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Amina Diop

IRS returned my 2022 Form 8606 - now they want 1040X for backdoor Roth conversion

So I made things complicated with my Roth IRA in 2022. What happened was I contributed the max to my Roth automatically, then realized my income was too high to qualify. I had to recharacterize everything to a Traditional IRA (which had zero balance before this), then did a backdoor Roth conversion that same day. When tax time came, my accountant filed everything through TurboTax but for whatever reason couldn't generate the Form 8606 through the software. I ended up filling out the 8606 myself and mailed it directly to the IRS. Well, I just checked my mail from last year and discovered the IRS sent me a letter saying they returned my 8606 and I need to file an amended return via Form 1040X. The letter is almost a year old at this point! To make everything worse, I just found out my accountant passed away unexpectedly. I'm completely lost on how to proceed now. Should I just go to H&R Block to handle this? Does anyone know roughly what they charge for dealing with amended returns involving IRA conversions? I do have my 2022 tax transcript available. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

The good news is this is fixable! When you do a backdoor Roth, Form 8606 is absolutely essential as it documents the non-deductible contribution to your Traditional IRA and the subsequent conversion to Roth. The IRS likely returned it because it was submitted separately from your original return. For your situation, you'll need to file Form 1040X (amended return) and include a properly completed Form 8606. The 8606 should show your non-deductible contribution to the Traditional IRA and the conversion to Roth. This ensures you won't be taxed twice on that money. Since your accountant passed away (sorry to hear that), I'd recommend gathering all your documents: the original tax return, IRA contribution statements, recharacterization paperwork, and conversion confirmation. These will be essential for whoever helps you file the amendment.

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Amina Diop

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Thank you for the response. Would I need to file the 1040X online or can I mail it in? And do you know if there's a deadline for filing the amended return since the letter is from almost a year ago? I'm worried about potential penalties at this point.

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You can file Form 1040X either electronically or by mail, though electronic filing is typically faster. Most tax professionals can file it electronically for you. As for deadlines, you generally have three years from the original due date of the return to file an amendment, so you're still well within that timeframe for a 2022 return. The IRS typically doesn't issue penalties just for filing an amended return, especially when you're responding to their request. The sooner you handle this, the better, but you shouldn't face additional penalties solely because of the delay in responding to their letter.

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H&R Block will charge you around $150-200 for a 1040X with a Form 8606, but honestly they're not great with backdoor Roth conversions in my experience. I went to them last year for almost the identical situation and the preparer had to call a specialist because she'd never handled one before. You might be better off finding a CPA who specializes in retirement accounts. Ask specifically if they're familiar with backdoor Roth conversions and Form 8606 reporting before you commit.

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Amina Diop

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Thanks for the heads up about H&R Block. Do you know if there's a way to find CPAs who specialize in retirement accounts specifically? Should I be looking for any particular certifications or experience?

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I'd recommend searching for a CPA who specializes in "individual tax planning" or "retirement tax planning" specifically. There's no special certification just for retirement accounts, but you want someone who regularly handles them. When you contact them, ask these specific questions: 1) How many backdoor Roth conversions do you handle annually? 2) Are you familiar with filling out Form 8606 for both non-deductible contributions and Roth conversions? Any CPA who hesitates on those questions probably isn't the right fit. The American Institute of CPAs (AICPA) website has a "Find a CPA" feature that lets you search by specialty, which could be a good starting point.

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Ravi Sharma

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Whatever you do, make sure you file that 1040X! My spouse had a similar issue with Form 8606 and we ignored it thinking it was no big deal. Two years later we got hit with a CP2000 notice saying we owed taxes on the ENTIRE Roth conversion amount plus penalties and interest. Took months to sort out.

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Freya Larsen

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Exactly this! The IRS systems will assume the entire conversion is taxable if you don't have a properly filed 8606 showing your non-deductible basis. They have no way of knowing you already paid tax on that money otherwise.

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