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can someone explain this LLC thing? i thought if you have an LLC you don't pay taxes? my cousin said he has an "s-corp" and doesn't pay self employment tax.
There's a lot of confusion about this. An LLC is just a legal structure, not a tax classification. By default, a single-member LLC is treated as a "disregarded entity" for tax purposes, meaning you still report business income on your personal tax return and pay self-employment tax. Your cousin with an S-corp is doing something different. An S-corporation allows you to be both an owner AND an employee. You pay yourself a reasonable salary (which has payroll taxes) and can take additional money as distributions (which avoid self-employment tax). But S-corps require more formalities like payroll processing, separate tax returns, etc. Usually not worth it until you're making at least $40-50k in profit.
I run a small Etsy shop selling handmade jewelry and went through this exact confusion last year! The $400 net profit threshold is definitely correct - I learned this the hard way when I thought I was under the filing requirement but wasn't. One thing that really helped me was tracking all my expenses throughout the year, not just at tax time. Things like materials, packaging supplies, Etsy fees, even mileage to craft stores all count as business deductions. I use a simple spreadsheet to track everything monthly. Also, since you mentioned you're set up as a sole proprietor LLC - that's actually redundant. An LLC with one owner is automatically treated as a sole proprietorship for tax purposes unless you elect otherwise. You'll still file Schedule C with your personal return just like any other sole proprietor. Keep those receipts organized now rather than scrambling later! Even at $3,700 in revenue, you'll likely have enough deductible expenses to significantly reduce what you actually owe in taxes.
Has anyone used TurboTax to handle this specific PAL situation? I'm in literally the exact same boat (property rented in 2020-2021, vacant in 2022, then sold) and I'm trying to figure out if TurboTax will walk me through this correctly or if I need to go to a CPA.
I used TurboTax last year for a similar situation. It does technically handle PALs, but I found it confusing. It asked a series of questions that didn't seem directly related to my situation, and I wasn't confident it was doing things right. Ended up going to a CPA who found several mistakes in what TurboTax had done. For something this specific, I'd recommend a tax pro.
I had a very similar situation with my rental property! Bought in 2018, rented 2019-2020, then sat empty for almost 18 months before I sold it in late 2022. I was also worried about whether I could still claim my suspended PALs since the property wasn't generating rental income when I sold. The good news is that you absolutely can claim those suspended losses against your sale gain. The key thing the IRS looks at is that you're disposing of your entire interest in the passive activity - it doesn't matter if the property was vacant at the time of sale. One thing I'd recommend is making sure you have good records of exactly what your suspended PAL amount was from 2021. I had to dig back through my tax software to find the Form 8582 from that year to get the exact carryforward amount. Also, don't forget that if you took any depreciation during the rental period, you'll have depreciation recapture to deal with separately from the PAL situation. The whole thing ended up saving me about $4,200 in taxes, so definitely worth getting right!
Has anyone actually had to USE their tax preparer bond? I'm curious about real-world experiences. Like, have any clients actually made claims against your bond, and what was that process like? I'm trying to understand not just which bond to get, but how this actually works in practice.
I had a client file a claim against my bond last year. I made an error on their Schedule C that resulted in an underpayment penalty of about $1,800. The surety company investigated, determined I was at fault, and paid the claim. Then I had to reimburse the surety company. The process was actually pretty straightforward, but it definitely incentivized me to be more careful and to get better professional liability insurance beyond just the required bond!
This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation as the original poster - just starting out and feeling overwhelmed by all the requirements. One question I haven't seen addressed: Do the bond requirements change if you're planning to offer additional services like bookkeeping or business consulting alongside tax preparation? I'm wondering if I need separate bonds for different services or if a comprehensive tax preparer bond covers everything. Also, for those who've been through this process - how far in advance should I get my bond before I actually start accepting clients? I want to make sure I have all my paperwork in order well before tax season begins.
