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Aliyah Debovski

When Should Parents File Form 709 for Gift Tax Exceeding Annual Exclusion?

So my wife and I are planning to help our daughter with a down payment on her first home. We've been researching the gift tax exclusion which is currently at $18,000 per person ($36,000 for us as a couple gifting to one child). We're looking at contributing about $50K toward her down payment, which obviously exceeds our annual exclusion amount. It's not a massive inheritance-level gift or anything, just trying to help her get started in this crazy housing market. My question is - are most people actually filing Form 709 in situations like this? When the amount is only moderately over the exclusion threshold (like $10K-$20K over), are tax preparers regularly seeing clients come in requesting to complete the Gift Tax Return? Or is this one of those things people tend to overlook? I want to make sure we're handling everything properly but also wondering what's typical practice for gifts in this range. Thanks in advance for any insights!

This is definitely something you want to handle correctly. Even though your gift exceeds the annual exclusion amount, it's important to understand that filing Form 709 doesn't necessarily mean you'll owe any gift tax. The excess amount above your $36,000 annual exclusion (so about $14,000 in your case) would simply count against your lifetime gift and estate tax exemption, which is currently over $13 million per person. The filing requirement exists regardless of the amount over the threshold - whether it's $1 over or $100,000 over, you're technically required to file Form 709 to report the excess. This creates a record of you using a portion of your lifetime exemption. Many folks don't realize that the responsibility for filing the gift tax return falls on the giver, not the recipient. Your daughter won't need to report this gift or pay taxes on it.

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Thanks for clarifying! So even though we'll need to file the form, we likely won't owe any actual tax unless we've somehow used up our lifetime exemption (which we definitely haven't). That makes me feel better about the situation. Is this something most tax preparers are familiar with handling, or should I seek out someone who specializes in gift taxes?

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Most tax preparers who work with individuals should be familiar with Form 709. It's not particularly complex when dealing with straightforward cash gifts like yours. Any CPA or enrolled agent should be able to handle this without issues. If you had more complicated situations like gifting hard-to-value assets, family limited partnerships, or setting up complex trusts, then you might want a specialist. But for a simple cash gift that's only moderately above the annual exclusion, your regular tax preparer should be perfectly capable of handling it.

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Did they help with the actual filing too? Or just give advice on how to fill out the forms? My parents want to gift me some money for a house downpayment too but they're really confused about how splitting gifts works on the form.

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I'm a retired banking officer and have worked with clients on this exact situation many times. One thing no one has mentioned yet - if this gift is going directly to the mortgage company or seller as part of the closing process, there might be additional documentation needed for the mortgage company too. They'll typically want a "gift letter" certifying that the money is truly a gift and not a loan that would affect your daughter's debt-to-income ratio. Make sure you're prepared to provide this documentation to avoid delays in closing. Also, while everyone is correct that exceeding the annual exclusion requires filing Form 709, I've seen many clients confused about the splitting requirement. If you're married and want to give $36,000 as a couple (using both your exclusions), you must file Form 709 to formally elect gift-splitting, even if you don't exceed the combined amount.

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Wait, I thought you only needed to file Form 709 if you exceed the annual exclusion? My husband and I gave our son $35,000 last year for his wedding and we didn't file anything. Did we mess up?

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You're partially correct. If the total gift from both of you was $35,000 and you each contributed from your separate accounts (or you're in a community property state), then each of you gave less than the $18,000 individual annual exclusion, so no Form 709 would be required. However, if one spouse provided all the funds but you want to consider it as coming from both of you (to use both exemptions), then yes, you would need to file Form 709 to elect gift-splitting. This is a common misunderstanding. If the money came from a joint account or primarily from one spouse, you should technically file to properly split the gift. If you each wrote separate checks under the individual exclusion amount, you're likely fine.

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Has anyone used TurboTax or similar software to file Form 709? We're in a similar situation to the original poster (gifting $45k to our son) and wondering if the standard tax software handles gift tax returns well, or if we should go to a professional?

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I used TurboTax to file Form 709 last year and it was... not great. The gift tax portion feels like an afterthought in the software. It technically works, but the guidance was minimal and I wasn't confident I was doing it right, especially for the gift splitting election. If you're comfortable with tax forms and have a straightforward situation, it might be fine. But I ended up consulting with a tax pro anyway after attempting it myself, so I probably should have just started there and saved the headache.

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