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Your roommate should talk to their employer about a couple options: 1. Request reimbursement for supplies through an accountable plan. This would let them get reimbursed tax-free. 2. Ask about changing their employment structure. Many tattoo artists work as booth renters (self-employed) rather than employees specifically because of the equipment issue. The shop is honestly getting a great deal if they're paying employment taxes on them but making them buy all their own equipment. Most tattoo artists I know either work as independent contractors or the shop provides the basics.
Thanks for the suggestions! Do you know if the booth rental option would require my roommate to do anything special with taxes throughout the year? They're worried about owing a huge amount at tax time if they go independent.
If they switch to booth rental (self-employed), they would need to make quarterly estimated tax payments. They'd pay both income tax and self-employment tax (which covers Social Security and Medicare). The benefit is they could deduct ALL their business expenses - not just supplies, but also a portion of their phone bill, mileage driving to buy supplies, art classes to improve their skills, even a home office if they do any work at home. These deductions often offset much of the self-employment tax increase.
I'm a tattoo artist and this is exactly why I left being an employee! The booth rental/independent contractor route is WAY better tax-wise if you're buying all your own stuff anyway. One thing nobody mentioned - if your roommate gets reclassified, they should look into setting up an LLC or S-Corp eventually. Once you're making decent money (like $40k+), the tax savings can be huge. My accountant saved me about $6k last year through my S-Corp setup.
Is it complicated to set up an LLC? I'm in a similar situation (hairstylist buying all my own stuff) and thinking about going independent, but all the business formation stuff seems intimidating.
Just to add a bit more clarification because I think people get confused about the tax brackets too. When you reduce your taxable income with a Traditional IRA contribution, you're saving at your MARGINAL tax rate - the highest rate you pay. Example: If you're married filing jointly with taxable income of $190k (like OP), you're in the 24% bracket for 2023. Contributing $6,000 to a Traditional IRA would save you approximately $1,440 in federal taxes (24% of $6,000). It's still a great deal since you're getting an immediate tax benefit PLUS tax-deferred growth over time. Just don't expect it to reduce your tax bill by the full contribution amount.
So if I'm in a lower tax bracket now but expect to be in a higher one when I retire, should I do Roth instead? I'm trying to figure out which type of IRA makes more sense for my situation.
That's a great question and you've hit on one of the key considerations. If you expect to be in a higher tax bracket in retirement, a Roth IRA might make more sense because you pay taxes now at your lower rate, and then withdrawals are tax-free in retirement. Conversely, if you expect to be in a lower tax bracket in retirement, a Traditional IRA might be better since you get the tax deduction now at your higher rate, then pay taxes at your lower retirement rate when you withdraw. It's also worth considering that tax laws change over time, so having some money in both types of accounts (called "tax diversification") can be a prudent strategy.
One thing nobody's mentioned - don't forget about state taxes! Your traditional IRA contribution usually reduces your state taxable income too, not just federal. So if your state tax rate is like 5%, that's additional savings on top of the federal tax reduction. I contribute the max to my traditional IRA every year for this reason - between federal and state tax savings, it's a no-brainer. Just remember that you'll eventually pay taxes when you withdraw in retirement, but hopefully at a lower rate.
Not all states treat IRA deductions the same way as the federal government though. Some states don't allow all deductions that the feds do.
Everyone's overthinking this. You're returning money to your dad that was essentially his anyway. The IRS isn't monitoring family financial arrangements at this level. As long as you're not repeatedly transferring large sums of money back and forth to avoid taxes, nobody cares about a one-time $15k transfer to your parent that's below the gift tax threshold anyway.
Thanks, that's reassuring. The bank teller really freaked me out mentioning tax implications. Just to be clear though - neither of us needs to mention this on our tax returns at all, right?
Correct, neither of you needs to report this on your tax returns. This kind of transaction isn't reportable income for your dad, and since it's under the annual gift exclusion limit (even if it were considered a gift), you don't need to file a gift tax return. The bank teller was probably just being cautious - they're trained to mention potential tax implications for large transactions, but they're not tax professionals. In the banking world, any cash transaction over $10,000 requires special reporting (for anti-money laundering purposes), so tellers tend to be extra cautious about large transfers.
Something nobody's mentioned - if your dad ever gets audited, having some kind of documentation that this was a repayment might be helpful. Maybe just write "loan repayment for car purchased in 2018" in the memo line of the check, or even better, create a simple signed document between you two stating that the money is repayment for the truck he bought you. Better safe than sorry!
8 Don't overthink the W-4! I'm a payroll specialist and see people stress about this all the time. Quick tip: the IRS withholding calculator is your best friend for complicated situations like yours. Just Google "IRS tax withholding estimator" and it'll walk you through everything. You'll both need to update your W-4s for best results.
1 I tried using that IRS calculator but got stuck when it asked for YTD income and withholding amounts. Since I haven't started the job yet, I don't have that info. Should I just put zeros?
8 For your new job, yes, you would put zeros for the YTD income and withholding since you haven't started yet. The calculator will still work - it'll just base the calculations on projected amounts for the remainder of the year. For your wife, you should use her actual YTD information from her most recent paystub. That way, the calculator can give you the most accurate recommendation based on what's already happened this year and what's projected to happen with both incomes going forward.
17 Has anyone used the IRS online portal to adjust withholding throughout the year? I'm wondering if it's better to start with a "safe" W-4 filing and then adjust as needed.
3 The IRS doesn't have an "online portal" for W-4 adjustments - you have to submit a new W-4 to your employer anytime you want to change withholding. I usually file a new W-4 quarterly since my commission income fluctuates. Most HR departments let you update it anytime.
Oscar Murphy
Just a heads up, one thing often overlooked with foreign partners is banking. Most US banks make it extremely difficult to open business accounts with non-US owners who don't have SSNs. I had a nightmare situation with my Irish partner. My suggestion? Look into Mercury or Wise Business. They're more foreign-partner friendly than traditional banks. And get a good operating agreement that specifically addresses how banking will work with international ownership. Also, make sure you understand Form 8805 (foreign partner's information return) and withholding requirements. You might need to withhold taxes from distributions to your Serbian partner and remit them to the IRS, even if Serbia has foreign tax credit provisions.
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William Rivera
ā¢That's a really good point about banking. Did you have any issues with payment processors too? We'll be using Stripe and PayPal for most client payments, and I'm wondering if there are any special considerations with a foreign co-owner.
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Oscar Murphy
ā¢Stripe was actually fairly straightforward for us. They required identity verification for both owners, but having a US-registered business with a US bank account made it workable. My foreign partner had to upload his passport and proof of address, but no major hurdles. PayPal was a bit trickier because they wanted a US phone number for verification for both owners. We ended up using my phone for business purposes and adding him as an authorized user rather than setting him up with full owner access. Not ideal, but it worked. Just make sure your operating agreement covers how payment processors are handled so there's no confusion about who has access to what.
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Nora Bennett
Watch out for global management issues too! Our US-Czech partnership struggled because we didn't think through time zones and work expectations. Draft a CLEAR operating agreement covering: - Working hours expectations - Meeting schedules across time zones - Decision-making protocols - Who handles what clients - How payments are processed - Tax responsibility division Also, get software that works for both of you. We use Slack for communication, Zoom for meetings, QuickBooks for accounting (with separate logins), and DocuSign for contracts so everything is accessible regardless of location. Lastly, I recommend quarterly tax planning meetings with your accountant. International tax situations can change rapidly!
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Ryan Andre
ā¢Do you use any specific tools for managing the partnership agreement and financial distributions? We're setting up with a partner in Malaysia and realized we need better tracking for partner draws and tax withholding.
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