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I had a similar situation on April 15, 2023. My congressman's office received confirmation from TAS on May 2nd, 2023 that my refund would be processed. The actual deposit hit my account on May 17th, 2023 - exactly 15 days after TAS confirmed the release. The technical process involves the TAS issuing what's called an OAR (Operations Assistance Request) to the specific IRS department holding your return, which typically has a 5-10 business day response requirement.
Hey Cedric! I went through something very similar last year - filed in February and didn't get my refund until August after getting my congressman involved. The TAS process can feel really slow, but once they issue that Operations Assistance Request (OAR), things usually move pretty quickly. In my case, I got my refund about 10 days after receiving the confirmation email from TAS. The July 9th date is basically their internal deadline to give you an update, but your actual refund could come much sooner. I'd definitely recommend keeping an eye on your bank account and maybe checking your transcript online if you can access it. The waiting is the worst part, but you're in good hands with TAS - they really do get results!
Thanks for sharing your experience, Cole! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same process. August seems like such a long time to wait, but I'm glad TAS finally got it sorted for you. I keep checking my bank account obsessively even though I know it's probably too early. Did you get any advance notice when your refund was actually deposited, or did it just show up one day? I'm trying to decide if I should call my TAS advocate before July 9th or just wait it out.
@Cole That timeline gives me hope! I'm in a similar boat right now - filed in January and still waiting after getting my congressman involved last month. Did your TAS advocate give you any heads up about what was actually causing the delay in your case? I'm trying to figure out if there's something specific I should be watching for or if it's just a matter of waiting for them to work through whatever backlog they're dealing with.
I'm also curious about what software everyone recommends for 1099 income? I've used TurboTax in the past but it gets expensive when you have to add the self-employment package.
FreeTaxUSA is my go-to. Handles all forms including Schedule C for 1099 income, and only charges for state filing. Their interface isn't as slick as TurboTax but it gets the job done for WAY cheaper.
Just wanted to add - don't panic about the self-employment tax! I was in a very similar boat last year with about $3,000 in 1099 income and was terrified I'd owe a fortune. The key thing to remember is you can deduct business expenses to reduce your taxable income. Even small things like office supplies, software subscriptions, or part of your phone/internet bill if you use them for work. I managed to deduct about $400 in legitimate expenses which saved me around $60 in self-employment tax. Also, if this is your first year with 1099 income and you expect to make more next year, consider making quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid owing a big chunk all at once. The IRS has a safe harbor rule - if you pay at least what you owed last year, you won't get penalized even if you end up owing more. Good luck! It's really not as scary as it seems once you get through it the first time.
Just a heads up that if you decide to take the distribution, Fidelity will issue you a 1099-R for the distribution in January 2025 (for your 2024 taxes). Make sure you keep documentation showing this was a return of excess contributions so you can properly report it on your taxes. The form might not be coded correctly to indicate this was a correction, so you might need to explain it when filing.
One additional thing to consider - make sure you understand the timing requirements. The IRS requires that excess contributions be distributed by the tax filing deadline (including extensions) for the year the excess occurred. For 2023 overcontributions, that would typically be April 15, 2024, or October 15, 2024 if you file an extension. If you miss this deadline, you can still take the distribution later, but it becomes more complicated tax-wise. You'd potentially face the 6% excise tax for 2023, then need to take the distribution in a subsequent year (which would be taxable in that year), and you'd need to file Form 5329 with your tax return. Given that we're already past the April deadline, I'd recommend checking if you filed an extension for your 2023 taxes. If not, you might want to consult a tax professional about the best way to handle this situation going forward.
This is really helpful information about the timing requirements! I had no idea there were specific deadlines for correcting excess contributions. Since I didn't file an extension and we're past April 15th, it sounds like I'm already in the more complicated territory you mentioned. Should I still go ahead and request the distribution from Fidelity, or do I need to handle this differently now? And what exactly is Form 5329 - is that something I can file myself or do I definitely need professional help at this point? I'm kicking myself for not dealing with this sooner, but better late than never I guess!
