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Yara Nassar

How do I correctly apply my $4k capital gains loss carryover from 2020?

So I'm dealing with a $4k loss from stocks I sold back in 2020. From what I understand, I can use $3k of that loss for this year's taxes and then carry over $1k to next year, right? Here's where I'm confused - I earned about $300 in dividends this year. When I'm doing my taxes on Credit Karma, my investment summary shows ($2700). Shouldn't my $3k loss completely offset that $300 dividend income? And if that's the case, wouldn't I still have $2700 in losses used this year, meaning I'd only have $1300 to carry over to next year instead of the full $1k? Am I calculating this correctly or am I missing something?

You're on the right track, but let's clarify how capital loss carryovers work. The $3,000 limit applies to the net capital loss that can offset your ordinary income in a single tax year. However, capital losses first offset capital gains dollar-for-dollar without limit. For your situation: Your $4,000 capital loss would first offset your $300 in dividends (technically, qualified dividends are a type of capital gain). This leaves you with a net capital loss of $3,700. Of that, you can use $3,000 to offset ordinary income this year. The remaining $700 would be carried over to next year, not $1,300 or $1,000. That's probably why Credit Karma is showing ($2,700) - it's showing your loss after the dividend offset that will apply against ordinary income.

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Paolo Ricci

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Wait, I thought dividends were considered ordinary income, not capital gains? Only qualified dividends get the preferential tax treatment, but they're still reported separately from capital gains, right? Wouldn't the $3k limit apply after considering both dividends and capital gains/losses?

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You're right about the distinction - I simplified a bit too much. Qualified dividends receive the preferential tax rate similar to long-term capital gains, but they are technically not capital gains for the purpose of loss offsets. The correct sequence is: First, capital losses offset capital gains. Then, if you have excess capital losses (up to $3,000), those can offset ordinary income, which would include dividends. In your case, you'd have your $4,000 capital loss, offset $0 in capital gains, and then up to $3,000 of the remaining loss would offset ordinary income (including your $300 in dividends). The remaining $1,000 would carry forward to next year.

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Malik Johnson

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What form do you use to track your capital loss carryover year to year? I've been using a spreadsheet but I'm wondering if there's an official IRS form I should be using instead. This is my third year carrying over losses and I want to make sure I have proper documentation in case of an audit.

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Schedule D has a worksheet in the instructions called the "Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet" that you should fill out each year. It's not submitted with your return, but it's the official way to calculate your carryover amount. Keep it with your tax records! There's one for 28% rate transactions and another for regular transactions. You can find it in the Schedule D instructions PDF on the IRS website.

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Malik Johnson

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Thanks for the tip! I didn't realize there was an official worksheet in the Schedule D instructions. I'll definitely download that and start using it instead of my homemade spreadsheet. Makes sense they'd have something for this since so many people carry losses forward, especially after market downturns.

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Ravi Sharma

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Is anyone else getting confused by tax software showing different numbers for this? When I enter my carryover loss in TurboTax, the summary screen shows one number, but when I look at the actual Schedule D preview, the amount seems different. I'm not sure which one to trust!

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NebulaNomad

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I've noticed this too! The difference is usually because the summary screen might be showing your net capital loss after offsets, while Schedule D shows the detailed breakdown. Check Form 1040 line 7 to see the actual amount of loss being applied against your income this year (max $3k). The software is probably right, but it's showing you different stages of the calculation.

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