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Pedro Sawyer

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This is slightly off-topic, but has anyone been audited for ERTC claims? My S-Corp got the refund for 2020-2021 (about $62k), and I'm working on the amendments now, but I'm hearing horror stories about aggressive audits specifically targeting ERTC. I'm reducing the wage expense by the full amount as others have said, but I'm worried about whether our original claim will be scrutinized. We had a 37% revenue drop in the qualifying quarters, so I think we're solid, but these rumors about audits have me nervous.

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Mae Bennett

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Our company was selected for review (not a full audit) about 4 months after receiving our ERTC. They mostly wanted documentation proving our revenue decline and that we had eligible wages. We provided quarterly P&Ls, bank statements, and payroll records. After about 6 weeks they closed the review with no changes. Just keep good documentation!

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Justin Trejo

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I went through this exact same situation with my S-Corp last year! The key thing to remember is that you reduce wage expenses by the FULL ERTC amount you received (minus any interest). This includes both the refundable and nonrefundable portions. When I was doing my amendments, I made the mistake initially of only reducing by the refundable portion, but my CPA caught it and explained that the IRS considers the entire credit as essentially reimbursing wages you already deducted. You can't get a tax benefit twice for the same expense. Make sure you're amending the correct tax years - so if you got credits for 2020 Q2-Q4 and 2021 Q1-Q3, you'll need separate amended 1120S forms for each year. Also, don't forget that these wage expense reductions will flow through to your K-1 and affect your personal return too. Good luck with getting everything sorted before your accountant gets back! Having all your documentation organized will definitely make that meeting go much smoother.

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Nia Williams

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Thanks for sharing your experience! This is really helpful. I'm curious - when the wage expense reductions flowed through to your K-1, did it significantly impact your personal tax liability? I'm trying to estimate what the effect will be on my individual return since the reduced business expenses will increase my pass-through income. Also, did you have to make any estimated tax payments to cover the additional tax from the increased K-1 income, or were you able to handle it at year-end filing?

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Great question! Yes, it did impact my personal return since the reduced wage expenses increased my pass-through income from the S-Corp. In my case, the $78k ERTC reduction added about that same amount to my K-1 ordinary business income. The tax impact wasn't as bad as I initially feared though, because you have to remember you're essentially trading the wage expense deduction for the ERTC refund you already received. So while your taxable income goes up, you got that cash refund to help cover the additional taxes. I didn't make estimated payments because I discovered this late in the year, but I did have to pay some additional tax at filing. My advice would be to calculate the estimated impact now and consider making a quarterly payment if the amount is significant - better to be safe than pay underpayment penalties. Your accountant can help you run the numbers once they're back from vacation.

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Think of the 'still processing' message like a waiting room at a doctor's office. You're in the building, but not yet with the doctor. Your return is like a patient in that waiting room - it's in the IRS system, but not actively being reviewed by an agent yet. Have you tried checking your tax transcript instead? Sometimes it shows more detailed status information than the WMR tool, similar to how a nurse might check your vitals before the doctor sees you.

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I've been dealing with this same situation for about 12 weeks now. Filed my amended return in December to claim some missed deductions, and it's been stuck on "still processing" ever since. What I've learned from calling the IRS (after multiple 3+ hour wait times) is that the message really is just a generic placeholder. The agent told me my return is actually in their "Error Resolution System" which handles all amended returns, and they work through them in the order received. She couldn't give me a specific timeline but confirmed it was moving through their system normally. The frustrating part is that unlike regular returns where you get status updates, amended returns basically stay silent until they're done. I've started checking my transcript weekly instead of the "Where's My Amended Return" tool since it sometimes shows processing codes before the online status changes.

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Noah Irving

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Thanks for sharing your experience with the Error Resolution System - I had no idea that's what they called it! The 12 week wait must be incredibly frustrating, especially when you're expecting those deductions. I'm curious, when you check your transcript weekly, are there specific codes you look for that might indicate progress? I just filed my first amended return last month and I'm already getting anxious about the long wait ahead.

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Ravi Kapoor

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Another option you could consider is forming an S-Corp instead of a partnership. That would allow you to be both an owner AND an employee. You could take a reasonable W-2 salary (saving on SE tax for amounts above that salary) and then take distributions for the rest of your share. Obviously there are other factors to consider with entity selection, but I switched from a partnership to an S-Corp specifically because of this salary issue and it's saved me thousands in self-employment taxes.

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Yara Khalil

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We actually considered the S-Corp route but decided against it because my partner wants certain tax loss pass-through benefits that work better in a partnership structure. But you're right that it would solve the salary situation more cleanly!

