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Understanding Gift Taxes After Selling My House - Gift to Relatives After Sale of Residence

I'm trying to wrap my head around gift taxes for this situation I'm dealing with. My mom recently sold her house in upstate New York and wants to give my sister and me about $500,000 each from the proceeds. This would be a pretty big chunk of her overall worth, so I think the annual exclusion limit doesn't really matter here. From what I've gathered, there shouldn't be any immediate tax hit for her or for us kids, but she'd need to file that Form 709 with her taxes, which would basically reduce her lifetime gift exclusion from about $13.3 million down to $12.3 million (if I'm understanding the math right). For us kids, we just need to make sure we document somewhere that this money was a gift and not income, right? Am I missing anything with this plan? Are there other pitfalls or issues we should consider before she writes those checks? Just want to make sure we're doing everything properly and not setting ourselves up for a headache down the road.

You've got the basics right, but let me clarify a few things about gift taxes in your situation. When your mother gives $500,000 each to you and your sister, she won't owe any immediate gift tax, but she will need to file Form 709 (the United States Gift Tax Return). The current lifetime gift and estate tax exemption is actually $13.61 million per individual for 2024 (and likely higher for 2025 with inflation adjustments). After giving $1 million total ($500k to each child), her remaining lifetime exemption would be reduced by that amount. The annual gift tax exclusion ($18,000 per recipient for 2024) would apply first, so technically the exemption would be reduced by $482,000 per child. For you and your sister, you're correct that there's nothing to report on your tax returns. The gifts aren't taxable income to you. However, you should keep documentation showing this was a gift, especially for large deposits that might raise questions. A simple gift letter signed by your mother would suffice. One consideration: if your mother might ever need Medicaid for long-term care, there's a five-year lookback period where gifts could affect eligibility.

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Thanks for the detailed info! What about property tax implications? If we use the gift money to buy houses in NY, would there be any special treatment or consequences? Also, would it matter if mom writes one big check or breaks it into smaller amounts over a few months?

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There are no property tax implications specific to using gifted funds to purchase property. The money is yours once gifted, and how you use it doesn't change any tax considerations. The source of your down payment doesn't affect property taxes - those are based on the assessed value of the property you purchase. Breaking large gifts into smaller amounts to avoid filing requirements (sometimes called "structuring") is not recommended. The IRS looks at the total amount gifted in a calendar year, so splitting $500,000 into multiple smaller payments within the same year doesn't change the reporting requirement. Your mother should make the gifts in whatever way is most convenient and just file the Form 709 as required. Being transparent is always the safest approach.

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Just want to add something important that wasn't mentioned yet - your mom should be careful about timing if there's any chance she might apply for Medicaid within 5 years. My aunt gave us similar gifts after selling her house and then needed nursing home care 3 years later. Those gifts created a penalty period where she couldn't get Medicaid coverage. Make sure your mom talks to an elder law attorney if there's any chance she'll need long-term care in the next few years!

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That's a really important point I hadn't considered. Mom is in her early 70s and healthy now, but you never know what could happen. Do you know if there are any ways to structure gifts to avoid the Medicaid penalties while still helping out family? Or is it just a hard 5-year rule no matter what?

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It is unfortunately a pretty hard 5-year lookback rule, though there are some limited exceptions. Some types of transfers to certain family members (like a disabled child) or into specific trusts don't trigger penalties. An elder law attorney might suggest alternatives like your mother keeping the money but creating a carefully structured promissory note if she wants to help you now, or setting up a proper medicaid-compliant annuity. Another option could be having her contribute to 529 education plans for grandchildren which may have different treatment. The rules are complex and vary by state, so definitely get professional advice specific to New York if this is a concern. The consultation fee would be tiny compared to the potential costs of getting it wrong.

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Has anyone mentioned basis step-up? If your mom is older, it might actually be more tax-efficient overall if she kept the house until she passed away instead of selling it and gifting cash. When you inherit property, you get a "stepped-up" basis to fair market value at death, which can save a ton in capital gains taxes compared to receiving gifted cash from a sale. Just something to think about for others in similar situations!

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This is such an underrated point! My parents sold their home to "help us kids out" and we all ended up worse off tax-wise compared to if they'd kept it. The capital gains tax they paid plus the reduction in their lifetime exemption was a double hit that could have been avoided with better planning.

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