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I had almost the exact same situation last year. If your W-2 job is your main source of income, the simplest fix is to adjust your W-4. Here's what I did: On my W-4, line 4(c) "Extra withholding," I added $250 per paycheck. I calculated this based on my expected 1099 income for the year (about $20k) multiplied by my marginal tax rate (22%) plus the self-employment tax rate (15.3%), then divided by my number of pay periods. This has worked perfectly for me. My W-2 job now withholds enough to cover both income sources, and I don't have to worry about making separate quarterly payments. Just make sure you recalculate each year if your 1099 income changes.
This is super helpful, thank you! My 1099 income is around $25k annually, and I'm paid biweekly at my main job, so I think I'd need about $275 in extra withholding per check based on your formula. I'll definitely try this approach instead of dealing with quarterly payments.
That sounds about right for your situation. Just make sure you're accounting for any business deductions you'll claim on Schedule C, as those will reduce your taxable self-employment income. If you have significant business expenses, you might be able to reduce that extra withholding amount a bit. For example, if you have $5k in legitimate business expenses, you'd only need to calculate the extra withholding on $20k instead of the full $25k.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure TurboTax is actually calculating your self-employment tax correctly. I had an issue last year where it wasn't properly applying the self-employment tax to my 1099 income because I entered something in the wrong section. Double-check that your Schedule SE shows the correct amount of self-employment income and that the 15.3% tax is being calculated on that amount. You might want to manually calculate it (1099 income x 0.9235 x 0.153) to verify TurboTax is doing it right.
Another option to consider is switching your LLC tax election to S Corporation status if your business is earning enough profit. With an S Corp, you can pay yourself a reasonable salary (which requires W2s and payroll taxes) and then take additional distributions that aren't subject to self-employment tax. Saved me about $8,500 in self-employment taxes last year on my $125,000 in business profit.
That's interesting - I've heard about this S Corp approach before. At what income level does it generally make sense to make that switch? I'm currently making around $85,000 in profit annually.
The general rule of thumb I've heard from tax professionals is that S Corp election starts making sense financially when your net profit is consistently above $60,000-80,000. At your $85,000 profit level, it could definitely be worth exploring. The main consideration is balancing the additional costs (more complex tax filing, payroll processing, etc.) against the self-employment tax savings. You also need to pay yourself a "reasonable salary" which the IRS expects to be in line with industry standards for your role. The remaining profit can then be taken as distributions without self-employment tax.
Don't forget that as a single-member LLC taxed as a sole proprietorship, you should be making quarterly estimated tax payments! When I first started, I didn't realize this and got hit with underpayment penalties. Since you don't have taxes withheld from a W2 like a C Corp owner would, you have to handle this yourself.
Just wanted to add that FICA issues can sometimes be resolved through Form SS-8 (Determination of Worker Status) and Form 8919 (Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages) if your employer misclassified you. Not sure if that applies in your situation since you mentioned having W-2s, but it's worth knowing about. In my experience as an immigrant worker years ago, I discovered my employer hadn't been withholding properly. I ended up contacting the Taxpayer Advocate Service, which is a free IRS program that helps when you're having difficulties resolving tax problems through normal channels. They were surprisingly helpful and might be another resource for you.
This is really helpful additional information, thank you! I'm definitely going to look into the Taxpayer Advocate Service. Did you have to pay any of the back taxes yourself when you went through this process? I'm worried about suddenly owing a huge bill.
In my case, I didn't have to pay the back FICA taxes personally. The IRS pursued my employer for both the employer and employee portions since they determined it was entirely the employer's failure to withhold and remit properly. They also assessed penalties against the employer, not me. The Taxpayer Advocate helped explain my rights and facilitated communication with the appropriate IRS departments. They assigned me a specific advocate who stayed with my case until resolution. The process took about 4 months total, but it was completely resolved with no negative impact on my immigration status. In fact, having documentation that I took steps to correct the situation actually helped demonstrate my good faith compliance with tax laws.
