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Something else to consider - when you transfer your crypto to Robinhood, that's not a taxable event (it's just moving your property). But the moment you sell on Robinhood, that's when the taxable event occurs. Also, Robinhood's tax forms will show the proceeds from your sale but won't have your cost basis information for crypto transferred in. They'll likely issue a 1099-B with your proceeds, but the cost basis section might be blank or listed as "unknown," which puts the responsibility on you to report the correct cost basis on your tax return. If you significantly underreport your cost basis, that's where audit flags might come up since the IRS will see a mismatch between your reported gain and what they'd calculate based on zero cost basis.
Thanks, this is super helpful. So if I understand correctly - transferring to Robinhood isn't taxable, but I need to make sure I have documentation ready for my cost basis when I do sell, since Robinhood won't have that info? Would it make more sense to sell on my current exchanges where at least some transaction history exists, rather than moving to Robinhood first?
That's exactly right - transferring isn't taxable, but you need to document your cost basis for when you do sell, since Robinhood won't have that information. As for whether to sell on current exchanges versus transferring to Robinhood first, that's a great question. There's a potential advantage to selling on exchanges where you have some transaction history, as you could potentially have more documentation to support your reported cost basis. However, if those are foreign exchanges, they might not issue U.S. tax forms, which could create other complications. If your current exchanges can provide transaction history reports that show your purchases, that documentation could be valuable regardless of where you ultimately sell. The key is having a defensible way to calculate and document your gains.
Don't overlook the fact that if you've been trading crypto while a permanent resident but before becoming a citizen, you still have US tax liability on those gains. The US taxes residents on worldwide income. Also, be aware that transferring between cryptocurrencies (like trading Bitcoin for Ethereum) counts as a taxable event too - each swap is technically a sale of one asset and purchase of another. This catches a lot of people by surprise.
Is that true even for transactions that happened before they became a permanent resident? I thought you only had to worry about US taxes once you actually became a resident.
Don't forget about state taxes too! Depending on which state you live in, you might need to report that Belgian rental income on your state return as well. Some states have different rules for foreign income than federal. I learned this the hard way with my rental property in Mexico. I reported everything correctly on my federal return but didn't realize California wanted their cut too. Got a nasty surprise assessment letter the following year.
Oh no, I hadn't even thought about state taxes! We're in New York - do you know if they follow the federal rules for foreign income or have their own system? This is getting more complicated by the minute.
New York generally follows federal rules for income inclusion, so if you're reporting the rental income on your federal Schedule E, you'll need to include it on your NY return too. The one benefit is that NY does allow credits for foreign taxes paid, similar to the federal system. Some states like Nevada or Florida might be more advantageous for people with significant foreign income since they don't have state income tax. But for now, plan on reporting that Belgian rental income on both federal and NY returns.
Has anyone mentioned Form 8833? If you're planning to take a position based on the US-Belgium tax treaty, you might need to file this form to disclose your treaty-based position. I had to do this with my rental properties in France.
Don't forget that different types of inherited IRAs have different RMD rules! If you inherited a Roth IRA, the rules are different than for a traditional IRA. With a Roth, if the original owner died after 2019 and you're not an eligible designated beneficiary (spouse, minor child, disabled, etc.), you still have the 10-year rule, but there are no annual RMDs during those 10 years. Also, if you miss an RMD, the penalty used to be 50% of the amount you didn't take, but it's been reduced to 25% (and can be further reduced to 10% if you correct the mistake promptly).
This is so helpful! My uncle's IRA is traditional, not Roth, so sounds like I do need those annual RMDs. Is there any way to convert it to a Roth now to avoid the annual RMDs and just deal with the 10-year rule?
You can convert an inherited traditional IRA to an inherited Roth IRA, but be careful - you'll pay income tax on the entire converted amount in the year you do the conversion. This could potentially push you into a much higher tax bracket. If you decide to convert, you'd still be subject to the 10-year rule, but you'd eliminate the annual RMD requirements. Many people find it's most tax-efficient to do partial conversions over several years rather than converting the entire amount at once. I'd strongly recommend working with a tax professional to determine if and how much you should convert each year based on your overall tax situation.
Has anyone used TurboTax to handle reporting inherited IRA distributions? I'm trying to figure out if their software can handle this complicated situation with continuing RMDs plus the 10-year rule.
I used TurboTax last year for this exact situation. It handles inherited IRA distributions fine, but you need to make sure you indicate it's from an inherited IRA when you enter the 1099-R information. There should be a specific question about whether this is an inherited IRA. The tricky part is that TurboTax doesn't calculate what your RMD should be - you need to know that number from your financial institution. As long as you distribute at least the RMD amount each year, TurboTax will report it correctly on your tax return.
Just to add my experience: I made about $800 last year from online tutoring and didn't realize I needed to pay taxes on it until this thread. I called the IRS and they said since it's under $1000 I just include it when I file my regular tax return by April 15th. You'll need to fill out a Schedule C form for your business income/expenses and Schedule SE for the self-employment tax portion. And definitely keep track of ANY expenses related to earning that money - supplies, software subscriptions, portion of internet if you worked from home, etc. Those all reduce your taxable income!
Do you know if we can just use regular tax software for this? Or do we need something special for self-employment stuff?
Regular tax software will work fine for this amount of self-employment income. All the major ones (TurboTax, H&R Block, TaxAct, etc.) can handle Schedule C and Schedule SE. Some free versions have limitations though, so you might need to pay for a slightly upgraded version that handles self-employment. The software will walk you through the specific questions about your business income and expenses. Just make sure to select the option that indicates you have self-employment or business income when you start the process.
I think everyone's forgetting something important here - at $650 in self-employment income, after taking the standard deduction, you probably won't owe any regular income tax at all! You'll just owe the self-employment tax portion which is around 15.3% of your net profit (after expenses).
Amina Toure
Another important thing no one mentioned - check the dates at the top of each 4549 form! The more recent one is always the one you should respond to. The IRS sometimes sends revised forms when they get new information or correct errors in their system. Also, make sure to keep copies of everything you send them, especially proof of your payment. I'd recommend sending the signed form via certified mail so you have proof they received it. The IRS has been known to lose paperwork.
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Dmitry Petrov
ā¢Thanks for this advice! I checked and the second form is dated 10 days after the first one. I'll definitely send it certified mail with tracking. Should I also include a copy of my payment confirmation with the signed form?
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Amina Toure
ā¢Yes, absolutely include a copy of your payment confirmation with the signed form. This creates a clear paper trail showing you've both agreed to the adjustment and paid the amount due. I'd also recommend writing your Social Security number and tax year on every page you send them. This helps ensure your documents stay together if they get separated during processing.
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Oliver Weber
Is no one going to mention that it's weird the IRS first said they owed YOU money and then suddenly you owe THEM money? That's a pretty big swing! I'd want to understand exactly what changed between the two forms. Look carefully at both forms and compare the adjustments. There should be specific line items that changed. If anything looks fishy, you might want to talk to a tax professional before signing anything. Once you sign that 4549, you're waiving your right to challenge those adjustments later.
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FireflyDreams
ā¢This happens more than you'd think. The IRS exam department sometimes issues preliminary findings before they have all information. Usually it's because they received additional third-party reporting after the first assessment. Likely something like a 1099 or K-1 that wasn't originally matched to the return.
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