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StarStrider

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One important thing nobody has mentioned - check if the financing service you used actually did a "cashless exercise" rather than a straight purchase with tax withholding. With cashless exercises, they sometimes immediately sell a portion of your shares to cover costs, which creates different tax implications than just exercising and holding.

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Ravi Kapoor

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That's an interesting point - I'll have to double check the paperwork. The financing company definitely framed it as a way to exercise without selling any shares (that was their main selling point), but now I'm wondering if there were any partial sales happening behind the scenes to cover taxes.

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StarStrider

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Definitely check the paperwork carefully. Some financing companies structure the transaction as a loan against the shares rather than a true cashless exercise, which preserves the tax treatment of a regular exercise-and-hold strategy. The key documents to look for would be any statements showing exactly how many shares you received versus how many you purchased, and confirmation of exactly what taxes were paid at the time. If they paid estimated taxes rather than withholding, that might explain part of the confusion too.

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Zara Malik

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This sounds like a perfect case for an 83(b) election which would have avoided the AMT issue completely. Did the financing service discuss this option with you?

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Luca Marino

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83(b) elections are for restricted stock, not ISOs. They don't apply in this situation at all. ISOs are governed by different tax rules.

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Just a heads up - if your friend is claimed as a dependent on someone else's return, they won't be eligible for the recovery rebate credit. Make sure to check if anyone (like their parents) claimed them before filing.

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Thank you for pointing that out! I should have mentioned - he's definitely not a dependent on anyone else's return. He's 38 and has been living on savings during 2020. I was helping him with paperwork stuff and realized he never got his stimulus payments. I appreciate the advice from everyone!

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Glad to hear that! It's just something that trips up a lot of people. Also, make sure your friend keeps a copy of the return and proof of mailing (like a certified mail receipt). The IRS has been really backed up with paper returns, especially for past tax years, so it might take several months for them to process it.

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has anyone ever tried filing one of these zero income returns online instead of mailing it in? seems like it would process faster but not sure if the free file options work for prior years?

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Some tax software does let you file prior year returns, but most only allow electronic filing for the current tax year and maybe the year before. For 2020 returns filed in 2025, you'll probably have to mail it in. I used FreeTaxUSA to prepare a prior year return but had to print and mail it.

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Have you checked your tax transcripts online? Sometimes the error codes make a lot more sense when you can see what the IRS actually has on file compared to what you submitted. You can access them through the IRS website if you create an account. Look at the "Return Transcript" and "Wage and Income Transcript" to compare what was reported to the IRS vs what you filed. Usually the discrepancy jumps right out at you.

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I tried to access my transcripts online but got locked out after failing the identity verification. I think this might be related to the name change issue mentioned above. Is there another way to get these transcripts?

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You can request transcripts by mail using Form 4506-T if the online system isn't working for you. It takes about 10 business days to arrive, but it's better than nothing. Another option is to visit a local Taxpayer Assistance Center in person - just make sure to schedule an appointment first by calling their appointment line. Bring multiple forms of ID including your Social Security card and they can often help sort out identity verification issues on the spot and get you copies of your transcripts.

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Mia Green

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Whatever you do, don't ignore these errors! I made that mistake and ended up with penalties and interest. The IRS sent letters that I didn't understand so I put them aside, and it turned into a much bigger headache.

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Emma Bianchi

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Definitely agree. I worked for the IRS for 7 years and the biggest problems were always from people who ignored the initial notices. The good news is they're usually pretty reasonable about removing penalties if you can show you're actively trying to resolve the issues.

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Mia Green

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Thanks for confirming that. I wish I'd known sooner! I eventually had to hire a tax professional which cost me $450 to straighten everything out, plus I paid about $300 in penalties that probably could have been avoided.

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One option nobody mentioned yet - you could also try contacting the Social Security Administration for wage information. They sometimes have records that can help when a company has gone out of business. Their website has a "Request for Social Security Statement" that shows your earnings history. Another thing to consider is if you have your final pay stub from each year. Those often have year-to-date totals that would match your W-2 information. Might be worth checking old emails or bank statements to piece together the information.

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Rami Samuels

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I never thought about the Social Security angle! Do they provide the same level of detail as the IRS transcripts would? I don't have my final pay stubs unfortunately - learned my lesson about keeping those records now.

