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In my experience as a long-time 1099 contractor, the hotel deduction in this case is risky. Since you're primarily going to visit family, the IRS would likely consider this a personal trip. The fact that your parent company is there doesn't help unless you're actually conducting business with them in person. A better approach might be to look at coworking spaces in the area instead of the hotel. You could deduct the daily fee for the coworking space as a clear business expense since it's only being used for work, while staying with family. This creates a cleaner separation between personal and business expenses.
I hadn't thought about coworking spaces! That's a really smart alternative. Do you know if there are any specific documentation requirements for using coworking spaces as a business expense? And would that still work if I keep the hotel for personal comfort but also use a coworking space?
For coworking spaces, keep the receipts/invoices from the space and note the business activities performed there each day. Take photos of your workspace and save any digital check-ins. If you're producing deliverables while there, note that in your records. You could absolutely still keep the hotel for personal reasons while using a coworking space for business. This actually creates a much cleaner deduction situation because the coworking space has no personal use component - it's 100% business. The hotel would then be clearly personal and non-deductible, but your dedicated workspace would be fully deductible. This arrangement also makes it much harder for the IRS to question the business purpose since there's no mixing of personal and business use in the same space.
As someone who's been a 1099 contractor for 5+ years, I would strongly recommend against trying to deduct the hotel in this case. I tried something similar in 2021 and it triggered an audit. The IRS agent specifically cited the primary purpose test and disallowed my deduction since the primary purpose of my travel was personal. One thing no one has mentioned - have you considered checking if your company might have a corporate rate at any hotels in the area? My client company had a business rate at several hotels that was cheaper than regular rates, even though they didn't pay for my stay.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - have you double checked your withholding on those W-2s? With 4 different jobs between you, it's possible that each employer is calculating withholding as if that's your only income, which would lead to significant underwithholding. You might need to submit new W-4 forms to each employer and select the "Multiple Jobs" option or specify an additional amount to withhold from each paycheck. This won't help for 2023, but could prevent the same surprise for 2024.
That's a good point I hadn't considered. I think each employer is definitely calculating as if that's our only income. How would I figure out what the right additional withholding amount should be for each job? Is there a calculator for that?
The IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator tool on their website that's designed exactly for situations like yours with multiple jobs. It will walk you through entering info from all four W-2s and then recommend specific withholding amounts for each job. For a quick rule of thumb, take your total expected annual tax bill (probably around $44-45k based on your income) and subtract what you're currently having withheld. Then divide that shortage by the number of pay periods remaining in the year to determine how much additional withholding you need across all jobs. You can split that amount across all four jobs however makes sense for your cash flow.
Has anyone mentioned looking into any tax credits you might qualify for? The Child Tax Credit, American Opportunity Credit (for education expenses), or Saver's Credit could apply depending on your situation. Credits are even better than deductions since they directly reduce your tax bill dollar-for-dollar.
At their income level ($270k), they're probably phased out of most credits. The Saver's Credit phases out at $73k for married filing jointly, and the Child Tax Credit starts phasing out at $200k. Education credits have similar income limitations.
The two filing requirements exist for different reasons: - The $13,850 threshold is about INCOME TAX - The $400 threshold is about SELF-EMPLOYMENT TAX (Social Security & Medicare) When you work for a company, you pay 7.65% for SS & Medicare, and your employer pays the other 7.65% (total 15.3%). When you're self-employed, you have to pay BOTH halves = 15.3%. That's why the IRS wants you to file if you made $400+ in self-employment, even if you don't owe income tax. So if you made $9,500 total with $2,000 from gig work, you won't owe income tax (under $13,850) but you will owe self-employment tax on the $2,000 (minus any business expenses). You'd use Schedule C to report the business income/expenses and Schedule SE to calculate the self-employment tax.
But this seems super unfair to people barely getting by. So the tax code basically says "ur so poor u dont owe taxes... unless ur self employed then pay up"?? Is there any way around this or any special credits for low income self employed people?
You make a good point about the seeming unfairness. There are actually some options that can help. You may qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) which is specifically designed for lower-income workers, including self-employed people. This credit is refundable, meaning you can get money back even if you don't owe income tax. Also, don't forget about business deductions. You can deduct legitimate business expenses from your self-employment income before calculating the 15.3% tax. This includes things like supplies, mileage, home office expenses, phone/internet costs used for business, etc. For many gig workers, these deductions can significantly reduce the taxable self-employment income, sometimes by 30-50% depending on your situation.
