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Does anyone know if there are gift tax implications for the person GIVING the stocks/crypto? I know there's an annual gift tax exclusion but I'm not sure how it applies to investments versus cash.
The annual gift tax exclusion is $17,000 per recipient for 2023 (going up to $18,000 for 2024). This applies to the fair market value of ANY gift, including stocks or crypto. So if you gift investments worth more than that amount to one person, you need to file a gift tax return (Form 709), though you probably won't owe actual gift tax unless you've used up your lifetime exemption.
This is such great information! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation where my grandmother wants to gift me some mutual fund shares she's held for over 5 years. Based on what everyone's shared here, it sounds like I'd inherit her holding period, which is fantastic since I might need to sell them within the next year for graduate school expenses. One follow-up question though - does anyone know if there are any special considerations when the gift involves mutual funds versus individual stocks? I'm wondering if the dividend reinvestment over the years complicates the cost basis calculation at all, or if it's handled the same way as regular stock gifts. Also really appreciate the mentions of the various tools and services people have used - this stuff can get pretty complex and it's reassuring to know there are resources available when you need professional guidance!
Has anyone used TurboTax or other tax software to handle territorial tax situations? I'm moving to Puerto Rico next month and trying to figure out the best way to handle my taxes.
Great question about the income threshold! The $75,000 limit exists because the IRS recognizes that lower-income bona fide residents pose minimal tax compliance risk. Most tax evasion schemes involve higher amounts, so focusing resources on tracking higher earners makes sense administratively. Your approach of keeping good documentation is smart. I'd recommend maintaining: - Annual territorial tax returns - Documentation of days spent in the territory vs mainland - Employment records showing work location - Bank statements showing primary financial activity in the territory The information sharing between IRS and territorial tax authorities isn't perfect, but it does exist. If you ever get questioned, your territorial tax filing history will be your strongest defense. Since you're consistently under the threshold and filing locally, you're doing everything correctly. One thing to consider - if your income approaches $75,000 in future years, you might want to file Form 8898 voluntarily just to establish the paper trail before it becomes required.
This is really helpful advice! I'm new to understanding territorial tax situations and had no idea about the day-counting documentation. When you mention "days spent in the territory vs mainland" - is there a specific ratio or test that determines bona fide residency? I'm planning a move to one of the territories next year and want to make sure I establish proper residency from the start. Also, regarding the voluntary Form 8898 filing when approaching the threshold - would filing it early create any obligations or trigger additional scrutiny from the IRS?
Military tax specialist here. For ID.me verification with address mismatch issues: ⢠Military members can use their military ID + PCS orders as primary verification ⢠You can request a "military exception" in the ID.me system by clicking "verify by video call" ⢠The video agent can accept your military ID even with old address ⢠If using the phone verification, mention Code 2501-M (military verification protocol) ⢠Average processing time after military verification: 14-21 days Don't stress too much - this happens to about 30% of military filers after a PCS!
Thank you so much Dylan for the Code 2501-M tip! I had no idea that existed. I'm definitely going to try the video call option with ID.me first since that sounds like the most straightforward approach. It's reassuring to know this is such a common issue for military families - I was starting to worry I'd done something wrong with my filing. Quick follow-up question: when you mention the 14-21 day processing time after verification, is that from when ID.me completes the verification, or from when the IRS receives it? Just trying to set realistic expectations for my family since we're really counting on this refund right now. Thanks again for the detailed breakdown!
Hey Tyrone! Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this process recently. The 14-21 day timeline Dylan mentioned is usually from when ID.me sends the verification confirmation to the IRS, not from when you complete the video call. So there can be a 1-3 day delay between your successful ID.me verification and when the IRS actually receives and processes it. I'd recommend checking your WMR status about 3-4 days after your ID.me verification is complete to see if the hold has been lifted. If you don't see movement after a week, that's when I'd call the IRS directly. Hope this helps ease some of the uncertainty while you're waiting! @f4ad134a031c thanks for sharing that military code - that's incredibly useful information that more service members need to know about.
yall ever wonder if our tax returns just end up in some giant pile and they pick them out randomly to process? š feels that way sometimes
Two weeks is still pretty normal for mail processing! I know the waiting is stressful, but here's what helped me last year: if you're really worried, you can call the IRS at 1-800-829-1040 and ask if they've received your return (though expect to wait on hold). Also, keep copies of everything you mailed - if it somehow gets lost, you'll need those to refile. The good news is that most mailed returns do make it through the system, it just takes longer than e-filing. Hang in there! š¬
Ravi Choudhury
This is exactly what happened to us too! We got my husband's Letter 6419 first showing $450, then mine came about 10 days later with another $450. At first I panicked thinking we only received half of what we were supposed to get for our son. The IRS Customer Service portal at irs.gov confirmed we had received the full $900 in advance payments, just split evenly between us. When we filed jointly, we entered both amounts and everything processed smoothly. Pro tip: If you're using tax software, make sure you enter each spouse's 6419 amount in the correct field rather than just putting the total in one spot. The software needs to see how the payments were allocated between you two for proper reporting.
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DeShawn Washington
ā¢That's really helpful to know about entering the amounts in separate fields! I was wondering if I could just add them together and put the total in one spot, but it makes sense that the software needs to track how the IRS allocated the payments between spouses. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to hear that everything processed smoothly when you filed correctly.
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Kai Rivera
This happened to us as well! We received my Letter 6419 showing $600 for our two kids, but my spouse's letter didn't arrive for nearly three weeks. I was getting worried about filing deadlines. What really helped was calling the IRS using one of those callback services mentioned earlier in this thread - saved me hours of sitting on hold. The representative confirmed that married couples filing jointly do indeed get separate letters with the payments split 50/50, even if only one spouse has income. She also mentioned that if one letter gets lost in the mail, you can still file using the online portal information as long as you report the correct total amount you actually received. Just make sure your tax software has separate entry fields for each spouse's 6419 amount - don't try to combine them into one field or it might cause processing delays. For anyone still waiting on their second letter, I'd recommend checking that IRS Child Tax Credit portal first to see your total payments, then decide if you want to wait or just file with that information.
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