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One thing to watch out for with Marcus - they have different transfer limits depending on your account type and history. I've had my account for years and my limit is $100k daily, but my wife just opened hers last year and she can only do $25k per day. If your tax bill is large, you might hit those limits and need to split payments, which can be tricky through TurboTax. Might be worth checking your specific limit before proceeding.
Thanks for mentioning this! My tax payment is around $12k so hopefully that's under the limit, but I'll definitely check my account settings to make sure. Do you know if there are monthly limits too or just daily?
There are monthly limits as well, which are typically 3-4 times the daily limit in my experience. For a $12k payment you should be fine unless you've already made other large transfers this month. You can check your specific limits by logging into your Marcus account, going to the profile section, and looking at "Transfer Limits." It's usually shown right there, or you might need to click on account details depending on if you're using the app or website.
FYI - Marcus and TurboTax work together fine, but one tip: the payment doesn't show as "pending" in your Marcus account right away which freaks some people out. When I did mine last year, it took about 24 hours before the pending transaction appeared in my account, but the money was already earmarked. Don't panic if you don't see it immediately!
This is so true! I freaked out last year thinking my payment didn't go through, even called Marcus support. They explained that tax payments process differently than regular transfers. As long as you got the confirmation email from TurboTax, you should be good.
This is super helpful! I was just checking my Marcus account and didn't see anything pending yet, so was starting to worry. I'll give it a day before I start panicking. Thanks for sharing that!
Make sure you respond to that notice ASAP! I ignored a similar notice thinking I could deal with it later and ended up with a tax lien that destroyed my credit score. It took me years to recover financially. The interest and penalties also keep adding up every month you don't address it.
Yikes, that's scary. Do you know if the payment plan stops the penalties from accumulating? I'm definitely calling them this week.
The payment plan doesn't completely stop penalties and interest, but it does prevent further collection actions like liens and levies as long as you keep making payments. The failure-to-pay penalty drops from 0.5% to 0.25% per month when you're on a plan, which helps a little. Interest (currently around 5%) continues regardless. Still way better than ignoring it though - I learned that lesson the hard way!
check if you qualify for first time penalty abatement! if you had a clean tax record before 2021 (filed and paid on time for previous years) you can often get the penalties removed. saved me about $1200 on a tax bill last year. doesn't help with the base tax or interest but still better than nothing.
This is great advice! I got first-time abatement for a similar situation. Just call the IRS and specifically ask for "first-time penalty abatement" - many agents won't offer it unless you specifically request it.
Something that confused me when I was doing estimated taxes was that the line numbers changed from 2018 to 2019 to 2020. For 2018 returns, total tax was on line 15, for 2019 it was line 16, and for 2020 it's line 24. The IRS keeps reorganizing the 1040 form, so make sure you're looking at the right line for the right year!
Thank you all for the helpful responses! I checked my 2020 return and found line 24 showing my total tax liability. Just to confirm, this is the amount I should use to make sure I've paid enough for 2021 through the combination of withholding and estimated payments, right?
Exactly right! Line 24 from your 2020 return is the number you should use as your target for total 2021 payments (both withholding and estimated payments combined). If your income in 2020 was less than $150,000, you need to pay 100% of that line 24 amount. If your 2020 income was over $150,000, you need to pay 110% of that line 24 amount to hit the safe harbor protection against underpayment penalties.
Don't forget if you're self-employed, you might also need to look at Schedule SE for the self-employment tax portion of your liability, although that gets rolled into the total tax on line 24 anyway. Self-employment tax can be a nasty surprise the first time you deal with it!
For what it's worth, I'm a tax preparer and see this kind of thing ALL THE TIME. If you didn't sell the stocks (no capital gains) and didn't receive significant dividends (which would have generated a 1099-DIV), then there's virtually no impact on your tax situation. Technically, yes, you should have answered "yes" to owning stocks, but that question is mainly there to prompt you to report any taxable events from those stocks. Since you didn't have any taxable events from them, your tax liability remains the same.
This is so helpful to hear from someone who does this professionally! So I guess the next question is - should I file an amended return just to correct that one "no" to a "yes" even if it doesn't change anything tax-wise? Or is that overkill?
Filing an amended return just to change a "no" to "yes" when there's no tax impact would be complete overkill. The IRS is concerned with collecting the correct amount of tax, and in your case, the correct amount is exactly what you already reported. If you had missed reporting actual income or deductions that changed your tax liability, then yes, you'd want to amend. But for an informational question with no financial impact? Save yourself the hassle. Just remember next year to answer "yes" to that question if you still own those stocks.
When I was new to taxes I accidentally claimed a college credit I wasn't eligible for. THAT was a real mistake that got me a letter from the IRS. They don't generally bother you over technicalities that don't change what you owe. The stocks thing sounds like a non-issue to me.
Same! I claimed the wrong education credit once and the IRS sent me a very scary letter. But they were actually pretty reasonable about fixing it. I just had to pay back the difference plus a small interest amount.
Lena Schultz
Here's what I'd do in your situation - file the extension ASAP, then file all your back tax returns first before filing 2024. I had to do this last year. File Form 4868 for the extension. Then gather up your documents for the prior years and file those returns. Even if you made very little, you should still file. For the years with stock losses, those can actually help you if documented properly since you can carry forward capital losses. Once your prior years are filed, THEN file your 2024 return and request a payment plan. The IRS is usually pretty reasonable if you're making an effort to comply. You can set up a plan online for up to 72 months.
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Rosie Harper
ā¢That makes a lot of sense. For the prior years, should I try to file them all at once or do them one by one? And for the stock losses, do you know how many years I can carry those forward? I lost quite a bit in 2021-2022.
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Lena Schultz
ā¢You can file them all at once - that's actually better since it shows you're making a comprehensive effort to get compliant. Just make sure each year is in its own separate envelope if mailing them. For capital losses, you can deduct up to $3,000 per year against ordinary income, and carry forward any excess losses indefinitely until they're used up. So those 2021-2022 losses could potentially offset your income for several years to come, which might really help with your current tax situation.
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Gemma Andrews
Let me save you some stress - file the extension but don't panic about an audit. The IRS is primarily focused on high-income taxpayers right now, not freelancers who owe $13k. The audit rate for self-employed people making under $100k is extremely low, like less than 0.4%. Just make sure you report all your Upwork income (they issue 1099s that the IRS gets copies of). Filing an extension is totally normal too - millions of people do it every year. As long as you're not hiding income or claiming crazy deductions, your audit risk is minimal.
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Pedro Sawyer
ā¢This isn't entirely accurate advice. While audit rates are low for most people, failing to file returns for several years does significantly increase your chances of getting IRS attention, regardless of income level. The IRS does have automated systems that flag non-filers.
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