Great questions! From my experience, if you're offering bookkeeping or business consulting in addition to tax prep, you'll likely need separate bonds or a more comprehensive professional liability bond. Tax preparer bonds are usually specific to tax preparation activities only. I'd recommend checking with your state's licensing board for each service type - they often have different bonding requirements. As for timing, I'd suggest getting your bond at least 60-90 days before you plan to start accepting clients. This gives you time to handle any paperwork issues, state filings, and ensures you're not scrambling right before tax season. Some states also have processing times for tax preparer registrations that can take several weeks once you submit your bond documentation.
Just adding more confirmation that losses in an IRA don't have the same wash sale concerns as taxable accounts. I did this exact move last tax season, selling tech in my IRA at a loss and buying similar (but not identical) ETFs in my brokerage account. My tax software didn't flag anything and my accountant confirmed it was fine. Just be careful if you're selling at a GAIN in your IRA and then repurchasing elsewhere. That's not a wash sale issue, but you'd be realizing gains inside the IRA that you don't get to offset with losses, which isn't optimal from a tax perspective.
Not to be pedantic but there are no tax consequences for selling at a gain in a traditional IRA either. You pay income tax on all distributions regardless of what happens inside the account. The only time this matters is in a Roth where gains are tax free anyway.
Great question! I went through something similar with my tech holdings a few years back. The key thing to remember is that wash sale rules only apply when you're trying to claim a tax loss, but since IRA losses aren't tax-deductible anyway, you're in the clear. One thing I'd add to the excellent advice already given - when you do move those investments to your taxable account, consider whether you want to buy the exact same stocks or use this as an opportunity to diversify a bit. You could look into broader tech ETFs or even mix in some other sectors while still maintaining exposure to the companies you believe in long-term. Also, since you're 30-40 years from retirement, you might not need to swing all the way to "safe" investments in your IRA. Maybe consider a middle ground approach where you reduce risk but still maintain some growth potential. Time is still very much on your side! The silver lining with those ARKK losses is that they're giving you a valuable lesson in portfolio management relatively early in your investing journey. Better to learn these lessons now than closer to retirement.
This is really solid advice, especially about not swinging all the way to "safe" investments. I've been so burned by my tech picks that I was ready to put everything in bonds, but you're absolutely right that I still have decades ahead of me. The diversification point is particularly helpful - instead of just buying back the same stocks that hurt me, maybe I should look at broader ETFs that give me tech exposure without being so concentrated in individual names. Do you have any specific suggestions for tech ETFs that might be less volatile than something like ARKK but still give decent growth exposure? And thanks for the perspective on learning these lessons early. It definitely stings right now, but I'd rather figure out proper risk management in my 30s than my 50s!
NeonNova
Something similar happened to me and I realized it was because my spouse and I both selected "Married" on our W-4 forms. This can cause underwithholding when both spouses work! You should both check the box that says "Married, but withhold at higher Single rate" or use the new W-4 form's two-earner worksheet.
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Dylan Campbell
ā¢This is exactly what happened to us! We both checked "Married" thinking it was the right thing to do, but ended up owing $3,400 at tax time. After fixing our W-4s to account for two incomes, our withholding is now spot on.
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Olivia Garcia
I completely understand your frustration - the estimated tax system is unnecessarily confusing, especially when you're just starting to navigate it as a young adult! Here's the bottom line: You likely don't need to make quarterly estimated payments at all. Since you both have W-2 jobs, the simplest solution is to adjust your withholding through new W-4 forms with your employers. The key insight is that the IRS doesn't care HOW you pay your taxes throughout the year - whether through paycheck withholding or quarterly estimated payments. They just want to receive enough money as the year progresses. Based on your situation (owing $2000 last year), I'd recommend: 1. Calculate how much extra you need withheld per paycheck ($2000 divided by remaining pay periods) 2. Submit new W-4 forms to both employers requesting this additional withholding 3. This eliminates the need for quarterly payments entirely The "safe harbor" rule mentioned by others is also crucial - if your total withholding this year equals at least what you owed last year ($2000), you won't face penalties even if you still owe at filing time. Don't let the IRS rep's technical jargon intimidate you. This is actually a pretty straightforward fix once you understand your options!
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