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The SSA records won't have the same level of detail as IRS transcripts. They typically just show your earnings that were reported for Social Security purposes, but not tax withholding amounts. IRS wage and income transcripts are definitely more comprehensive for tax filing purposes. If you've already accessed your IRS transcripts, those are your best resource. The Social Security option is more of a backup if you couldn't get the IRS information for some reason.

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Has anyone used FreeTaxUSA for prior year returns? I'm in the same boat for 2021 (company closed during pandemic) and wondering if their prior year filing is any good?

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Ali Anderson

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I used FreeTaxUSA for 2020 and 2021 returns that I filed late. It was actually really good for prior years - each year costs around $15 for federal (state is extra). The interface for entering W-2 info from transcripts was straightforward, and they have decent support if you get stuck.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's actually much cheaper than what I was seeing with TurboTax for prior years. I'll give FreeTaxUSA a try with my transcript information.

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Hired as 1099 contractor but treated like W2 employee, then fired with earned commissions withheld - what can I do?

I recently had a nightmare situation with a company that I'm hoping someone can advise me on. I was brought on as a 1099 contractor for a 100% commission sales position. I worked there for just over 2 weeks, putting in 9-10 hour days, 6 days per week because they required me to be physically present during those hours. During my short time there, I absolutely crushed it - generated more leads than anyone else on the team. The issue is the commission structure has a 3-4 week cycle before payouts happen. The DAY before my first commissions were about to pay out (roughly $4000 worth), my supervisor terminated me for being 12 minutes late. I had been late once before and he casually mentioned "let me know next time" - definitely didn't indicate it was a fireable offense. Here's where it gets shady - all my leads and pending commissions were transferred to my supervisor who fired me. So he personally benefits from terminating me right before payout. I've earned ZERO dollars despite working 55+ hours weekly and using my own vehicle/gas for company business. The bigger issue: I believe I was misclassified as 1099 when I was clearly treated as a W2 employee: - They required specific work hours - Provided a uniform I had to wear - Dictated exactly how I should perform my work - Terminated me for not following their specific procedures - Controlled all aspects of my work activities What are my options here? Can I use the misclassification as leverage to get my earned commissions? Should I file a complaint with the state labor board? Is legal action worth pursuing for just 2 weeks of work? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Make sure you keep track of ALL your expenses during those two weeks! Since they misclassified you, those are potential tax deductions if you end up having to file as self-employed. Track mileage (the IRS rate is like 65.5 cents per mile for 2023), cell phone usage for work, any supplies or materials you bought. Even if you get reclassified as an employee later, having this documentation is super important. I'd suggest creating a spreadsheet with dates, mileage, purpose of trips, and any receipts for work-related expenses. Take photos of receipts before they fade too!

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Thanks for the advice on tracking expenses. I've actually been keeping all my gas receipts and noting my mileage in my phone. It was about 480 miles total over the two weeks just for work-related driving. I also had to buy some office supplies they claimed would be provided but weren't. Do you know if I can still claim these deductions if I file the misclassification complaint? I'm worried about doing something wrong on my taxes while this is all getting sorted out.

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You can still document all these expenses while your misclassification complaint is pending. The best approach is to keep everything organized as if you will need to file Schedule C (self-employment), but hold off on actually filing until you get a determination on your status. If the IRS rules that you were misclassified as a contractor and should have been an employee, the company will be responsible for their portion of FICA taxes (the employer half of Social Security and Medicare taxes). In that case, you'd file as an employee with a W-2 that the company would be required to provide, and many of those business expenses wouldn't be deductible anymore under current tax law for W-2 employees.

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Ezra Beard

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Have you checked if your contract has an arbitration clause? A lot of these shady companies include language that forces you into arbitration instead of court. Read the fine print of anything you signed! Also check if there's a class action against them already - these companies usually do this to lots of people.

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Even with arbitration clauses, labor board complaints are still valid in most states! Companies can't contract around labor laws. Had this exact situation and still won my case through the state despite the arbitration clause.

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Ezra Beard

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You're absolutely right! I should have been clearer about that. Labor board complaints and tax filings with the IRS are still options regardless of arbitration clauses, as these are government agencies enforcing laws rather than private litigation. What I meant was that if the OP is considering a private lawsuit for things beyond just wage claims (like potential fraud or other civil claims), that's where arbitration clauses can create hurdles. But you're 100% correct that for the core issues of misclassification and wage theft, the state labor board is still a valid path forward regardless of what the contract says.

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