Make sure you keep detailed records of all your attempts to resolve this with your employer! Save emails, take notes of phone conversations with dates and times, and document everything. My cousin went through something similar and the detailed documentation of his attempts to get his employer to fix the issue was super important when he had to deal with the IRS. Also, check your paystubs from those years - do they show FICA withholding that just wasn't remitted, or was it completely missing from your paychecks?
This is really good advice. Also, if you have coworkers in the same situation, you might want to discreetly check with them. When my company messed up payroll taxes, it affected multiple employees. Having several people report the same issue got faster attention from both the employer and the IRS.
Here's my super basic method for quarterly taxes that's worked for me for 6 years: 1) Keep track of all income in a spreadsheet 2) Set aside 30% of EVERY payment you receive right when you get it 3) When quarterly deadline comes, pay whatever's in your "tax savings" account This isn't precise, but it's easy and I've always ended up with more than enough to cover my taxes. If you set aside too much, you just get a refund or can reduce future payments. The alternative is stressing over exact calculations every 3 months, which isn't worth the mental energy for most self-employed people.
Doesn't setting aside 30% of everything mean you're overpaying by a lot? Especially after deductions and everything, isn't the actual tax rate much lower than that?
You're right that it often means setting aside more than you'll ultimately owe, but that's intentional. The 30% covers federal income tax, self-employment tax (15.3%), and usually state income tax too. After deductions, you might end up with a lower effective rate - maybe 20-25% all-in for many people. But I've found it's much better to slightly overpay than to come up short. Plus, knowing that my taxes are covered gives me peace of mind. If I have extra in my tax savings account after filing my annual return, I just transfer some of it to my retirement account or reduce the next quarter's payment.
has anyone tried the IRS's direct pay system? i tried using it for my q1 payment but got super confused about what to select for "reason for payment"... is it "estimated tax" or "extension" or what? also it asked for a form number and i had no idea what to put
For quarterly estimated taxes, you'd select "Estimated Tax" as the reason for payment and "1040-ES" as the form number. Then you'll need to select the tax year and quarter you're paying for. It's actually pretty straightforward once you know which options to pick!
Tyrone Johnson
I've been using TaxAct for our family business for 3 years now. Based on what you described, you and your wife definitely need the Self-Employed version because of your LLCs and home offices. It includes all the Schedule C forms and business expense categories you'll need. For your kids, it really depends on how complex their self-employment is. If they're just doing simple contract work without many deductions, they might be ok with Deluxe. But if they're tracking business expenses, mileage, supplies, etc., they'll need Self-Employed too. One thing to consider - if your kids are working for your LLC, you'll need to issue them W-2s or 1099s depending on whether they're employees or contractors. TaxAct Self-Employed does handle this, but it's another wrinkle to consider.
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Amara Okafor
ā¢Thanks for the insights from your experience! Just to clarify - if my kids are receiving both W-2s from our businesses AND have their own separate self-employment income, which version would they need? Also, does TaxAct make it easy to handle the investment income reporting for all of us?
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Tyrone Johnson
ā¢If your kids have both W-2 income and separate self-employment income, they'd definitely need the Self-Employed version. The W-2 part is easy with any version, but once you add self-employment income with business deductions, you need the higher tier. TaxAct does handle investment income reporting pretty well in my experience. All versions (even Deluxe) include basic investment reporting for things like dividends and capital gains. The interface walks you through entering 1099-DIV and 1099-B forms. If you have more complex investments like rental properties or partnerships, you'd need the Self-Employed version for those too.
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Ingrid Larsson
Has anyone compared TaxAct vs TurboTax for family business situations like this? I'm in a similar boat and wondering if one is better than the other for multiple self-employed people.
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Carlos Mendoza
ā¢I've used both. TurboTax is more user-friendly but WAY more expensive, especially for multiple returns with self-employment. TaxAct Self-Employed is about half the price of TurboTax Self-Employed and covers basically the same forms. TaxAct's interface isn't as pretty but gets the job done.
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