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I'm in the exact same situation! Got my 291 about 10 days ago and it's driving me crazy seeing everyone else's 846 codes rolling in. I keep refreshing my transcript like it's going to magically change š From what I'm reading here, sounds like we just gotta be patient even though it's torture. Really hoping we see some movement soon! The financial stress of waiting is real when you're depending on that refund.
I totally feel you on the constant transcript refreshing! š I've been doing the same thing - checking multiple times a day like it's going to suddenly update. The waiting is absolutely brutal, especially when you see others getting their money. I'm at about the same timeline as you (got my 291 around 12 days ago) and trying to stay positive based on what others are sharing here. Sounds like most people are seeing movement in the 2-4 week range, so hopefully we're getting close! The financial stress is so real though - sending good vibes that we both see our 846 codes soon! š¤
I totally feel your pain! I was stuck on 291 for almost a month and it was driving me absolutely insane watching everyone else get their refunds. The worst part is not knowing WHY you got the adjustment or when it'll finally move. I ended up calling the IRS (took 3 hours on hold š©) and they told me it was an EIC adjustment that just needed extra review time. Finally got my 846 last week! Don't lose hope - I know it feels like you're forgotten but most people do eventually see movement. The waiting game is brutal but you're definitely not alone in this struggle! šŖ
Wow, 3 hours on hold sounds brutal but at least you got answers! š It's so frustrating not knowing what the adjustment is even for. An EIC review taking a whole month seems crazy but I guess that's just how backed up they are right now. Really glad you finally got your 846 though - gives me hope that mine will eventually show up too! Thanks for sharing your experience, it helps knowing others have made it through this nightmare wait š
Just a word of caution - if your wife is on F1 and working on campus, her employer might incorrectly continue to treat her as FICA-exempt even after she becomes a resident for tax purposes. Many university payroll systems automatically exempt all F1 students from FICA without checking their 5-year exemption status. If this happens and you know she should be paying FICA (either due to the MFJ election or because she's passed the 5-year substantial presence exemption), you might need to file Form 843 to pay those taxes separately. Otherwise, you could face penalties later if the IRS catches this discrepancy during an audit.
That's a very helpful warning - I hadn't thought about that potential issue. If her employer incorrectly continues the FICA exemption, would we calculate the amount owed and include it with our tax return? Or is there a separate process for paying FICA taxes that weren't withheld?
You'd need to calculate the employee portion of FICA taxes (7.65% of her wages) and pay them separately using Form 843. You can't include them with your regular tax return. I recommend talking to her university's payroll department directly to alert them about her change in FICA status. Many universities have procedures for handling this transition, and it's much easier if they correct the withholding going forward rather than you having to settle up at tax time.
This is a great discussion with lots of helpful insights! I wanted to add one more consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet. If your wife does end up being considered a resident alien (either through the substantial presence test as Javier mentioned, or through the MFJ election), make sure to also consider the impact on any tax treaty benefits she might currently be claiming. Many tax treaties have provisions that exempt students from US tax on certain types of income (like fellowship or scholarship income), but these benefits are typically only available to nonresident aliens. Once she becomes a resident for tax purposes, she may lose access to these treaty benefits. This could be particularly important if she receives any scholarship money beyond tuition and required fees, as that income might become taxable when she transitions to resident status. You'll want to factor this into your overall calculation of whether MFJ makes financial sense. Also, don't forget that if you do make the MFJ election, you'll need to continue making it every year until you formally revoke it or her status changes naturally. It's not a year-by-year choice once you start.
This is such an important point about treaty benefits that often gets overlooked! I'm actually dealing with this exact situation right now. My spouse is from India and has been claiming treaty benefits under Article 21 of the US-India tax treaty for her research assistantship income. We were leaning toward making the MFJ election, but now I'm wondering if losing those treaty benefits might offset the tax savings we'd get from filing jointly. Her research assistantship pays about $18,000 annually, and currently that's completely tax-free under the treaty. Do you know if there's a way to calculate exactly how much additional tax we'd owe on that research income if she becomes a resident? And is the treaty benefit loss immediate, or does it phase out over time?
I feel your pain - I went through the exact same nightmare with my spouse's withholding! The 2020 W-4 changes really threw everyone for a loop. Here's what finally worked for us after two years of getting it wrong: Don't rely solely on the IRS calculator - it's helpful but can miss nuances. Instead, look at your previous year's tax return and calculate roughly what your tax liability should be for this year based on your expected income. For a $40,000 salary with only $212 withheld, your spouse's W-4 is definitely treating them as if they have no other household income. Make sure you check the "Multiple Jobs or Spouse Works" box in Step 2(c), but more importantly, use the worksheet that comes with the W-4 form to calculate the additional amount needed in Step 4(c). As a quick fix for this year, I'd recommend having your spouse add at least $100-150 per paycheck in additional withholding on line 4(c) to catch up. You can always adjust it down later if it's too much. Better to get a refund than owe a huge amount plus penalties! The key is coordination - both spouses need to fill out their W-4s together, not separately.