I'm dealing with a very similar situation and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I drive about 35,000 miles annually for work and get a $550 monthly car allowance that's also paid separately from my regular paycheck. My company handles gas and maintenance through a corporate card just like yours. After reading through all these responses, I'm now realizing I probably need to report that $6,600 as other income on my tax return. I had no idea about the difference between accountable and non-accountable plans - that distinction is crucial. Since my company just gives me a flat monthly amount without requiring me to document how I actually spend it on car expenses, it sounds like mine is also a non-accountable plan. One question I have is about estimated quarterly taxes. Since our employers aren't withholding taxes on these allowances, are we supposed to be making quarterly estimated tax payments throughout the year? I'm worried I might owe penalties for underpayment if I just wait until filing season to pay the taxes on this income.
Great question about estimated quarterly taxes! Yes, if your employer isn't withholding taxes on the car allowance and it creates a significant tax liability, you may need to make estimated quarterly payments to avoid underpayment penalties. The general rule is that you need to pay at least 90% of your current year's tax liability or 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your prior year AGI was over $150,000) to avoid penalties. If the additional tax from your $6,600 car allowance pushes you below these safe harbor thresholds, you should consider making estimated payments. You can calculate this by estimating your tax rate and multiplying it by the allowance amount. For example, if you're in the 22% federal tax bracket plus your state rate, you might owe around $1,500-2,000 annually on that $6,600. You could either increase withholding from your regular paychecks (using Form W-4) or make quarterly estimated payments using Form 1040ES. I'd recommend talking to a tax professional to make sure you're covered for next year!
This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a very similar boat - I get a monthly car allowance that's paid separately and not on my W-2, plus my company covers gas and maintenance through their corporate card. One thing I wanted to add is that you should definitely keep detailed records of your actual vehicle expenses (depreciation, insurance, repairs, etc.) even if you can't deduct them right now. The tax laws could change in the future, and having good documentation will be important if the rules shift back to allowing employee business expense deductions after 2025. Also, @Nia Jackson, you mentioned driving 48,000 miles annually - that's really significant wear and tear on your vehicle. Even though you can't deduct it now, you might want to calculate what your actual vehicle costs are versus the $650 allowance to see if you're breaking even. At the current IRS mileage rate of 65.5 cents per mile, 48,000 miles would be over $31,000 in vehicle costs, so your $7,800 allowance is probably not covering your true expenses. It's frustrating that the tax law doesn't account for this reality, but at least understanding the rules helps avoid any surprises with the IRS!
@Freya Thomsen makes an excellent point about keeping detailed records! I m'new to this community but dealing with almost the exact same situation. The math you mentioned is eye-opening - if the true cost is really over $31,000 annually at the IRS mileage rate, then that $7,800 allowance barely covers 25% of actual vehicle expenses. I m'curious though - when you say the tax laws could change after 2025, is there any indication that employee business expense deductions might come back? It seems like such an unfair situation where we re'paying taxes on income "that" doesn t'even come close to covering our actual costs. Has anyone heard anything about potential changes to these rules? Also, for record keeping, what s'the best way to track depreciation on a personal vehicle used for business? I know how to track gas receipts and maintenance, but depreciation seems more complicated to calculate properly.
Mateo Lopez
I've been through three tax seasons with an IP PIN now. In 2022, I had to verify despite having the PIN. In 2023, no verification needed. This year, verification required again. From my conversations with the Taxpayer Advocate Service, the IP PIN primarily prevents someone else from filing under your SSN, but doesn't exempt you from the IRS's internal verification algorithms. These algorithms flag returns based on multiple factors including income changes, new credits claimed, address changes, etc. Your remote work situation might be triggering geographic inconsistency flags if your employer is in one state and you're working from another.
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Freya Collins
I've had an IP PIN for two years now and got hit with verification both times, so you're definitely not alone! The frustrating part is that the IRS documentation makes it sound like the PIN should streamline everything, but in reality it just prevents fraudulent filings - it doesn't bypass their verification algorithms at all. What really helped me was keeping detailed records of every interaction. I document every call, reference number, and rep name because the systems don't always talk to each other properly. Also, if you're still working remotely, make sure your W-2 address matches what you have on file with the IRS - mismatches there seem to trigger additional scrutiny even with a PIN.
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Aisha Abdullah
ā¢This is really helpful info! I'm new to having an IP PIN (just got one this year after some issues) and I was under the impression it would make everything smoother. Your point about keeping detailed records is spot on - I've already had to call twice and got different answers each time. Quick question: when you say W-2 address should match what's on file with the IRS, do you mean the address on the actual W-2 form or the address I have registered with the IRS? I'm remote and my W-2 shows my employer's state but I live in a different state. Thanks for sharing your experience!
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