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S-corps come with their own headaches though. You have to run actual payroll, file separate employment tax returns quarterly, and deal with more administrative overhead. For smaller businesses, the SE tax savings might not outweigh the additional compliance costs.

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I went through this exact situation when I started my consulting partnership. The guaranteed payment route that Keisha mentioned is definitely the right approach - it's specifically designed for situations like yours where one partner is doing the operational work. One thing I'd add is to make sure your partnership agreement specifies that these guaranteed payments are made regardless of partnership profitability. This protects your monthly income even if the business has a slow period. We learned this the hard way when our first quarter was rough and my partner questioned whether I should still get paid. Also, consider setting up a separate business checking account just for your guaranteed payments. It makes the bookkeeping much cleaner and helps with quarterly tax planning. I transfer 35% of each payment to a tax savings account immediately - better to overestimate than get hit with penalties. The IRS has some good examples in Publication 541 that show exactly how guaranteed payments work in different scenarios. Worth reading before you finalize your partnership agreement!

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Ryder Greene

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This is really helpful advice about protecting the guaranteed payments regardless of profitability! I hadn't thought about that scenario but you're absolutely right - we need to make sure the agreement is clear that these payments continue even during lean months. The separate checking account idea is brilliant too. Right now we're just planning to use our main business account for everything, but I can see how tracking would get messy quickly. Did you set up the tax savings account under your personal name or keep it as a business account? I'll definitely check out Publication 541 - thanks for the specific reference! It sounds like there are a lot of nuances to get right in the partnership agreement language.

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Vera Visnjic

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Just a quick heads up that the penalties for not filing Form 8865 when required are pretty brutal. We missed filing it for our Australian partnership and got hit with a $10,000 penalty per year plus reduced foreign tax credits. If you have any doubt at all, it's better to file the form than risk the penalties.

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Seriously, the penalties are no joke. My client got hit with $25,000 in penalties for a 2-year missed filing. Even though the original post is about a domestic partnership (which doesn't need 8865), if anyone reading this DOES have foreign partnerships, don't mess around with this form.

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Mae, you're absolutely right to be confused - this is one of those areas where the terminology can be really misleading! To add to what others have said, the IRS definition of "foreign partnership" is very specific and literal - it's only about where the partnership entity was legally formed/organized, period. Your Delaware LLC is definitely domestic for tax purposes. However, there are a couple of additional things to keep in mind with a foreign partner: 1. Your partnership will likely need an EIN if you don't already have one 2. You'll need to determine if your UK partner has a US tax identification number (ITIN or SSN) for the K-1 3. As others mentioned, there may be withholding requirements under Section 1446 depending on your business activities The good news is that having a foreign partner in a domestic partnership is actually pretty common and well-established in tax practice. Just make sure you're working with someone who understands the withholding rules - that's usually where people trip up, not on the Form 8865 question you originally asked about.

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Has anyone here tried connecting their accounting software with their bank? My CPA recommended it but I'm worried about security issues.

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Khalil Urso

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I've had my QuickBooks connected to my business checking and credit cards for three years with no problems. The time saved on manual entry is HUGE. Just make sure you still review the auto-categorization because it gets things wrong sometimes. I set aside 15 minutes every Monday to check the previous week's transactions.

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This is such an encouraging story! As someone who also struggled with QuickBooks initially, I can totally relate to that feeling of everything just "swimming together." The balance sheet was like a foreign language to me. I'm curious - what specific AI tool did you end up using? I've been hesitant to try AI for accounting stuff because I wasn't sure how reliable it would be for financial decisions. But your experience sounds really positive, especially the part about being able to ask follow-up questions without judgment. For other woodworkers reading this - did you find any industry-specific challenges when setting up your books? I'm thinking about things like tracking raw materials inventory, handling custom orders, or dealing with the seasonal nature of some woodworking businesses. Would love to hear how you approached those aspects!

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Hey Everett! I'm not the original poster, but I wanted to jump in since I've been following this thread closely as someone also new to small business accounting. The woodworking inventory question really resonates with me - I run a small craft business and tracking raw materials has been one of my biggest challenges. From what I've learned lurking in various business forums, many woodworkers struggle with properly valuing their inventory, especially when you have partially completed projects sitting around. I'm really curious about the AI tool Josef used too. There seem to be several options mentioned in this thread (like taxr.ai), but I'd love to hear more specifics about which one actually helped with the conceptual understanding rather than just fixing errors. The "no judgment" aspect you mentioned sounds incredibly valuable for someone like me who's still learning the basics. Have you found any good resources specifically for creative/craft businesses? I feel like the standard accounting advice doesn't always translate well to our type of operations.

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