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Let me try to simplify this with an example: Let's say: - Your 2024 tax was $8,000 - Your 2025 tax turns out to be $12,000 To avoid penalties for 2025, you need to have paid the SMALLER of: - 90% of $12,000 = $10,800 - 100% of $8,000 = $8,000 Since $8,000 is smaller, that's your target. If you paid at least $8,000 during the year through withholding or estimated payments, no penalty! The rule is designed to protect you when your income increases unexpectedly.
What about if you're a high-income earner? I heard there's a different percentage for people making over a certain amount. Is it still "whichever is smaller" in that case?
You're right to ask about high-income situations! If your AGI was over $150,000 (or $75,000 if married filing separately) in the prior year, the rule changes slightly. Instead of 100% of your prior year tax, you need to pay 110% of your prior year tax. So using the same example but assuming you're a high earner: - 90% of $12,000 = $10,800 - 110% of $8,000 = $8,800 In this case, $8,800 would be smaller, so that's your target to avoid penalties. And yes, it's still "whichever is smaller" - the IRS just adjusts the prior year percentage for high-income taxpayers.
Kinda related, but does anyone know if this rule applies the same way for self-employment taxes? Like if most of my income is from 1099 work? I'm trying to figure out how much to set aside each quarter.
Yep, the same rules apply for self-employment income. Your required estimated tax payments (to avoid penalties) still need to cover the SMALLER of 90% current year or 100% prior year (110% if high income). The difference is you need to include both income tax AND self-employment tax in your calculations. A good practice for self-employed folks is to set aside 25-30% of your income for taxes (including SE tax), but using last year's total tax as your safe harbor amount is usually the easiest way to avoid penalties if your income is growing.
Don't forget to check with your state tax agency too! Someone filed a federal tax return with my SSN but also filed state returns in two states I've never lived in. Each state has their own process for handling tax identity theft. Also, consider filing this year's tax return as early as possible (if you haven't already) to beat potential fraudsters to it next time. The IRS processes returns on a first-come basis, so filing early can prevent someone else from filing in your name.
How do you check with state agencies if you don't know which states they might have filed in? Do you have to contact all 50 states?
You don't need to contact all 50 states. When you get your federal tax transcript, it may show which states had information returns (like W-2s or 1099s) filed. Focus on those states first. Additionally, if the identity thief used your address, they likely filed in your home state. If they used a different address, the IRS transcript might show where refunds were sent, giving you a clue about which states to check. Most state tax departments have identity theft departments similar to the IRS.
Something similar happened to me. Get your credit reports from all three bureaus and freeze your credit ASAP if you haven't already. I waited too long and the person who stole my identity opened SIX credit cards!! Also, call Social Security Administration directly because if they have your SSN they might try to mess with your social security benefits too. The SSA has a fraud department that can put extra protection on your account.
Did freezing your credit affect your ability to get housing? I'm worried since I'm still establishing myself after being homeless and might need to apply for apartments.
I've been a part-time preparer for 5 years and have never received a penalty. The key is documentation, documentation, documentation! For every return, I keep: - Notes from client interviews - Copies of all supporting documents - A checklist of due diligence steps for credits - Documentation of any unusual situations or positions taken Most penalties I've heard about among colleagues were for repeatedly failing to verify eligibility for refundable credits like EITC. If you create a systematic approach to verification and stick to it, you'll be fine.
That's super helpful! Do you use any particular software or system to manage all this documentation? I'm trying to figure out the best way to stay organized from the beginning.
I use a combination of tools. The tax software I use (Drake) has built-in due diligence worksheets that help tremendously. For document management, I started with a simple folder system but upgraded to SmartVault after my client load increased. I also created my own checklists in Excel for different types of returns (W-2 only, self-employed, rental property, etc.) that I complete for each client. The most important thing is consistency - whatever system you choose, use it for every single client, no exceptions. It becomes second nature after a while, and that's when you can feel confident you're protected against penalties.
