out that $50 was the right amount?

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Liam Cortez

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Yes, on the current W-4 form, line 4(c) is specifically for additional withholding. You just write in the extra amount you want withheld from each paycheck. We calculated our $50 amount by looking at how much we owed last year ($1800) and divided it by the number of paychecks we each get annually (we both get paid bi-weekly, so 26 paychecks each). That gave us about $35 per paycheck, but we rounded up to $50 to be safe. It's not a perfect science, but it worked well for us. You could do the same calculation based on what you've owed in previous years.

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Savannah Vin

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Has anyone tried the "Multiple Jobs Worksheet" on page 3 of the W-4? I found it really helpful for our situation (both working, no kids).

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Mason Stone

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I tried it but found it confusing tbh. Ended up just doing what someone suggested above - using the "married but withhold at higher rate" option and adding a little extra. Way easier and had the same result.

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