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Everyone's giving great answers about the technical side, but here's a practical tip from someone who's been self-employed for years: set aside 25-30% of your gig income in a separate savings account with every payment you receive. That way when quarterly payments come due (or annual if you qualify for that), you've already got the money set aside. I learned this the hard way after my first year doing freelance work and having to scramble to find money for a big tax bill. Now I automatically transfer 30% of every payment into my "tax savings" and it's made everything so much less stressful.
That's actually a really smart system! Do you use any specific app or method to keep track of all your expenses throughout the year? I've just been keeping random receipts in a shoebox which probably isn't ideal lol.
I use a basic spreadsheet for tracking expenses, but I also take pictures of all receipts with my phone and organize them by month in a cloud folder. Way better than the shoebox method (which is what I started with too)! For mileage specifically, I recommend a dedicated app like MileIQ or Everlance that tracks your trips automatically. They're worth every penny come tax time since mileage is usually the biggest deduction for delivery gigs.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - the first year or two you have self-employment income, you can often get the underpayment penalty waived by filing Form 2210 and checking the box in Part II that says you had no tax liability last year. There's also a waiver for "unusual circumstances" if this is your first time dealing with self-employment tax. Not guaranteed, but the IRS can be surprisingly reasonable about this stuff if it's your first time making this mistake. Just make sure you start doing quarterly payments (or increase your W2 withholding) going forward.
This is super helpful! Is there any specific wording you'd recommend using when requesting the waiver for a first-timer with self-employment income?
I don't think people realize that this interest rate decrease is actually following the Fed's rate cuts. The IRS doesn't just randomly decide to change their interest rates - federal short-term rates drive these changes. If you're wondering about previous rates, they've been: - Q4 2024: 8% - Q3 2024: 8% - Q2 2024: 8% - Q1 2024: 7% So we're basically returning to the rate from earlier this year. The IRS tends to lag behind Fed changes a bit because of their quarterly adjustment schedule.
Interesting! Do you know how this compares to standard credit card or loan interest rates? Is the IRS charging more or less than what a typical bank would charge for late payments?
The IRS interest rate of 7% is significantly lower than most credit card interest rates, which typically range from 18-25% or even higher. It's also generally lower than personal loan rates, which average around 11-15% for most borrowers. This is actually why some financial advisors suggest that if you're facing both credit card debt and tax debt, it might make more sense to pay off the higher-interest credit cards first while setting up a payment plan with the IRS. However, keep in mind that while IRS interest rates are lower, they can also impose additional penalties beyond just interest, which can make the effective rate higher in some cases.
Does anyone know if this impacts the penalty rates too? Or is it just the interest portion that's changing? I got hit with both penalties AND interest last year when I couldn't pay my full tax bill, and I'm trying to figure out what I'll owe if I'm in the same situation this year.
The failure-to-pay penalty is separate from interest and stays at 0.5% per month (up to 25% of the unpaid tax). This rate doesn't change quarterly like the interest rate does. So while your interest will be lower with this change, the penalty percentage stays the same if you can't pay on time. One tip though: If you set up an installment agreement with the IRS, that penalty rate gets cut in half to 0.25% per month instead of 0.5%. Definitely worth doing if you know you can't pay in full by the deadline.
Thanks for explaining! So basically I'll still get hit with the same penalties, but at least the interest portion will be slightly lower. I'll definitely look into setting up an installment agreement this time to get that penalty reduction. Every bit helps when you're trying to dig out of a tax hole.
For your multiple W-2 situation, I'd recommend setting up a spreadsheet to track your income and projected taxes throughout the year. I have 5 W-2 jobs and this helps me stay on top of things. You can input your pay from each job and calculate roughly what your total tax liability will be, then adjust your W-4s accordingly. Don't forget to account for the standard deduction ($13,850 for single filers in 2024).
Do you have a template for this spreadsheet you could share? I've been trying to figure out how to set one up but I'm not sure how to structure it with multiple income sources.
I don't have a shareable template, but here's how I structure mine: I create columns for each income source, then rows for each pay period. I sum these up to get my projected annual income. Then I calculate my taxable income (after standard deduction) and use the tax brackets to estimate my tax liability. I compare this to the total withholding from my pay stubs to see if I'm on track. The key is to update it after each paycheck so you can make adjustments to your withholding if needed. If you're not comfortable with tax brackets, there are IRS withholding calculators online that can help estimate your total tax more accurately.
For your LLC question - I have one LLC that covers my freelance writing, photography, and occasional consulting work. It's totally fine to have different income streams under one LLC. You'll just file one Schedule C but you can list multiple "business codes" if they're truly different categories. Makes bookkeeping way simpler than having multiple entities!
One thing nobody mentioned yet - have you considered a Section 83(b) election? If your company is still pre-IPO but IPO is imminent, filing an 83(b) election within 30 days of option exercise can be a game-changer for taxes.
I thought 83(b) elections were only for restricted stock, not stock options? Can you explain how that would work in my ISO situation?
You're absolutely right, and I should have been more precise. 83(b) elections apply to restricted stock awards (RSAs) or early exercises of unvested options, not standard ISO exercises as in your situation. For your situation with vested ISOs at a now-public company, you're dealing with the standard ISO tax rules that others have mentioned. Your main considerations are the timing of exercise relative to AMT implications and holding periods for qualifying dispositions. Apologies for the confusion.
Quick math check on your numbers - you mentioned strike price of $11 and current FMV of $257, with 1,000 options. That would be (257-11)*1000 = $246,000 in spread, not $257,000. Maybe a typo, but that's a $11k difference in potential tax calculations.
CosmicCadet
Another option nobody's mentioned yet - you can also use the IRS Free File Fillable Forms to file an amended return if you don't want to pay TurboTax fees. It's more manual but completely free. You'll need to: 1. Download your original return from TurboTax for reference 2. Go to the IRS website and search for Free File Fillable Forms 3. Fill out Form 1040-X and include the corrected information with your 1099-G 4. Submit electronically (they now accept e-filed amended returns) The downside is you have to figure out all the calculations yourself, but if you're comfortable with basic math and following instructions, you can save the amendment fee.
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Natasha Petrova
β’Thanks for this suggestion! Do you know if the Free File Fillable Forms are user-friendly for someone who doesn't have much experience with tax forms? I'm a bit worried I'll mess something up if I try to do it all manually.
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CosmicCadet
β’The interface is definitely not as user-friendly as TurboTax. It's basically just the actual tax forms in electronic format with minimal guidance. There are some basic calculations built in, but it won't walk you through what to enter or provide explanations like commercial tax software does. If you're including something straightforward like a single 1099-G, it might be manageable. You'd essentially be copying most information from your original return and just adding the additional income. The key is to take your time and double-check everything. The IRS instructions for Form 1040-X are actually pretty detailed if you follow them carefully.
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Chloe Harris
Just to add one more option - if your 1099-G is for unemployment benefits from 2023, make absolutely sure you need to amend before going through all this trouble. There was a recent IRS announcement about unemployment tax treatment for 2023 that might affect whether you need to include this income at all.
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Diego Mendoza
β’Wait, are you saying some unemployment benefits might not be taxable for 2023? I thought that was only a 2020 thing during the height of COVID. Can you provide more details on this announcement?
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