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Yara Assad

Becoming partner in an S corp - tax implications for multi-million dollar buy-in

I'm in a crazy situation this tax year and could use some outside perspective. Got input from my regular CPA but want to make sure I'm not missing anything given how complex this is. So here's my situation: 1. I've been offered a partnership in an existing S corporation. The shares I'd be getting are worth approximately $2.6 million. 2. Last year I sold my own S corp that I ran for a decade. It was structured as an installment sale valued at roughly $2.5 million (I was sole member). 3. The company that bought my business only made a few payments before basically admitting they're broke. Their attorney reached out about bankruptcy proceedings. Pretty sure they took my business assets, leveraged them for crypto investments, and lost everything. The outlook isn't great. From my understanding, accepting the new partnership (#1) creates a massive taxable event with ordinary income tax on the $2.6 million. For #2, I'm looking at a potentially huge loss due to the buyer's bankruptcy, but since it's a long-term capital loss, it doesn't offset the ordinary income from the new partnership. My main questions: 1. Are there ways to structure the new partnership deal to avoid a ~$900K tax bill? I know vesting over time is one option, but are there more creative approaches that would be less financially painful? 2. Is there any way to make use of the massive capital loss from my previous business? Even if it can't directly offset the new partnership income, there must be some way to utilize such a significant loss?

Olivia Clark

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This is a complex situation, but you've got some options to consider. For your first question about structuring the partnership: Instead of receiving the shares outright as compensation (which would trigger ordinary income), you might consider a buy-in structure where you purchase your partnership interest. This creates a capital investment rather than compensation. The existing partners could also gift you a small portion of equity (up to annual gift tax exclusion) and let you buy the rest. Another approach is a profits interest instead of a capital interest. This gives you rights to future profits without the immediate tax hit on the current value. You'd only pay taxes on distributions as they come. For your second question about the capital loss: While you can't directly offset ordinary income with capital losses (beyond the $3,000 annual limit), you can carry those losses forward indefinitely to offset future capital gains. If your new partnership eventually sells or distributes appreciated assets to you, those losses could become very valuable. A key consideration: document everything about the failed installment sale carefully. You'll need to establish that the debt has become worthless to claim the loss.

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Wait, can you explain more about the profits interest vs capital interest thing? Does that mean OP wouldn't actually own part of the company itself but just get profit distributions? And would the $3k annual limit mean it would take literally 800+ years to use up a $2.5M capital loss?

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Olivia Clark

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A profits interest gives you the right to a percentage of future profits and appreciation without giving you immediate equity in the existing assets. So you'd participate in future growth but not the current $2.6M value, which avoids the immediate tax hit. You'd still be a partner for tax purposes with all the rights that come with it. Regarding the capital loss, the $3,000 limit only applies to offsetting ordinary income. There's no limit on using capital losses to offset capital gains. So if you have future capital gains from investments or business interests, you can use your entire loss carryforward against those gains, regardless of size.

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Amina Diallo

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GamerGirl99

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How does that service actually work? Do they just keep redialing until they get through? And does the IRS even provide specific guidance on structuring businesses or do they just tell you what the rules are?

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GamerGirl99

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Malik Jenkins

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One creative approach I haven't seen mentioned: have you considered a Deferred Compensation Plan for the partnership? Instead of receiving equity upfront, you could structure it so the S-Corp promises to transfer shares over time based on performance metrics. This spreads out the taxable events and potentially reduces overall tax burden if your tax bracket varies year to year. For your loss from the business sale, look into Form 1244 stock treatment if applicable. If you originally qualified, you might be able to treat a portion of your losses as ordinary rather than capital, which would help offset your income.

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Yara Assad

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The deferred compensation idea is interesting. Would that still give me voting rights and other partnership benefits from day one? Or would those phase in as the shares transfer? I'm concerned about having a say in business decisions if I'm taking on partnership responsibilities.

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Malik Jenkins

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You can structure the agreement to give you voting rights and management authority separate from the economic interest. Many partnerships have provisions where newer partners get full voting rights immediately but the economic interest transfers over time. The operating agreement can be drafted to give you authority in business decisions from day one while still deferring the actual ownership transfer for tax purposes. This separates the control aspects from the economic aspects, which is relatively common in professional service firms.

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Important question: Is the existing S-corp providing you these shares as compensation for services or are you buying in with your own money? The tax treatment is completely different. If they're compensating you with shares, that's ordinary income. If you're investing capital, you're creating basis in the shares without immediate tax consequences. From what you described, it sounds like they're gifting you equity as compensation, which creates the big tax hit. Consider restructuring as a capital contribution where you invest in the company (possibly with a loan to finance the purchase).

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Eduardo Silva

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Not OP but quick follow-up - if you're buying in with your own money, what's the point? Aren't you just trading cash for equity of equivalent value? Seems like a wash.

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Jay Lincoln

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@Eduardo Silva The point isn t'that you re'getting something for nothing - you re'right that it s'essentially a wash in terms of net worth. The benefit is avoiding the immediate tax hit on $2.6M of ordinary income. When you buy in with your own money, you re'creating basis in the shares without triggering a taxable event. The $2.6M becomes your cost basis, so you only pay taxes later when you sell or receive distributions above that basis. Compare that to receiving the shares as compensation, where you d'owe roughly $900K in taxes immediately as (OP mentioned but) have no cash to pay it. You d'be forced to take distributions from the company just to cover the tax bill, which creates a messy situation for everyone involved. @Freya Andersen is spot on - the structure matters way more than the economics here.

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