Am I the only one who thinks it's stupid that you have to file the regular way if you make under $13,850 from a job, but if you make $400 from trying to hustle on the side you have to file??? Does turbo tax handle this properly or do I need to do someting special?
TurboTax does handle this correctly. I was in this situation and it asked if I had any self-employment income. When I entered my DoorDash earnings, it automatically added Schedule C and SE to my return. It also walked me through possible deductions like mileage and phone expenses that helped lower the self-employment tax I owed.
Just wanted to add - I'm a tax preparer (not the one who gave you bad advice), and what others have said is correct. Box 3 income on a 1099-MISC CAN absolutely be reported on Schedule C if you're providing services as an independent contractor, which clearly you are. Your client technically should have used a 1099-NEC for nonemployee compensation rather than a 1099-MISC with box 3, but that's THEIR error, not yours. You still report it on Schedule C and take all legitimate business deductions. With 20k miles, at the current 2025 mileage rate of 65.5 cents per mile, that's a $13,100 deduction right there! Find a different tax preparer who understands self-employment tax returns better.
Thank you so much for this confirmation. I'm definitely going to find a new tax preparer. Quick follow-up - if I claim the standard mileage deduction, can I still deduct the cost of the new tires separately or is that considered included in the mileage rate?
If you use the standard mileage rate (which is typically the better option with high mileage like yours), that rate is designed to cover all costs of operating your vehicle including depreciation, maintenance, repairs, tires, gas, oil, and insurance. So no, you cannot separately deduct the cost of tires in addition to taking the standard mileage rate. However, you can still deduct other legitimate business expenses that aren't related to your vehicle operation, such as business supplies, a portion of your cell phone bill if used for business, business insurance, or any other ordinary and necessary business expenses.
Has anyone actually used TurboTax or H&R Block software for this specific situation? I'm having the exact same problem with box 3 on a 1099-MISC and would love to know which software handles it correctly without causing problems.
I used TurboTax Self-Employed for a similar situation last year. When you get to the 1099-MISC section, just enter the information exactly as it appears on your form. Then when it asks about your business, create a Schedule C for your personal assistant business, and TurboTax will guide you through entering all your expenses including mileage. It worked perfectly - just make sure you choose the Self-Employed version not the cheaper ones.
CosmicCrusader
One piece of advice from someone who's been in your situation - if you go with a CPA, make sure they specialize in multi-state returns and investment properties. I made the mistake of going with a general tax preparer last year after my California to Texas move, and they missed several deductions related to my rental property. If you decide to use tax software, set aside a full weekend to work through it. The multi-state portion takes longer than you'd expect, especially with rental income in the mix. And keep all your moving-related receipts - some might be deductible depending on your work situation.
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Diego Flores
ā¢Thank you for this advice! Did you find it difficult to verify if a CPA truly had expertise with multi-state returns? I'm worried about just taking someone's word for it and then finding out they weren't as experienced as they claimed.
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CosmicCrusader
ā¢That's a valid concern! I'd recommend asking potential CPAs specific questions about your situation before hiring them. Ask how many multi-state returns they handle annually and specifically about rental property scenarios similar to yours. An experienced CPA should be able to immediately discuss specific forms (Schedule E, part-year resident forms) and potential pitfalls without hesitation. Also, don't just go with someone who says "yes, I can do that" - ask them to explain HOW they would approach your specific situation. A truly experienced multi-state CPA will mention things like sourcing rules, reciprocity between states, and credit for taxes paid to another state. If they can't speak to these specifics, that's a red flag.
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Ethan Brown
I'm going through literally the exact same thing (moved from NY to MA with a rental property in NY). I tried using TurboTax Premier and it was a nightmare - kept getting contradictory guidance about how to handle the rental depreciation with the state split. Finally broke down and hired a CPA in Massachusetts who had experience with NY properties. Cost me $475 but honestly worth every penny for the peace of mind. He found several deductions related to my move that I had no idea about. If you're not in a rush, you could try starting with tax software to see if you can handle it, knowing you can always bail and go to a professional if it gets too complicated. Just don't wait until April 14th to make that decision!
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Yuki Yamamoto
ā¢Did your CPA handle everything remotely or did you have to go into their office? I'm in a similar situation but travel a lot for work so in-person meetings are tough.
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