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One option nobody mentioned yet is to check if you qualify for the IRS Fresh Start program. It's designed specifically for people who are struggling with tax debt. They increased the threshold for setting up streamlined installment agreements to $50,000 a few years back, and made it easier to get liens withdrawn after payment. I went through something similar in 2021 owing about $12,000 and was able to set up an installment plan where I paid $250/month. Not fun, but definitely manageable. The key is to respond to all IRS notices quickly and be proactive. Ignoring them is the worst thing you can do!
Does the Fresh Start program work if you already have a payment plan from a previous tax issue? I set one up in 2022, then had another problem with my 2023 taxes.
Yes, you can still use Fresh Start provisions if you have a previous payment plan, but you'll likely need to renegotiate your existing agreement to include the new tax debt. The IRS typically combines all outstanding tax debts into a single payment plan. If your total debt is under $50,000, you can usually handle this online through the IRS payment agreement application. If your debt is now over $50,000 with the addition of the new tax issue, you might need to provide more financial information and work with an IRS representative directly. The key is contacting them before they contact you about the new debt - being proactive always looks better and gives you more options.
Has anyone tried using a tax attorney for this kind of situation? My cousin keeps telling me I should talk to one before agreeing to anything with the IRS, but I'm worried about the cost.
I used a tax attorney last year for a $15k back tax issue. Cost me $2,500 but he negotiated my penalties down by about $3,200 so it was worth it. The free consultation helped me understand my options before committing to anything. If your situation is pretty straightforward though, you might be fine handling it yourself with an installment agreement.
Just FYI - all paid preparers are REQUIRED to sign the return and include their PTIN (Preparer Tax Identification Number). They also must provide you a complete copy of your return. If your preparer isn't doing this, they might not even be registered with the IRS which is a huge problem! Ask to see their PTIN and credentials. If they dodge this request or get defensive, that's a major red flag. You can report problematic preparers to the IRS using Form 14157.
Is the PTIN requirement just for CPAs or does it apply to all tax preparers? My aunt does taxes on the side and I'm not sure she has this number you mentioned.
The PTIN requirement applies to ALL paid tax preparers, not just CPAs. This includes enrolled agents, tax attorneys, and anyone who prepares tax returns for compensation. The only exception is if someone is preparing returns as an unpaid volunteer. If your aunt charges money for tax preparation services, she legally needs a PTIN. It's not optional - it's a federal requirement. The IRS uses these identification numbers to track preparers and hold them accountable for the returns they submit. Without a PTIN, she shouldn't be charging for tax preparation services at all.
My neighbor had this same issue and ended up finding out the preparer was claiming fake business expenses to inflate the refund, then taking a percentage of the "extra" refund as their "fee." When they switched preparers, their refund was significantly lower but legitimate. Ask yourself why they wouldn't want you to review the return... what are they hiding? Even if it's not fraud, it could be incompetence they don't want exposed.
This happened to my coworker too! Their preparer claimed random deductions they weren't eligible for and their refund was huge. They got audited two years later and had to pay everything back plus penalties. The preparer was nowhere to be found by then.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're also accounting for any expenses related to the scrapping process itself. When I closed my metalworking business, I was able to deduct the costs of shipping materials to the refiner, appraisal fees, and even some disposal costs for materials that couldn't be recycled. These would go as regular business expenses on your Schedule C, not as part of COGS. They're legitimate costs of closing your business and can help offset some of the loss you're taking on the inventory.
That's a really good point I hadn't considered! I did spend about $350 on shipping everything to the refiner since some of the materials were pretty heavy. And there was a small assessment fee they charged before processing. I'm guessing those would go under "shipping" and "professional services" on Schedule C?
Exactly right. The shipping costs would go under "shipping and delivery" expenses on Schedule C, and the assessment fee would typically go under "professional services" or possibly "fees" depending on the nature of the charge. Don't forget to also include any other closing costs you incurred - things like final utility payments for your workspace, any termination fees for services or rentals, and even costs for storing business records. These are all legitimate business expenses in the year you close shop. Every deduction helps offset that final tax bill!
Quick question related to this - I'm planning to close my craft business next year and will probably scrap a lot of inventory too. Does anyone know if I need to specifically mark on my taxes that this is my final business filing? Is there a special form or something I need to submit to formally close the business with the IRS?
When I closed my business last year, I had to check a box on Schedule C indicating it was my final return for this business. I think it's in the top section near where you enter your business name and info. There's literally a box that says "If this is your final return, check here" or something similar.
This happened to me with Robinhood specifically! Their document processing is a mess. Here's what worked for me: Email support@robinhood.com with "URGENT: TAX DOCUMENT VERIFICATION" in the subject line. In the email, include: - Your account number - Last 4 of SSN - The date you originally submitted documents - Statement that you're concerned about account restrictions - Ask them to escalate to the tax compliance team Then also try reaching out via Twitter DM to @RobinhoodApp. I know it sounds weird but their social media team can sometimes get things escalated faster than regular support.
Thank you so much for this specific advice for Robinhood! I just sent the email with that exact subject line and all the details you mentioned. I don't have Twitter but might create an account just for this purpose if I don't hear back soon. Did you have to wait long after sending the email before they responded? I'm getting really nervous as the deadline gets closer.
I got a response within 2 business days to the email. The Twitter route was actually faster - got a response same day, though it took about 3-4 days total to fully resolve the issue. They'll likely ask you to resubmit the form through their secure message center inside the app, which is fine. The important thing is getting your case flagged in their system so it doesn't just sit in the general queue. Once the right department has it, they're actually pretty efficient.
Has anyone had success using the dispute resolution department at these platforms? I went through arbitration with Webull last year over a similar documentation issue and it was resolved quickly once I mentioned the word "arbitration" in my communications.
I've had success with this approach too. Most brokerage agreements have an arbitration clause, and just mentioning that you're "reviewing the dispute resolution section of your account agreement" can suddenly make things move much faster. They don't want to deal with the hassle and cost of formal arbitration.
Saleem Vaziri
Have you checked if you entered the mediation income exactly the same way in both services? Last year I had a similar issue because in one service I entered a 1099-MISC as "non-employee compensation" and in the other as "other income" - led to totally different tax calculations! Also sometimes free versions of tax software miss deductions that premium versions catch automatically.
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Felicity Bud
ā¢I'm actually not sure! In the first service I think I just followed the prompts about having received a 1099-MISC and entered the numbers. In the second one I might have categorized it differently without realizing. That could explain the difference. Do you know if mediation work should be considered self-employment income or something else?
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Saleem Vaziri
ā¢Mediation work reported on a 1099-MISC should typically be treated as self-employment income, which means you'd need to pay self-employment tax on it (an additional 15.3% covering both employer and employee portions of Social Security and Medicare). If one service is calculating it as self-employment income and the other isn't, that would explain a big difference. The service showing you owe money is probably calculating it correctly with self-employment tax, while the other might be missing that. Check box 7 on your 1099-MISC - if there's an amount there for "Nonemployee compensation," that's definitely self-employment income.
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Kayla Morgan
This happened to me too! Found out the issue was that my state has a special treatment for 1099-MISC income from certain professions like mediation. One software knew about this rule and the other didn't. Maybe print out both returns and take them to a local tax preparer? They usually do a quick review for like $50-75 which might be worth it to avoid potential audit issues down the road.
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James Maki
ā¢Second this advice about the local tax preparer. Online services have improved but they're still not perfect with state-specific regulations. I found a small local accounting office that reviewed my self-prepared return for $65 and found several errors that would have cost me hundreds.
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