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Are both loans actually mortgages? Or is one a home equity line of credit? Also, is the employer loan being reported as some kind of benefit on your W-2? Sometimes employer loans come with benefits that might be taxable which could offset the interest deduction.
Both are definitely mortgages - we used them simultaneously to purchase the home (one conventional loan and one through the employer's first-time homebuyer assistance program). The employer loan doesn't show up anywhere on the W-2, it's a completely separate arrangement with its own 1098. I'm wondering if it's because the employer loan has a much lower interest rate (2.5% compared to 3.25% on the main mortgage), and that's somehow affecting the overall calculation? Could a lower rate on the second mortgage somehow reduce the total benefit?
That's interesting. Even with the lower rate, more interest should still be more deduction. The fact that it's an employer loan makes me think there might be some fringe benefit taxation going on behind the scenes. Check if the interest rate on the employer loan is below market rate. If it is (which 2.5% would likely qualify as), the IRS can consider the difference between your rate and the market rate as taxable income - essentially treating the below-market rate as a benefit from your employer. This "imputed income" might be what's reducing your refund when you add the second 1098.
Has anyone checked if the AMT (Alternative Minimum Tax) is getting triggered? I had something similar happen where adding more deductions actually increased my AMT liability which offset the benefit. Worth checking that section of your return.
This is a really good point. AMT can definitely cause this kind of counterintuitive result. The software should tell you if AMT is being applied though - there's usually an AMT worksheet or form that appears.
Don't forget that when you take the Standard Deduction, you CANNOT also itemize deductions on the same return. It's either/or, not both. I learned this after trying to claim both my $12,400 standard deduction AND my mortgage interest and charitable donations. Tax software flagged it as an error. You have to pick whichever gives you the bigger tax break. For most people, the Standard Deduction is higher than their itemized deductions would be, which is why like 90% of taxpayers take the Standard Deduction now.
There are some exceptions to this though! Even if you take the standard deduction, you can still deduct things like student loan interest, IRA contributions, self-employment taxes, and health insurance premiums if you're self-employed. These are called "above-the-line" deductions and they work differently.
Absolutely right! Those "above-the-line" deductions reduce your Adjusted Gross Income (AGI) directly and you can claim them regardless of whether you take the Standard Deduction or itemize. This is why tax terminology is so confusing for beginners - there are "deductions" that aren't affected by the Standard Deduction vs. itemizing choice. Thanks for pointing that out!
Honestly I didn't understand the standard deduction until I actually did my taxes for the first time. TaxAct software asked if I wanted to "itemize" and showed me what items would qualify. My donations were like $600, and I had some small work expenses maybe $1000, and the software straight up told me "these don't add up to more than the standard deduction so you should take the standard deduction." Made the decision super easy.
Have you considered using a tax software specifically designed for multi-state returns? I use ProSeries and while it's more expensive than TurboTax, it handles the state allocation process much better. It automatically generates all the required state returns based on your K1 income allocation, and you can choose which ones to e-file or print for mailing. The downside is it has a steeper learning curve than TurboTax, but if you're comfortable with tax concepts it might save you money compared to a CPA. I think they charge around $40-50 per state return, which is still cheaper than professional preparation.
Does ProSeries handle the Canadian portion as well? I have K1 income from Canada and I'm completely lost on how to report it properly. My limited partner status includes operations in British Columbia and Ontario.
ProSeries does handle foreign income reporting including Canadian-source income. It will create the necessary Form 1116 (Foreign Tax Credit) based on your K1 information. For the Canadian portion specifically, it asks for the province where the income was earned and automatically applies the correct tax treaty provisions. There is a slight learning curve with how to enter the information, but they have decent support that can walk you through it. I've found their knowledge base particularly helpful for foreign income situations. One thing to note is that you'll need to convert any Canadian dollar amounts to USD using the yearly average exchange rate published by the IRS.
Just make sure you're tracking your basis in the partnership correctly. This is something many new partners overlook. Your initial capital contribution establishes your starting basis, and then it increases with your share of partnership income and decreases with distributions and losses. If you get this wrong, you could end up with major tax headaches down the road, especially if you ever sell your partnership interest or if the partnership liquidates.
Can you explain the basis tracking a bit more? I became a partner in 2023 and received my first K1, but I don't understand how to track my basis. The partnership gave me a capital account on the K1, but is that the same as my basis?
One thing to consider with the closer connection exception - make sure you're calculating your days correctly for the substantial presence test! I messed this up initially. Remember it's: - All days present in current year - 1/3 of days present in prior year - 1/6 of days present in 2nd prior year I thought I was under the threshold but had miscounted my days from previous years. Double check your calculations!
Wait this is confusing me. So if I was in the US for 120 days this year, 90 days last year, and 60 days the year before, how do I calculate this? Is it 120 + (90/3) + (60/6)?
Yes, you've got it right! For your example it would be: 120 + (90/3) + (60/6) = 120 + 30 + 10 = 160 days. Since that's less than 183, you wouldn't meet the substantial presence test based on those numbers. But remember, if you're in the US at least 31 days in the current year AND you hit or exceed 183 days with this calculation, then you meet the substantial presence test and would be considered a US resident for tax purposes unless you qualify for exceptions like the closer connection.
Honestly, the closer connection exception saved me a ton of headache. I'm from Australia and was working on a project in the US that kept getting extended. Filed Form 8840 last year and had no issues. One tip - document EVERYTHING. I kept copies of foreign utility bills, property tax statements, club memberships, and even church donations back home. Never needed to provide them, but having that documentation ready gave me peace of mind.
StarSurfer
Just FYI for everyone - I found out through this whole process that there are specific codes on your tax transcript that show if/when you received stimulus payments. If you create an online account at IRS.gov, you can view your tax transcripts and look for code 766 with a description that references "TAX RELIEF CREDIT." That'll show you exactly what you received and when. Makes it much easier to determine if you're missing a payment before going through the whole amended return process. Wish I'd known this sooner!
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Mei Zhang
ā¢Thank you so much for this! I didn't know we could check our transcripts online. Is it hard to set up an account? And will it show all three stimulus payments or just the $1400 one?
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StarSurfer
ā¢Setting up an IRS account isn't too difficult, but you need to verify your identity with some specific documentation. You'll need a photo ID, social security number, tax filing status, mailing address from your last return, and some financial account that can be verified (like credit card, mortgage, loan, etc.). The transcript will show all stimulus payments you received, not just the $1400 one. Look for the 766 code with dates in 2020 and 2021. The first payment was $1200, second was $600, and third was $1400. If you're missing any, that's what you would claim on an amended return for the appropriate tax year.
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Ava Martinez
Has anybody here had their amended return actually processed yet after claiming the missing stimulus? I filed mine back in February and the "Where's My Amended Return" tool still just says it's processing. Getting worried since I'm counting on that money.
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Miguel Castro
ā¢I filed my amended return in January for the missing stimulus and just got my refund last week, so about 5 months total. The online status never updated though! It still says "processing" even though I got my check already. The IRS systems are super behind on updates.
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