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Have you checked your IRS transcript? That would tell you if someone already filed on your behalf or if an extension is already in place. You can access it online through the IRS website if you create an account. The transcripts show all activity on your tax account including extensions filed, returns processed, and payments received. It might save you a lot of time troubleshooting since you'll be able to see exactly what's in the IRS system under your SSN.
Creating an IRS account is a nightmare though. I tried to do this last year and they wanted me to verify my identity by entering information from a mortgage, car loan, or credit card - none of which I had at the time! Ended up having to mail in a form and wait 10 days for a verification code.
That's a good point about the verification process. It can be difficult for some people to create an account. If you can't access your transcript online, calling the IRS transcript request line at 800-908-9946 is another option. They can mail your transcript to your address on record. The most important thing is confirming whether an extension or return has actually been filed under your SSN before worrying about potential identity theft or duplicate payments. This information can help determine your next steps.
Just a quick question - how much did you attempt to pay with your extension filing? Remember an extension only gives you more time to FILE, not more time to PAY. If you owed taxes for 2024, those were still due by April 18th regardless of an extension.
I tried to pay about $2,700 which was what TurboTax estimated I would owe based on the information I entered so far. I understand extensions only give more time to file, not pay - that's why I attempted to submit the payment with my extension request. I'm just worried about where that money went since the extension was rejected!
This is such an important point that people miss! I've seen so many friends get hit with penalties because they thought filing an extension meant they didn't have to pay until October. The interest and penalties on unpaid tax can add up fast - I think it's something like 0.5% per month plus interest.
Dont forget you can offset up to $3000 of ordinary income with capital losses too if u have more losses than gains in a year. And any unused losses can carry forward to future tax years. Really helpful if u have a bad year trading!
Just wanted to add one thing no one has mentioned yet - if your total self-employment income is under $433 for 2024, you don't have to pay self-employment tax at all! So depending on how much you made from these trials total, you might not have to worry about that 15.3% tax everyone's talking about. Also, there's a simplified version of Schedule C called Schedule C-EZ that you might be able to use if your business expenses are under $5,000 and you meet a few other criteria. Makes the whole process much less painful.
Thanks for this info! Just to clarify, my total from all the trial work was about $540 for the year. Does that mean I definitely have to pay the self-employment tax? And is Schedule C-EZ still available? I thought I read somewhere that the IRS discontinued it a few years ago.
Since your total is over $400, you would need to pay self-employment tax on that $540. It's 15.3% which comes out to about $82.62 in additional tax. You're right about Schedule C-EZ - I apologize for the confusion. The IRS did discontinue it after 2019. You'll need to use the regular Schedule C, but with such a straightforward situation and minimal income, it shouldn't be too complicated. Just list each payment as income and any legitimate expenses you had related to earning that income.
has anyone here actually gotten audited over small amounts like this? I made like $300 doing some test articles for a blog and honestly wasnt planning to report it at all. they didnt send me any tax forms and paid me through venmo. feels like more trouble than its worth tbh
Technically you're supposed to report all income regardless of the amount or whether you received a tax form. But realistically speaking, the IRS isn't likely to audit someone over $300. They typically focus on much larger discrepancies. That said, if you're ever audited for other reasons, they could discover this unreported income. Your call, but personally I report everything just to avoid potential headaches later.
Don't panic - this happens all the time. The IRS has a program called the Voluntary Classification Settlement Program (VCSP) that might help you. It lets employers who've been treating workers as independent contractors reclassify them as employees with reduced penalties. You'll definitely need to file Schedule H, but also look into Form SS-8 (Determination of Worker Status) and Form 8919 (Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages). Your babysitter did the right thing by reporting the income correctly. The good news is that since she reported it, you're less likely to face an audit specifically for this issue.
Thanks for mentioning the VCSP program. I'll definitely look into that along with Schedule H. Would you recommend I also file the SS-8 form, or is that something my babysitter would need to do? And do I need to worry about state taxes too, or just federal?
The SS-8 form is typically filed when there's a dispute about worker classification. Since you both agree she's a household employee, you probably don't need to file it. It's more important to focus on the Schedule H and getting caught up on the employment taxes. Yes, you absolutely need to look into state taxes as well. Most states have their own version of unemployment taxes for household employers, and the thresholds can be different from federal requirements. Check with your state's employment department as soon as possible, as they may have separate filing requirements and potential penalties.
Just went through this whole mess last year. One tip - if you file Schedule H late, be sure to include an explanation letter with your filing. Explain that you weren't aware of the household employee requirements and that you're voluntarily coming into compliance now that you understand your obligations. Also, keep in mind that you might be able to claim the Child and Dependent Care Credit for the payments to your babysitter (Form 2441), which could offset some of the additional taxes you'll owe. But you'll need to get your babysitter's SSN and make sure everything is properly documented.
Would the Child and Dependent Care Credit still apply if the babysitter was watching my sister's kids at my house? I paid her but they weren't my dependents.
No, the Child and Dependent Care Credit only applies if you're paying for care for your own qualifying dependents (your children under 13 or disabled dependents/spouse). If you were paying for childcare for your sister's children and they aren't your dependents, you can't claim the credit. Your sister might be able to claim it though, if she can document that she reimbursed you for the childcare expenses and meets the other requirements for the credit.
StarGazer101
Be really careful about underwithholding! Two years ago I claimed 4 allowances (on the old W-4) thinking I'd just pay at tax time, and ended up with a $4300 bill PLUS a $420 underpayment penalty. Learned my lesson the hard way. The new W-4 is actually designed to be more accurate so you don't get big refunds OR big bills. Fill it out honestly and it should get you pretty close. If you want a little more in each check, you can use Step 4(b) to claim some deductions if you itemize, have student loan interest, or contribute to retirement accounts.
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Keisha Jackson
ā¢Does contributing to a 401k automatically reduce withholding or do I need to put that on my W-4 somewhere? My HR person was useless when I asked.
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StarGazer101
ā¢401k contributions automatically reduce your withholding because they reduce your taxable income before taxes are calculated on your paycheck. You don't need to put this on your W-4 specifically. However, if you have other deductions like mortgage interest, charitable giving, or student loan interest that aren't reflected in your paycheck, you can estimate their annual total and put that amount on line 4(b) of your W-4 to reduce withholding further.
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Paolo Romano
Has anyone tried those tax withholding calculators on TurboTax or H&R Block websites? Are they accurate or just trying to sell you something?
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Amina Diop
ā¢I tried both and they were ok but seemed to be pushing their paid services. The IRS withholding calculator is completely free and actually pretty good if your tax situation is straightforward. Doesn't work well with irregular income tho.
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