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For your multiple W-2 situation, I'd recommend setting up a spreadsheet to track your income and projected taxes throughout the year. I have 5 W-2 jobs and this helps me stay on top of things. You can input your pay from each job and calculate roughly what your total tax liability will be, then adjust your W-4s accordingly. Don't forget to account for the standard deduction ($13,850 for single filers in 2024).
Do you have a template for this spreadsheet you could share? I've been trying to figure out how to set one up but I'm not sure how to structure it with multiple income sources.
I don't have a shareable template, but here's how I structure mine: I create columns for each income source, then rows for each pay period. I sum these up to get my projected annual income. Then I calculate my taxable income (after standard deduction) and use the tax brackets to estimate my tax liability. I compare this to the total withholding from my pay stubs to see if I'm on track. The key is to update it after each paycheck so you can make adjustments to your withholding if needed. If you're not comfortable with tax brackets, there are IRS withholding calculators online that can help estimate your total tax more accurately.
For your LLC question - I have one LLC that covers my freelance writing, photography, and occasional consulting work. It's totally fine to have different income streams under one LLC. You'll just file one Schedule C but you can list multiple "business codes" if they're truly different categories. Makes bookkeeping way simpler than having multiple entities!
One thing nobody mentioned yet - have you considered a Section 83(b) election? If your company is still pre-IPO but IPO is imminent, filing an 83(b) election within 30 days of option exercise can be a game-changer for taxes.
I thought 83(b) elections were only for restricted stock, not stock options? Can you explain how that would work in my ISO situation?
You're absolutely right, and I should have been more precise. 83(b) elections apply to restricted stock awards (RSAs) or early exercises of unvested options, not standard ISO exercises as in your situation. For your situation with vested ISOs at a now-public company, you're dealing with the standard ISO tax rules that others have mentioned. Your main considerations are the timing of exercise relative to AMT implications and holding periods for qualifying dispositions. Apologies for the confusion.
Quick math check on your numbers - you mentioned strike price of $11 and current FMV of $257, with 1,000 options. That would be (257-11)*1000 = $246,000 in spread, not $257,000. Maybe a typo, but that's a $11k difference in potential tax calculations.
Have you looked into charitable remainder trusts? I'm in a similar income bracket ($1.4M last year) and this strategy has been really effective for me. Basically, you set up a trust that provides you income for a set period while giving a significant tax deduction now. The remainder eventually goes to charity. With proper planning, you can get an immediate large tax deduction while still maintaining income from the assets. Works especially well if you have appreciated assets or are planning to sell a business eventually.
This sounds interesting but a bit complex. Do you need a specialized attorney to set this up? And does it actually reduce your current tax liability significantly or is it more of a long-term strategy?
You definitely need a team including a tax attorney who specializes in charitable planning and an accountant familiar with these structures. The tax benefits are both immediate and long-term. The immediate benefit is a current year tax deduction based on the present value of the future gift to charity, which can be substantial depending on how you structure it. For example, when I placed $500k of appreciated assets into my CRUT, I received a deduction of about $175k in the year I established it, which directly reduced my current tax liability.
What type of business do you have? That makes a huge difference in available strategies. I've got a consulting business making about $900k and switching from pass-through to S-Corp status saved me about $30k in self-employment taxes alone.
I second the S-Corp recommendation! My accountant also had me set a reasonable salary at about 40% of my business income with the rest as distributions. Huge savings on SE tax. Talk to a good CPA about whether that might work for your specific business type.
I run a specialized software development firm focusing on financial services. Currently structured as an LLC taxed as a sole proprietorship. I've heard about the S-Corp strategy but wasn't sure if the administrative overhead was worth it. Sounds like the savings could be substantial though if you're saving $30k just on self-employment taxes. Do you find the added complexity with payroll and additional filings to be a major headache? And did you have to justify your salary-to-distribution ratio to the IRS at all?
