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Double check if your husband filled out a new W4 after the changes in 2020. The form was completely redesigned and removed allowances. A lot of people got confused and ended up with wrong withholding. My wife had the same issue - her employer asked her to fill out the new form but didn't explain it properly. We ended up owing over $4k.
This happened at my company too. HR gave everyone the new forms but provided zero guidance. Half our accounting department had withholding problems. The new form is way more confusing than the old one.
Check your state taxes too! If federal wasn't withheld, there's a good chance state taxes weren't either. You might have multiple tax bills coming. Sorry you're dealing with this - happened to me in 2019 and it was a nightmare.
Honestly just switch to FreeTaxUSA. I used TurboTax for years and had nothing but problems. FreeTaxUSA does everything TurboTax does in the free version but without the constant upsells and sketchy data practices. Been using it for 3 years now and never had a single issue.
Does FreeTaxUSA import your info from previous years if you're switching from TurboTax? And can it handle self-employment income without charging extra like TurboTax does?
FreeTaxUSA can't directly import your data from TurboTax, but you can upload a PDF of last year's return and it will pull some of the basic info. You'll need to enter some things manually the first year, but after that, it remembers your info for future years. Yes, it handles self-employment income without charging extra! That's actually one of the main reasons I switched. TurboTax wanted to charge me an extra $120 just because I had a small side business, but FreeTaxUSA includes Schedule C in their free version. The only thing they charge for is state filing (about $15) and audit assistance if you want it.
Has anyone tried H&R Block software instead? Im thinking of switching from turbotax but dont want to jump from one problem to another.
H&R Block will charge you around $150-200 for a 1040X with a Form 8606, but honestly they're not great with backdoor Roth conversions in my experience. I went to them last year for almost the identical situation and the preparer had to call a specialist because she'd never handled one before. You might be better off finding a CPA who specializes in retirement accounts. Ask specifically if they're familiar with backdoor Roth conversions and Form 8606 reporting before you commit.
Thanks for the heads up about H&R Block. Do you know if there's a way to find CPAs who specialize in retirement accounts specifically? Should I be looking for any particular certifications or experience?
I'd recommend searching for a CPA who specializes in "individual tax planning" or "retirement tax planning" specifically. There's no special certification just for retirement accounts, but you want someone who regularly handles them. When you contact them, ask these specific questions: 1) How many backdoor Roth conversions do you handle annually? 2) Are you familiar with filling out Form 8606 for both non-deductible contributions and Roth conversions? Any CPA who hesitates on those questions probably isn't the right fit. The American Institute of CPAs (AICPA) website has a "Find a CPA" feature that lets you search by specialty, which could be a good starting point.
Whatever you do, make sure you file that 1040X! My spouse had a similar issue with Form 8606 and we ignored it thinking it was no big deal. Two years later we got hit with a CP2000 notice saying we owed taxes on the ENTIRE Roth conversion amount plus penalties and interest. Took months to sort out.
Exactly this! The IRS systems will assume the entire conversion is taxable if you don't have a properly filed 8606 showing your non-deductible basis. They have no way of knowing you already paid tax on that money otherwise.
I just want to add something important about credit elect changes that hasn't been mentioned yet. If your client has already made estimated tax payments for 2025, changing this credit elect could potentially create an underpayment penalty situation. The credit elect amount would have been considered paid as of April 15, 2024 (or whatever the filing deadline was), while any replacement estimated payments would only be considered paid on the date they're actually made. This timing difference could trigger penalties if they don't adjust their remaining quarterly payments appropriately.
That's a really good point I hadn't thought about. In this case, my client hasn't made any 2025 estimated payments yet - they were planning to rely entirely on the credit elect. If we amend now to get most of it refunded, would you recommend they start making quarterly payments right away to cover 2025 tax liability?
Yes, I would definitely recommend they start making quarterly estimated payments immediately. Since they're eliminating most of their credit elect cushion, they'll need to ensure they're meeting safe harbor requirements to avoid underpayment penalties. They should calculate their projected 2025 tax liability and make sure they're paying either 90% of that amount or 100% of their 2024 tax liability (110% if their AGI was over $150,000) through quarterly installments. The next deadline is September 16, 2024, so they still have time to adjust their payment strategy. I usually advise clients in this situation to slightly overpay estimates to provide a buffer, especially if they're close to the threshold where penalties might apply.
Anyone know how long amended returns for credit elect changes are taking these days? I filed one for a client back in June (similar situation, wanted to change from credit elect to refund) and we're still waiting.
Filed one in May for a credit elect change and it took exactly 19 weeks to process. Got the refund direct deposited about a week after that. So roughly 5 months total from submission to money in account. This was a paper-filed amendment though, might be faster if you can e-file.
Norah Quay
Just wanted to add - my financial advisor told me that for inherited IRAs before the SECURE Act (pre-2020), you don't need to empty the account in 10 years like newer inherited IRAs. You can stretch distributions over your lifetime, which is a huge tax advantage! But you absolutely need to start taking those distributions ASAP and file the 5329 forms for the missed years. Also, whatever you do, DO NOT roll this into your own IRA or do any kind of transfer that would make the IRS think you're treating it as your own. That would trigger immediate taxes on the entire amount. Keep it as a separately designated inherited IRA.
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Owen Devar
ā¢Thank you so much for this warning about not rolling it into our own accounts! I honestly might have tried to do that thinking it would simplify things. Do you happen to know if we can just start taking the correct distributions now, or do we need to "catch up" on all the ones we missed over the past years?
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Norah Quay
ā¢You don't need to "catch up" by withdrawing all the missed distributions at once. You should calculate what you should have taken each year, but going forward you just need to start taking the correct annual distributions based on the appropriate life expectancy table. What you DO need to do is file Form 5329 for each year you missed a distribution, request the penalty waiver on each form, and include a letter explaining that you didn't understand the RMD requirements. Then start taking the correct annual distribution this year. Most financial institutions that hold IRAs can help calculate your required distribution amount.
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Leo McDonald
Has anyone used TurboTax to handle this situation? I'm dealing with something similar but don't want to pay for an expensive accountant if the software can handle the forms.
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Jessica Nolan
ā¢I used H&R Block software (not the in-person service) last year to handle my missed RMDs on an inherited IRA. It worked fine for generating the 5329 forms, but it didn't help with the waiver request letter or calculating what my distributions should have been. I ended up having to research those parts separately.
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Leo McDonald
ā¢Thanks for sharing your experience! Sounds like I might need some additional help beyond just the tax software to get the calculations right. I'll look into what supplemental services might help with those calculations while still using the software for the actual filing.
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