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Ravi Sharma

Why is my dental insurance causing my taxes to increase? Self-employed tax help needed

I'm a freelance graphic designer and have been getting my health insurance through the marketplace. I correctly entered all the info from my 1095-A form into TaxAct for my health coverage. But here's the weird part - I also pay for a separate dental plan through Aetna Dental that I thought would be included somewhere on those forms, but it's not showing up anywhere. When I tried to enter my dental premiums ($84/month) as a business expense since I'm self-employed, my refund actually dropped by about $215! I was expecting it to increase my refund, not reduce it. I'm so confused about what could be happening here. Is there something I'm missing about how dental insurance affects self-employment taxes? Or am I entering this wrong somewhere?

NebulaNomad

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The issue you're experiencing is likely related to how the premium tax credit is calculated when you're self-employed. Here's what's probably happening: When you deduct your dental insurance as a business expense on Schedule C, it reduces your self-employment income. That's generally a good thing, but it has a ripple effect. Lower self-employment income means your adjusted gross income (AGI) is lower. When your AGI decreases, you might qualify for a larger premium tax credit for your marketplace health insurance. However, if you already received an advance premium tax credit throughout the year (which is common with marketplace plans), the reconciliation is what's causing your refund to decrease. Essentially, the tax software is recalculating everything and determining you received the proper amount of advance credit based on your now-lower income. Try this: Look at your Form 8962 (Premium Tax Credit) before and after entering the dental expenses. You'll likely see changes there that explain the decrease in your refund.

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Freya Thomsen

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Wait I'm confused... so deducting a business expense is actually HURTING this person's tax situation? Isn't the whole point of business deductions to LOWER your tax bill? How does that make any sense?

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NebulaNomad

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The deduction itself isn't hurting them - it's the interaction with the premium tax credit that's creating this unusual situation. Business deductions do lower your tax bill in isolation, but tax calculations don't happen in isolation. When your income changes, it affects multiple calculations at once. In this case, the dental expense deduction lowers self-employment tax and income tax, which is good. But it also changes the premium tax credit calculation. If you already received advance payments of that credit based on a higher estimated income, you might need to pay some back when your actual income is lower than expected.

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Make sure you're entering the dental premiums in the right place. For self-employed folks with marketplace plans, there's a specific way to handle this. You can claim the self-employed health insurance deduction (which includes dental) on Schedule 1, line 17. This is different from claiming it as a business expense on Schedule C. Try removing it from your business expenses and entering it as a self-employed health insurance deduction instead. That might solve the weird interaction with your premium tax credit.

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Ravi Sharma

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Thank you! I'm going to try this approach. I had it on Schedule C under "insurance (other than health)" which maybe was the wrong spot? Do I need to itemize deductions to claim it on Schedule 1, or can I still take the standard deduction?

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Yes, that was definitely the wrong spot! The "insurance (other than health)" category on Schedule C is for business insurance like liability or professional insurance, not personal health or dental coverage. You don't need to itemize to claim the self-employed health insurance deduction on Schedule 1. It's an "above the line" deduction, meaning you can take it even if you claim the standard deduction. This is much better for most people. Just make sure when the tax software asks about self-employed health insurance premiums, you include both your health AND dental premiums together.

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Zara Ahmed

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Has anyone else noticed that TurboTax doesn't give very clear guidance on this? I had the same issue last year and ended up calling them. The support rep told me to enter dental as a separate type of insurance in the self-employed health insurance section, not as a business expense. That fixed the weird tax credit interaction for me.

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Luca Esposito

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I switched to FreeTaxUSA last year and they actually have better explanations for self-employed health insurance. They specifically ask about dental and vision plans separately and explain how it affects the premium tax credit. Saved me about $50 compared to what I was paying for TurboTax too.

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Zara Ahmed

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Thanks for the tip! I might try FreeTaxUSA next year. TurboTax keeps raising their prices and their self-employed version still has these weird gaps in explanations. I just want software that walks me through these complicated situations without having to spend hours researching or calling support.

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Zainab Ismail

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I went through this exact same situation two years ago and it was so frustrating! The issue is definitely how dental premiums interact with the premium tax credit calculation. Here's what I learned after working with a tax professional: When you're self-employed and have marketplace health insurance, your dental premiums should go on Schedule 1 (line 17) as part of the self-employed health insurance deduction, NOT as a business expense on Schedule C. This is crucial because business expenses reduce your AGI, which can mess with your premium tax credit eligibility. The reason your refund dropped is probably because lowering your AGI made you eligible for a larger premium tax credit than what you already received as advance payments. So now you have to pay some of that back, which reduces your refund even though you're getting the dental deduction. Try moving the dental premiums from Schedule C to the self-employed health insurance deduction section. You should see the numbers work out much better. The dental deduction will still reduce your taxes, but it won't trigger the premium tax credit reconciliation issue.

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