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Dont forget you can offset up to $3000 of ordinary income with capital losses too if u have more losses than gains in a year. And any unused losses can carry forward to future tax years. Really helpful if u have a bad year trading!
Another option is to use Form 8275 (Disclosure Statement) to explain the situation. I had a similar issue and my accountant included this form explaining that I only had employer coverage and the Premium Tax Credit flag was in error. We e-filed with this form attached and it went through without a problem.
Does Form 8275 work even when the e-file system is giving the specific rejection code about the Premium Tax Credit? I thought those automated rejections couldn't be overridden with explanation forms.
Yes, it can work depending on the specific rejection code. The Form 8275 creates a "soft override" for certain validation checks. It won't work for all rejection codes, but for Premium Tax Credit mismatches where there's a discrepancy between what the IRS thinks and your actual situation, it can be effective. The key is properly documenting your explanation with supporting details. In my case, we included my employer's EIN, coverage dates, and policy numbers to prove I had continuous employer coverage and never received PTC. If your tax software doesn't allow attaching Form 8275 to e-file, then mailing is still your best option.
I just want to add that if you DO end up paper filing, make sure to send it certified mail with return receipt! The IRS is notorious for "losing" paper returns, and having proof of delivery can save you from penalties if they claim they never received it.
100% this! My brother's return got "lost" last year and he had to deal with failure-to-file notices. Since he didn't have proof of mailing, it was a huge hassle. Certified mail is absolutely worth the extra $5.
Just wanted to add one thing no one has mentioned yet - if your total self-employment income is under $433 for 2024, you don't have to pay self-employment tax at all! So depending on how much you made from these trials total, you might not have to worry about that 15.3% tax everyone's talking about. Also, there's a simplified version of Schedule C called Schedule C-EZ that you might be able to use if your business expenses are under $5,000 and you meet a few other criteria. Makes the whole process much less painful.
Thanks for this info! Just to clarify, my total from all the trial work was about $540 for the year. Does that mean I definitely have to pay the self-employment tax? And is Schedule C-EZ still available? I thought I read somewhere that the IRS discontinued it a few years ago.
Since your total is over $400, you would need to pay self-employment tax on that $540. It's 15.3% which comes out to about $82.62 in additional tax. You're right about Schedule C-EZ - I apologize for the confusion. The IRS did discontinue it after 2019. You'll need to use the regular Schedule C, but with such a straightforward situation and minimal income, it shouldn't be too complicated. Just list each payment as income and any legitimate expenses you had related to earning that income.
has anyone here actually gotten audited over small amounts like this? I made like $300 doing some test articles for a blog and honestly wasnt planning to report it at all. they didnt send me any tax forms and paid me through venmo. feels like more trouble than its worth tbh
Technically you're supposed to report all income regardless of the amount or whether you received a tax form. But realistically speaking, the IRS isn't likely to audit someone over $300. They typically focus on much larger discrepancies. That said, if you're ever audited for other reasons, they could discover this unreported income. Your call, but personally I report everything just to avoid potential headaches later.
Have you checked your IRS transcript? That would tell you if someone already filed on your behalf or if an extension is already in place. You can access it online through the IRS website if you create an account. The transcripts show all activity on your tax account including extensions filed, returns processed, and payments received. It might save you a lot of time troubleshooting since you'll be able to see exactly what's in the IRS system under your SSN.
Creating an IRS account is a nightmare though. I tried to do this last year and they wanted me to verify my identity by entering information from a mortgage, car loan, or credit card - none of which I had at the time! Ended up having to mail in a form and wait 10 days for a verification code.
That's a good point about the verification process. It can be difficult for some people to create an account. If you can't access your transcript online, calling the IRS transcript request line at 800-908-9946 is another option. They can mail your transcript to your address on record. The most important thing is confirming whether an extension or return has actually been filed under your SSN before worrying about potential identity theft or duplicate payments. This information can help determine your next steps.
Just a quick question - how much did you attempt to pay with your extension filing? Remember an extension only gives you more time to FILE, not more time to PAY. If you owed taxes for 2024, those were still due by April 18th regardless of an extension.
I tried to pay about $2,700 which was what TurboTax estimated I would owe based on the information I entered so far. I understand extensions only give more time to file, not pay - that's why I attempted to submit the payment with my extension request. I'm just worried about where that money went since the extension was rejected!
This is such an important point that people miss! I've seen so many friends get hit with penalties because they thought filing an extension meant they didn't have to pay until October. The interest and penalties on unpaid tax can add up fast - I think it's something like 0.5% per month plus interest.
Salim Nasir
I don't think people realize that this interest rate decrease is actually following the Fed's rate cuts. The IRS doesn't just randomly decide to change their interest rates - federal short-term rates drive these changes. If you're wondering about previous rates, they've been: - Q4 2024: 8% - Q3 2024: 8% - Q2 2024: 8% - Q1 2024: 7% So we're basically returning to the rate from earlier this year. The IRS tends to lag behind Fed changes a bit because of their quarterly adjustment schedule.
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Hazel Garcia
ā¢Interesting! Do you know how this compares to standard credit card or loan interest rates? Is the IRS charging more or less than what a typical bank would charge for late payments?
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Salim Nasir
ā¢The IRS interest rate of 7% is significantly lower than most credit card interest rates, which typically range from 18-25% or even higher. It's also generally lower than personal loan rates, which average around 11-15% for most borrowers. This is actually why some financial advisors suggest that if you're facing both credit card debt and tax debt, it might make more sense to pay off the higher-interest credit cards first while setting up a payment plan with the IRS. However, keep in mind that while IRS interest rates are lower, they can also impose additional penalties beyond just interest, which can make the effective rate higher in some cases.
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Laila Fury
Does anyone know if this impacts the penalty rates too? Or is it just the interest portion that's changing? I got hit with both penalties AND interest last year when I couldn't pay my full tax bill, and I'm trying to figure out what I'll owe if I'm in the same situation this year.
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Geoff Richards
ā¢The failure-to-pay penalty is separate from interest and stays at 0.5% per month (up to 25% of the unpaid tax). This rate doesn't change quarterly like the interest rate does. So while your interest will be lower with this change, the penalty percentage stays the same if you can't pay on time. One tip though: If you set up an installment agreement with the IRS, that penalty rate gets cut in half to 0.25% per month instead of 0.5%. Definitely worth doing if you know you can't pay in full by the deadline.
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Laila Fury
ā¢Thanks for explaining! So basically I'll still get hit with the same penalties, but at least the interest portion will be slightly lower. I'll definitely look into setting up an installment agreement this time to get that penalty reduction. Every bit helps when you're trying to dig out of a tax hole.
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