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How to correctly fill out W4 as single with no dependents for maximum withholding?

I think I might have messed up my withholding for last year. I always thought claiming 0 allowances on my W4 as a single person with no dependents would mean the most money gets withheld, but I just finished my taxes and somehow I still owe $527 to the feds while breaking even on state taxes. I'm confused because I thought claiming 0 was supposed to result in more withholding, not less. Should I change my W4 to claim 1 instead? Or would it be better to just talk to a tax professional since I'm also planning to open some investment accounts this year? I don't want to end up owing again next tax season.

The W4 form actually changed significantly in 2020, so the old "0 allowances" system isn't used anymore. The current W4 doesn't use allowances at all - instead it has you specify additional withholding amounts or indicate multiple jobs/working spouse. For a single person with one job and no dependents, the simplest approach is to just check the "Single or Married filing separately" box in Step 1, and then sign at the bottom (skipping steps 2-4). This should withhold at the standard single rate. If you're still owing taxes with that setup, you can add an extra amount to be withheld from each paycheck in Step 4(c). Since you're planning to open investment accounts, you might generate additional income that won't have automatic withholding. In that case, I'd recommend either increasing your W4 withholding to cover the expected investment income or making quarterly estimated tax payments.

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Aisha Khan

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So the old system with claiming 0, 1, 2 etc is completely gone now? I'm still using an old W4 from when I started my job in 2018 and haven't updated it. Does my employer need me to fill out the new form?

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Yes, the allowances system (0, 1, 2, etc.) was completely eliminated with the 2020 W4 redesign. Your employer is supposed to use your most recent W4 on file, so they're likely still using your 2018 form with the old allowances system. I would definitely recommend filling out a new W4 with your employer. The redesigned form is much more straightforward for simple tax situations. Your employer should have these forms available, or you can download the current form from the IRS website. Just complete the new form, focusing on the extra withholding amount in Step 4(c) if you want more taken out to cover your investment income.

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Ethan Taylor

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Yuki Ito

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Does this actually work with investment income? I have some stocks and ETFs that generate dividends, and I never know how to account for that on my W4.

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Carmen Lopez

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I'm skeptical about online tax tools. How accurate is it compared to just talking to an accountant? Also, can it handle more complex situations like RSUs and stock options?

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Ethan Taylor

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Yes, it absolutely works with investment income. You can input your expected dividends, capital gains, and other investment income, and it will calculate the appropriate additional withholding amount to put on line 4(c) of your W4 to cover those taxes. Regarding accuracy, I was skeptical too initially, but it uses the actual IRS withholding algorithms and tax brackets. The tool gives you specific numbers to put on your W4 rather than general advice. And yes, it handles complex situations including RSUs, stock options, and even cryptocurrency gains - you just enter the estimated amounts and it does the calculations for you.

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Carmen Lopez

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Andre Dupont

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Wait, how does this actually work? Do they have some special line to the IRS or something? I've been trying to get through for like 3 weeks about my withholding.

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This sounds like BS honestly. Nobody can get through to the IRS these days. If it was this easy, everyone would be doing it. I've been calling daily for my withholding issue and nothing.

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They don't have a special line - they use an automated system that continuously dials the IRS for you until it gets through, then it calls you when it has an agent on the line. It's basically doing the redial work for you so you don't have to waste hours with your phone to your ear. Totally get the skepticism, I felt the same way. But it actually does work. The system calls you when an agent is on the line, so you literally pick up the phone and an IRS agent is already there. It saved me from having to sit on hold or continuously redial for hours. I specifically asked about W4 withholding for investment income and got clear guidance from the agent.

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Jamal Wilson

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Another option is to use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on their website. It's free and walks you through inputting all your income sources including investments. At the end it gives you specific instructions for filling out your W4. I'm single with some dividend income too and it worked well for me last year.

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Mei Lin

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Does the IRS estimator account for capital gains from selling stocks too? Or just regular income?

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Jamal Wilson

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The IRS Withholding Estimator does account for capital gains from selling stocks. When you go through the process, it specifically asks about different types of income including wages, self-employment, and investment income. There's a section where you can enter expected capital gains along with other investment income like dividends and interest. Just make sure you have estimates of how much you expect to realize in capital gains for the year. Keep in mind that if you have a large one-time stock sale, you might want to adjust your withholding for just that period rather than the whole year.

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I was in the exact same boat last year! Claimed 0 thinking I'd get a refund and ended up owing $600. My issue was that I had a second part-time job that wasn't withholding enough. The new W4 form actually has a multiple jobs worksheet that helps with this.

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GalacticGuru

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Did you check the multiple jobs box or just use the worksheet to calculate the extra withholding? My HR department said checking that box sometimes takes out too much.

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Emily Parker

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I had a similar issue when I first started working with investments! One thing that helped me was keeping track of my quarterly estimated taxes throughout the year. Since you're planning to open investment accounts, you might want to consider making quarterly payments for any investment income rather than trying to cover everything through W4 withholding. This gives you more control and prevents big surprises at tax time. For your current W4, I'd recommend using the IRS withholding calculator that others mentioned, but also consider talking to a tax professional since you're expanding into investments. They can help you set up a system for tracking and paying taxes on investment income as you go, which becomes really important once your portfolio grows. Also, keep in mind that investment income timing can be unpredictable - dividends, capital gains distributions, and realized gains from selling don't always happen evenly throughout the year, so quarterly estimated payments often work better than trying to spread it all through payroll withholding.

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This is really helpful advice about quarterly payments! I'm just starting to think about investing and hadn't considered that investment income might be lumpy throughout the year. How do you estimate what to pay quarterly when you don't know exactly what your gains/dividends will be? Do you just make conservative estimates and then adjust with your annual tax return?

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