The hybrid system proposal seems interesting in theory, but I worry about implementation complexity. The tax code is already a nightmare. I own a small manufacturing business in Michigan that sells to customers in 8 states, and compliance is already eating up so much of my time and money. For this to work, the technology piece has to be flawless. Most small businesses can't afford expensive tax consultants to figure out how to split taxes between origin and destination states. The proposal mentions tools like Avalara, but those aren't cheap for small operations. Maybe the 20% revenue allocation to producing states makes sense for giants like California and Texas, but what about smaller production states? Would the administrative costs eat up any benefit they'd receive?
That's a really good point about implementation costs for small businesses. Do you think a phased approach would work better? Maybe start with only high-value goods over $10,000 as they suggest for the pilot, then gradually expand if the systems prove manageable?
A phased approach would definitely make more sense. Starting with high-value goods creates a more manageable testing ground since there are fewer transactions to track and the tax revenue per transaction justifies the administrative effort. I think they'd also need to provide free compliance software for small businesses below a certain revenue threshold. South Dakota v. Wayfair actually mentioned the availability of affordable compliance software as one justification for allowing states to impose collection obligations on remote sellers. The same principle should apply here - if compliance is too burdensome, it could face legal challenges.
Has anyone else noticed that they didn't address the constitutional issues at all? The Commerce Clause and Due Process Clause have historically limited states' abilities to tax out-of-state entities. Even post-Wayfair, there are still significant constitutional constraints. The proposal talks about leveraging existing legal frameworks, but creating a hybrid system where producing states get tax revenue from consumption in other states seems like it would face immediate legal challenges. Also, what happens with imported goods? If I buy something manufactured in China but sold by a California company to me in Texas, which state gets the "producer" portion? The proposal doesn't seem to address international commerce at all.
Good points about imports. I work for a company that imports about 70% of our inventory from overseas, then distributes nationally. Under this system, would we be considered the "producer" state since we're the importer/distributor? Or would all imported goods follow a different rule? Without clarity on this, it seems like there'd be a massive loophole.
Salim Nasir
I don't think people realize that this interest rate decrease is actually following the Fed's rate cuts. The IRS doesn't just randomly decide to change their interest rates - federal short-term rates drive these changes. If you're wondering about previous rates, they've been: - Q4 2024: 8% - Q3 2024: 8% - Q2 2024: 8% - Q1 2024: 7% So we're basically returning to the rate from earlier this year. The IRS tends to lag behind Fed changes a bit because of their quarterly adjustment schedule.
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Hazel Garcia
β’Interesting! Do you know how this compares to standard credit card or loan interest rates? Is the IRS charging more or less than what a typical bank would charge for late payments?
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Salim Nasir
β’The IRS interest rate of 7% is significantly lower than most credit card interest rates, which typically range from 18-25% or even higher. It's also generally lower than personal loan rates, which average around 11-15% for most borrowers. This is actually why some financial advisors suggest that if you're facing both credit card debt and tax debt, it might make more sense to pay off the higher-interest credit cards first while setting up a payment plan with the IRS. However, keep in mind that while IRS interest rates are lower, they can also impose additional penalties beyond just interest, which can make the effective rate higher in some cases.
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Laila Fury
Does anyone know if this impacts the penalty rates too? Or is it just the interest portion that's changing? I got hit with both penalties AND interest last year when I couldn't pay my full tax bill, and I'm trying to figure out what I'll owe if I'm in the same situation this year.
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Geoff Richards
β’The failure-to-pay penalty is separate from interest and stays at 0.5% per month (up to 25% of the unpaid tax). This rate doesn't change quarterly like the interest rate does. So while your interest will be lower with this change, the penalty percentage stays the same if you can't pay on time. One tip though: If you set up an installment agreement with the IRS, that penalty rate gets cut in half to 0.25% per month instead of 0.5%. Definitely worth doing if you know you can't pay in full by the deadline.
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Laila Fury
β’Thanks for explaining! So basically I'll still get hit with the same penalties, but at least the interest portion will be slightly lower. I'll definitely look into setting up an installment agreement this time to get that penalty reduction. Every bit helps when you're trying to dig out of a tax hole.
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