This is exactly the kind of practical advice I was looking for! I think you're right that the IRS calculator might be missing something specific about our situation. The idea of calculating backwards from last year's tax return makes total sense - I can figure out what we should have withheld and then work from there. I'm definitely going to have my spouse add that extra $100-150 per paycheck in Step 4(c) right away. Even if it's a bit too much, like you said, better to get a refund than deal with penalties. And you're absolutely right about coordination - I think that's where we went wrong before. I was having my spouse fill out the W-4 without really considering how it interacted with mine. Thanks for the step-by-step approach, this gives me a clear path forward!
I went through this exact same frustration last year! The new W-4 form is definitely confusing, but there's a simple way to check if your withholding is on track throughout the year. Here's what I learned from my tax preparer: For someone making $40K, you should generally have around $2,000-3,000 in federal taxes withheld annually (depending on your total household income and filing status). With only $212 withheld, you're way off target. The quickest fix is to calculate what you should have withheld by now this year, then figure out how much extra to withhold from remaining paychecks. For example, if it's halfway through the year and you should have had $1,000 withheld but only have $100, you need to catch up by withholding an extra $900 over your remaining paychecks. I'd also recommend checking your pay stub every month to make sure the withholding amount looks reasonable. Don't wait until tax time to discover the problem again! One more tip: If your spouse's employer uses an online payroll system, you might be able to submit a new W-4 electronically and see the changes on the very next paycheck. Much faster than waiting for HR to process paper forms.
Has anyone here tried using TurboTax or H&R Block software to handle resubmitting a rejected return with dependent issues? I'm wondering if the commercial software makes this easier or if I should just prepare the forms manually.
I used TurboTax for a similar situation. Since it was a rejected return that was never officially filed, I was able to just go back into my TurboTax account, access the return, fix the issue with my dependents, and resubmit. But since it had been more than 45 days since the rejection, their system wouldn't let me e-file again, so I had to print and mail it.
Thanks for the info! I'll check if I can still access my old return in TurboTax. 45 days have definitely passed for me too, so I'm guessing I'll have to mail it in as well. Did you need to include any special notes or forms explaining that it was a resubmission of a rejected return?
I went through almost the exact same situation last year! My return was rejected due to dependent conflicts, and I also let it slide for way too long while dealing with other life stuff. The key thing is figuring out whether your return was actually processed or just rejected. If it was rejected and you never resubmitted, you're filing an original return, not an amendment. You can check this by looking at your IRS transcript online - if there's no record of a 2022 return being processed, then you definitely need to file a new original return. I ended up mailing in a complete 2022 Form 1040 with all schedules, and I included a brief cover letter explaining that this was my original return submission after an earlier e-file rejection due to dependent issues that have since been resolved. The IRS processed it without any problems, though it took about 12 weeks to get my refund since paper returns take longer. One tip: make sure to use the 2022 tax forms and instructions, not the current year ones. The IRS website has archives of all prior year forms if you need them.
Freya Andersen
The "family glitch" might also apply to your situation. If your employer offers affordable coverage for just YOU but not for your family, you alone would be ineligible for premium tax credits, but your family members might still qualify for them on the marketplace. This rule was updated recently, so if you have family members on your marketplace plan, make sure to look into this specifically!
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Omar Zaki
ā¢This is so confusing. So if my work insurance would cost $300/month for just me but $1200/month to add my wife and kids, they might still qualify for tax credits even if I don't?
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Sergio Neal
Yes, this is a really important point that many people miss! The "family glitch" fix that went into effect recently addresses exactly this situation. If your employer's family coverage costs more than 9.12% of your household income (even if your individual coverage is affordable), then your family members can qualify for premium tax credits on the marketplace. So in your example with $300/month for you and $1200/month for family coverage - if that family premium exceeds the affordability threshold based on your income, your wife and kids could potentially get subsidized marketplace coverage while you take the employer plan. You'd need to calculate whether $1200/month is more than 9.12% of your annual household income. This is definitely worth investigating if you have family members, as it could save thousands per year in premiums while keeping everyone properly covered without tax penalties.
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Josef Tearle
ā¢This is exactly the kind of information I needed! I'm in a very similar boat - my employer coverage for just me would be about $280/month, but adding my spouse and two kids jumps it to over $1,100/month. Based on what you're saying, I should calculate if that $1,100 exceeds 9.12% of our household income to see if my family could stay on the marketplace plan with subsidies while I switch to employer coverage. Do you happen to know if there are any specific forms or documentation I'd need to keep track of this arrangement for tax purposes?
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