One thing to consider is that a significant percentage of penalties comes from just a few specific areas: 1. EITC due diligence failures 2. Failing to verify child-related credits eligibility 3. Not properly confirming self-employment income/expenses 4. Knowingly preparing returns with suspicious refundable credits The IRS has limited enforcement resources, so they focus where the biggest tax gaps exist. If you're careful in these high-risk areas and maintain proper documentation, your risk is minimal.
That makes sense, but I've heard horror stories about preparer penalties being applied even when the preparer thought they were following the rules. Is there any protection or insurance available specifically for preparers?
One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you check Box 12 of your W-2. It should have a code V followed by an amount, which represents the value of any stock you received through exercising options. This is important because it helps you verify that your employer reported everything correctly. Also, have you checked if your company offers a ESPP (Employee Stock Purchase Plan)? Those have different tax rules than regular NQSOs and might be worth looking into if you want to acquire more company stock at a discount.
I thought code V was only for incentive stock options (ISOs), not for non-qualified stock options? OP mentioned having NQSOs so I don't think they would have a code V entry. Isn't NQSO income just included in boxes 1, 3, and 5 as regular income?
You're absolutely right - I mixed up the reporting requirements. Code V is indeed only for ISOs, not for NQSOs. For non-qualified options, the income is simply included in boxes 1, 3, and 5 of the W-2 as ordinary income, with no special code needed. As for ESPPs, they're still worth considering alongside NQSOs, but you're correct that they're a completely different benefit with their own tax treatment. The main advantage is the potential discount on the purchase price (usually up to 15%) and the possibility of favorable tax treatment if specific holding periods are met.
Don't forget about state taxes! Depending on where you live, the state tax treatment of stock option exercises can vary significantly from federal treatment. Some states like California are particularly aggressive about taxing stock compensation. Also, if you moved between states during the year you exercised OR during the vesting period, you might need to apportion the income between states. I did an option exercise after moving from NY to FL and had to pay NY tax on the portion that vested while I was a NY resident, even though I exercised everything while living in FL.
Oh that's a great point! Does anyone know if you can get double-taxed by different states on the same stock option income? I moved from Massachusetts to Texas mid-year and exercised options that had been vesting for years.
Ally Tailer
You should check if both programs are including the same business income in the QBID calculation. I had a similar issue and discovered TurboTax was missing some 1099-NEC income in the QBID calculation but including it in my total income. Make sure all your Schedule C businesses are being included properly in both software. Also, did you indicate different business types between the two software? That can affect the QBID calculation too.
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Simon White
ā¢Thanks for the suggestion! I double-checked and both programs have the same 1099-NEC income included, but I noticed TurboTax has my photography business categorized as "Arts & Entertainment" while TaxAct has it as "Professional Services." Could that make such a big difference?
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Ally Tailer
ā¢Yep, that could absolutely cause the difference! The business classification can significantly impact how the software calculates your QBID. "Professional Services" might be triggering TaxAct to apply different limitations or calculations than the "Arts & Entertainment" category in TurboTax. Try changing the classification to match in both software and see if that resolves the discrepancy. Based on IRS guidelines, photography would typically fall under "Arts & Entertainment" rather than "Professional Services" unless you're doing commercial/corporate work specifically.
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Aliyah Debovski
Has anyone done a side-by-side accuracy comparison between TurboTax and TaxAct? I've been using TurboTax for years but the price keeps going up and I'm thinking of switching.
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Miranda Singer
ā¢I've used both for the last three years. TaxAct is significantly cheaper but I've found TurboTax catches more deductions, especially for business owners. That said, TaxAct has gotten much better with their interface recently. If your taxes are relatively straightforward, TaxAct is probably fine and will save you money.
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Aliyah Debovski
ā¢Thanks for the insight! My taxes aren't super complicated, just a W-2 and some investment income. Might give TaxAct a try this year then.
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