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One thing nobody mentioned yet - you might need to pay quarterly estimated taxes if you expect to owe more than $1,000 in taxes for the year. This is especially important for self-employment since you don't have an employer withholding taxes. Self-employment tax is about 15.3% on top of regular income tax, which catches a lot of first-timers by surprise. Google "1040-ES" for the forms you need.
This! I got hit with a penalty my first year doing OnlyFans because I didn't know about quarterly payments. Had to pay extra when I could have just been paying as I went.
Hey Giovanni! I was in a similar situation when I started my photography side hustle in college. Here's what I wish someone had told me upfront: You're absolutely right to want to handle this yourself - it's actually pretty straightforward once you understand the basics. Even if you only make a few hundred dollars, you should report it. The good news is that as a student, you likely won't owe much in actual taxes, but you will need to pay self-employment tax (about 15.3%) on any profit over $400. Here's my simplified checklist for you: 1. Keep detailed records of ALL payments (screenshots work fine) 2. Track any business expenses (phone bill, props, etc.) 3. You'll file Schedule C with your regular tax return 4. If you make over $1,000 profit, start making quarterly payments to avoid penalties The payment app thing is confusing - they'll send you a 1099-K if you receive over $600, but you need to report everything regardless of whether you get that form. Pro tip: Open a separate bank account just for this income if possible. Makes tracking everything so much easier come tax time. You got this! šŖ
This is such great advice! The separate bank account tip is genius - I never thought about that but it would make everything so much cleaner to track. Quick question about the quarterly payments - if I'm just starting out and not sure how much I'll make this year, how do I even estimate what to pay? Like should I just guess based on my first few months? Also, when you say "profit over $400" for self-employment tax, does that mean I can subtract my expenses first before calculating that $400 threshold?
I'm really confused by all this ERTC amendment stuff... My CPA told me the reduction should only be for the refundable portion, not the nonrefundable part. But now I'm reading conflicting advice here. Does anyone have an actual IRS reference that clarifies this?
Your CPA is incorrect. According to IRS Notice 2021-20, the wage expense deduction must be reduced by the FULL amount of the ERTC (both refundable and nonrefundable). Specifically, section III.L of the notice addresses this. The rule prevents a double tax benefit (getting both the credit AND the deduction for the same wages).
I went through this exact same situation with my S-Corp last year and can confirm what others have said - you need to reduce wage expenses by the FULL ERTC amount (both refundable and nonrefundable portions), excluding any interest received. The key thing to remember is that the ERTC is essentially the government reimbursing you for wages you paid, so you can't also deduct those same wages as a business expense. It would be double-dipping. For your $87k in 2020 and $112k in 2021 refunds, make sure you separate out any interest portion before calculating the wage expense reduction. The interest is taxable income but doesn't affect the wage deduction adjustment. One heads up - this will create a significant increase in your pass-through income, which means additional personal tax liability when you amend your 1040s. With amounts that large, you might want to consider making estimated payments to avoid underpayment penalties. The amendment process can take several months, so plan accordingly for the cash flow impact.
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm new to dealing with ERTC amendments and the double-dipping concept makes total sense now. Quick question - when you say "separate out any interest portion," how do you identify that on the refund documentation? My refund checks just show the total amounts, and I want to make sure I'm calculating the wage expense reduction correctly.
Good question! The interest portion should be detailed on the IRS Notice CP49 or similar notice that accompanied your refund. If you don't have that documentation, you can also call the IRS at their Business & Specialty Tax Line to get a breakdown of principal vs. interest amounts. Generally, if your ERTC refund came more than 45 days after filing, there's likely some interest included. The interest amount will be reported to you on Form 1099-INT for tax purposes, but it doesn't reduce your wage expense adjustment - only the actual credit amount does. For your amendments, use the full credit amount (excluding interest) to reduce your wage expenses on lines 7/8 of Form 1120S. The interest gets reported as "other income" on your business return but doesn't affect the wage deduction calculation.
My accountant always tells me to focus on the "ordinary and necessary" test for business expenses rather than just the timing. If this conference is ordinary and necessary for your business type, the IRS is less likely to question it regardless of when you deduct it. Just make sure you have good documentation showing how it relates to your business - things like the conference agenda, notes you took, business cards you collected, etc. This has saved me multiple times during reviews.
This is exactly the kind of timing question that trips up so many small business owners! The key thing to remember is that for most small businesses using cash accounting, you generally deduct expenses in the year you both pay for them AND receive the economic benefit. Since your conference is in September 2025 and you're not paying until then, that's clearly a 2025 deduction. Even if you had prepaid in 2024, the IRS could still argue the economic performance doesn't occur until you actually attend the conference. One thing I'd add to the great advice already given - consider keeping a simple spreadsheet of planned business expenses like this so you can do better tax planning for next year. Knowing you'll have that conference deduction in 2025 might influence other timing decisions you make with income and expenses. Also, don't forget that if you travel for the conference, those travel expenses (flights, hotels, 50% of meals) are also deductible business expenses for the same tax year as the conference itself.
Don't forget there's also the "material participation" test for businesses. The IRS looks at whether you're actively involved in the operations on a regular, continuous, and substantial basis. For a side gig like yours, you'll want to keep good records of time spent working on your business. I track hours for my consulting work using a simple app. This helps support business classification if the IRS ever questions it.
I'm curious how many hours you need to qualify as "material participation"? Is there a specific number the IRS looks for? I only spend maybe 5-6 hours a week on my online business.
There's no absolute minimum hour requirement, but one test for material participation is 500 hours per year (roughly 10 hours weekly). However, that's just one of seven possible tests. You can also qualify if your participation was "substantially all" the participation in the activity (meaning you did most of the work), or if you participated more than 100 hours and that was as much as anyone else. For most side businesses where you're the only person involved, you're likely meeting the material participation standard even at 5-6 hours weekly.
Friendly reminder that the business vs. hobby distinction isn't just about which one saves you more in taxes right now! If you genuinely have a profit motive and are running this as a business, you should file as a business even if it might cost more in taxes. Filing as a hobby when it's really a business can cause problems later if you get audited. Plus, business losses can sometimes offset other income, and you're building Social Security credits with self-employment taxes.
What about if you have losses for several years? I've been running my art business for 3 years and haven't turned a profit yet. Tax preparer said IRS might reclassify it as a hobby?
William Rivera
Based on my experience working with tax clients, what you're experiencing is likely an ACH processing delay. The Treasury Financial Management Service (FMS) initiates the ACH transaction, but it must pass through the Federal Reserve's processing system before reaching your financial institution. This typically takes 24-48 hours after your DDD, but can extend to 5 business days during peak tax season without indicating any problem. If your bank isn't showing a pending deposit by day 5 post-DDD, that's when you should request a payment trace through the IRS.
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Destiny Bryant
I'm going through the exact same thing right now! My transcript shows the 846 code with today's date, and I've been refreshing my banking app every hour like it's going to magically appear. It's so frustrating when you're counting on that money. From what I'm reading here, it sounds like this delay is more common than the IRS lets on. I think I'm going to give it until Monday before I start panicking - thanks everyone for sharing your experiences, it really helps to know I'm not alone in this!
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