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For the original question - I've been through this exact situation with my own kids. The way I understand it, the months question is really just establishing whether your child meets the residency test for being your qualifying child (living with you for more than half the year). Since you and your ex already have an agreement about who claims the child each year, you can just put 12 months in TurboTax (since the child does live with you part of each month). This won't cause any problems even though your ex is claiming the child this year. I went through this with my tax guy and he explained that what matters is your written agreement with your ex about who claims the child in which years. The IRS just wants to make sure you're not both trying to claim the same dependent.
What if there isn't a formal written agreement? My ex and I just verbally agreed I get odd years, she gets even years for claiming our son. Should we put something in writing?
You should definitely put something in writing. It doesn't have to be anything fancy or notarized - just a simple document that both of you sign stating which years each of you will claim the child as a dependent. Having it in writing protects both of you if there's ever a dispute or if the IRS questions either of your returns. Without documentation, these verbal agreements can lead to problems if one parent decides to claim the child in a year they weren't supposed to. The IRS won't get involved in your custody dispute - they'll just follow their tiebreaker rules, which might not align with your verbal agreement.
Something nobody mentioned yet - if you're not claiming the child as a dependent this year, make sure you check the box in TurboTax that says "Someone else can claim this dependent" when you enter their information. That way the software knows not to claim them on your return even though you're providing their info.
Yeah this is important! I made this mistake last year and both my ex and I claimed our daughter. Created a huge headache with the IRS and we had to amend returns. Double check that box!!
Exactly! That little checkbox makes all the difference. When you check it, TurboTax will still ask all the questions about the child living with you because that information is still relevant for other tax benefits like filing status. But checking that box ensures you won't both claim the same dependent, which would trigger an automatic review from the IRS.
Don't overlook state estate taxes too! Federal estate tax has a high exemption amount ($12.92 million for 2023), but some states have much lower thresholds. I learned this the hard way with my mother's estate - we were under the federal limit but got hit with a state estate tax bill we weren't expecting.
As of 2023, twelve states plus DC have estate taxes: Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, and the District of Columbia. Michigan doesn't have a state estate tax, so you're fortunate there! The exemption thresholds vary widely - Massachusetts and Oregon have exemptions as low as $1 million, while states like Hawaii align more closely with the federal exemption. If your stepdad owned property in any of these states, you might still need to file a state estate tax return, even if most assets were in Michigan.
Consider opening a separate bank account for the estate using that EIN. It helps keep the estate finances completely separate and makes accounting much easier. We made the mistake of trying to track estate expenses through my mom's personal account after dad died, and it created a huge mess at tax time.
100% agree with this. When my husband died, having a separate estate account made everything so much clearer. Also made it easier to show the court during probate that I was handling things properly.
Everyone is overlooking something important here - the timing could matter depending on what state you live in! Some states require your federal return to be fully processed before you can file state returns accurately. In California for example, if your federal amendment changes your AGI significantly, you'll need to amend your state return too. And filing your new year's state return with inconsistent prior year info can trigger automatic review. Before you decide, check your state's requirements for amendments and how they handle prior year references on current returns.
That's a great point I hadn't considered. We're in Michigan, and I'm not sure how strict they are about this. Do you know if Michigan has specific requirements about the timing of federal amendments and their impact on current year state returns?
Michigan is actually less strict than some states about this. They don't automatically require state amendments just because you amended federal (though you should if the changes affect Michigan taxable income). For your situation, Michigan won't flag your current return based on the prior year deduction method question alone. However, if your mortgage interest deduction relates to a Michigan property and affects your Michigan property tax credit, you'll want to make sure both years are consistent. I still recommend filing the amendment first or simultaneously with your current return, but Michigan isn't one of the states that will automatically reject or flag your current return over this specific issue.
I work at a tax firm and we handle this exact situation regularly. Here's what most preparers don't tell you: the IRS systems don't actually cross-reference your answer about last year's deduction method with their records before processing your current return. File your 2023 amendment and 2024 return simultaneously. On your 2024 return, answer according to what WILL be true after amendment (that you itemized in 2023). Keep a detailed note with your tax records explaining the situation and timing. In the extremely unlikely event you're ever questioned, this note shows you were being forthright and not attempting to misrepresent anything. What tax software are you using for 2024? Some handle this situation better than others.
Something else to consider that nobody mentioned yet - your short term capital gains are taxed at your ordinary income tax rate. So that $66,500 gets added to your other income (like from your job) to determine the tax rate. For example, if you make $85,000 at your job, then your total taxable income would be $151,500, which pushes you into a higher tax bracket. You might want to look at tax-loss harvesting before year end if possible to reduce that net gain amount.
That's a really good point I hadn't thought about! Do you know if there's a limit to how much in losses I can claim against my gains in a single year?
There's no limit on using capital losses to offset capital gains in the same year. You can use all your losses to reduce your gains dollar-for-dollar. However, if your total losses exceed your gains, there is a limit on how much net capital loss you can claim against other income (like your salary) - that's capped at $3,000 per year. Any remaining loss above that $3,000 would carry forward to future tax years.
Make sure you also understand the difference between realized and unrealized gains/losses. Your tax bill is only on realized gains - when you actually sold the stock. Any stocks you still hold (even if they're up a lot) don't count toward your taxable gains until you sell them.
This is super important! I made this mistake last year and set aside way too much for taxes because I was looking at my account's total return instead of my realized gains. Ended up with a much smaller tax bill than expected!
Savanna Franklin
I went down this rabbit hole last year when selling my business. Here's what my accountant (who doesn't sell either product) told me: monetized installment sales are specifically what the IRS targeted with Notice 2022-21, while DSTs are technically different but still high-risk. The key difference is that in a monetized installment sale, you're selling directly to the end buyer but getting a separate loan from a lender. In a DST, you're selling to a trust that then sells to the end buyer. The DST adds an extra layer that might avoid the specific issues in the IRS notice, but creates its own potential problems. He ultimately advised me against both and suggested a 1031 exchange into rental properties combined with opportunity zone investments for the portion that couldn't be exchanged. Ended up being less risky and actually gives me ongoing income.
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Juan Moreno
ā¢But don't you lose flexibility with a 1031? I want to invest the proceeds in my new business venture, not just more real estate. Did your accountant discuss that limitation?
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Savanna Franklin
ā¢That's absolutely correct - 1031 exchanges definitely lock you into real estate investments, which was fine for my situation since I wanted passive income. For business investments, it wouldn't work. For investing in a new business venture, you might want to look into Qualified Small Business Stock (Section 1202) if you're setting up a C-Corp, or potentially an installment sale with a longer genuine payment period (without the monetization aspect that triggers IRS concerns). Both have limitations but might be less risky than DSTs or monetized installment sales. The right strategy really depends on your specific goals and risk tolerance.
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Amy Fleming
Has anyone actually used either of these structures successfully? All I see online are promoters selling them or people warning against them, but never anybody who's actually done it and can speak to their experience several years later (after potential IRS audits).
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Alice Pierce
ā¢I know someone who did a DST about 6 years ago. They're still getting payments from the trust and haven't been audited...yet. But they're constantly worried about it, especially with the increased IRS funding. Not sure the stress is worth it honestly.
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