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Has anyone here actually created a retirement account for their kids from S corp earnings? My daughter is 14 and makes about $7k a year in my business and I'm wondering if it's worth setting up a Roth IRA for her or if there's some other tax strategy I should be using.
Absolutely do the Roth IRA! It's one of the biggest advantages of paying your kids. Since they have earned income, they can contribute up to 100% of their earnings (maximum $7,000 for 2025) to a Roth IRA. At their age, decades of tax-free growth is incredible.
Great discussion here! I just want to add one thing that's helped me tremendously with S corp payroll for my kids - make sure you're keeping really detailed records of their actual work hours and tasks. The IRS can be pretty strict about "reasonable compensation" even for family members. I created a simple time tracking system where my kids log their hours and what they did each day. For the marketing/photo work, I keep copies of the actual materials they appeared in and notes about which photo shoots they participated in. This documentation has been invaluable when my accountant prepares our quarterly payroll reports. Also, don't forget that you'll need to issue them W-2s at the end of the year just like any other employee. The payroll software I use makes this pretty straightforward, but it's something to plan for if you're doing payroll manually. The Roth IRA suggestion is spot on too - getting them started on retirement savings this early is such a gift you can give them!
This is really helpful advice! I'm new to this community and just starting to think about hiring my 12-year-old to help with my small consulting business. The time tracking system you mentioned sounds like a great idea - do you use any specific software or just a simple spreadsheet? I want to make sure I'm documenting everything properly from the start, especially since I've heard the IRS can be pretty thorough when it comes to family employee arrangements. Also, when you mention "reasonable compensation," how do you determine what's reasonable for kids doing basic office work versus something more specialized like appearing in marketing materials?
Has anyone else noticed that FreeTaxUSA is actually better at finding deductions than TurboTax? I switched this year and somehow got an extra $720 on my refund with the exact same info.
Yep! I found the same thing. TurboTax somehow missed that I could deduct my HSA contributions even though I entered all the same information. It was like $800 difference in my refund!
Thanks for this detailed review! I've been dreading doing my taxes this year because I have my first backdoor Roth conversion to deal with. After reading your experience and the comments here, I'm definitely going to skip TurboTax and go straight to FreeTaxUSA. The price difference alone is compelling - saving $75+ while getting better functionality seems like a no-brainer. Really appreciate you taking the time to share this, especially the specific details about how FreeTaxUSA handles the Form 8606 reporting better than TurboTax. One quick question - did you have to upgrade to any premium features for the backdoor Roth reporting, or was that included in the base federal filing fee?
Another thing to know - check your pay stubs for any "pre-tax deductions" or similar section. Sometimes health insurance contributions appear there rather than as a separate line item, which can be confusing.
Also worth noting that if you elected to contribute to an HSA or FSA, those will show up as deductions even if you declined the actual health insurance. Could that be what OP is seeing on their paystub?
Just double-checked my latest pay stub and don't see any health insurance deductions at all, pre-tax or otherwise. I do have dental and vision which I did sign up for, but no actual health insurance deductions. I guess this confirms what everyone is saying - the amount on the 1095-C is theoretical and not actually being deducted. Such a relief!
That's great that you confirmed no health insurance deductions on your pay stub! Just to put your mind completely at ease - the 1095-C form is basically a report card showing that your employer offered you qualifying health insurance (which they did with that 1E code) and what your share would have been ($123.45/month). Since you're covered under your spouse's plan, you made the smart financial choice to decline. Keep that form with your tax records, but you don't need to attach it to your return. The IRS uses these forms to verify that employers are offering adequate coverage and that individuals have qualifying health insurance from somewhere (which you do through your spouse). You're all set!
This is exactly what I needed to hear! I was honestly losing sleep over this thinking I might have been enrolled in some plan without realizing it. It's such a relief to know that the 1095-C is just documentation and that declining coverage while being on my spouse's plan was the right move. Thanks everyone for walking me through this - first time dealing with employer benefits and these forms are way more confusing than they need to be!
Quick tip: dont forget to set aside money for state income tax too if ur state has it!! I got destroyed my first year self employed bcause I only calculated federal. My state takes another 5% which I wasnt ready for.
As a tax professional, I want to emphasize that the previous commenters have given you excellent advice, but there's one crucial point I need to stress: you MUST start making quarterly estimated tax payments immediately if you haven't already! Since you're on track to make $54K this year, you should be paying estimated taxes quarterly (due dates are Jan 15, April 15, June 15, and Sept 15). The IRS expects you to pay as you earn, not wait until tax time. If you don't, you'll face underpayment penalties on top of your tax bill. For someone in your situation, I'd recommend setting aside about 25-30% of each payment you receive for taxes (federal income tax + self-employment tax + state if applicable). This might seem like a lot, but it's better to overpay slightly and get a refund than to be hit with penalties. Also, since this is your first year with significant income, definitely consider consulting with a tax professional or CPA who specializes in self-employment. The cost of their services (usually $300-500) will likely save you much more than that in proper deductions and tax planning strategies. The good news is that with proper planning and deductions (QBI deduction, business expenses, retirement contributions), your actual tax burden will be much lower than your initial calculation!
This is incredibly helpful advice, thank you! I'm definitely panicking a bit because I haven't been making quarterly payments at all this year. Since we're already past the September deadline, what should I do now? Should I make a payment immediately for what I've earned so far, or wait until January 15th for the next quarterly deadline? Also, when you mention setting aside 25-30% of each payment - is that 25-30% of gross income or net profit after business expenses? I want to make sure I'm calculating this correctly going forward. And you're absolutely right about consulting a tax professional. Do you have any tips for finding someone who specifically understands self-employment taxes? I'm worried about just picking someone random who might not be familiar with all the deductions and strategies available to self-employed people.
Don't panic! You can still make an estimated payment now to minimize penalties. I'd recommend calculating what you should have paid for the first three quarters and making that payment immediately, then stay on track with the January 15th payment. For the 25-30% calculation, that should be based on your net profit after business expenses, not gross income. So if you receive a $5,000 payment but have $1,000 in related business expenses, you'd set aside 25-30% of the $4,000 net amount. To find a good tax professional who understands self-employment, look for CPAs or Enrolled Agents (EAs) who specifically advertise small business or self-employed clients. Check their websites for mentions of Schedule C, self-employment tax, or small business services. You can also ask for referrals in local business groups or freelancer communities in your area. Many offer free consultations where you can gauge their expertise before committing. The key questions to ask: Do they handle many self-employed clients? Are they familiar with the QBI deduction? Do they help with quarterly payment planning? A good tax pro will pay for themselves many times over in your situation!
CosmosCaptain
Great thread with lots of practical advice! As someone who works in tax compliance, I wanted to add a few technical points that might help: 1. **Nexus determination**: Physical presence isn't the only factor anymore. If you're actively managing your LLC from Florida (making business decisions, conducting operations, etc.), you almost certainly have nexus there regardless of where it's registered. 2. **Florida's "doing business" rules**: Florida requires foreign LLCs to register if they're "transacting business" in the state. This includes maintaining an office, owning/leasing property, or regularly conducting business activities - which sounds like your situation. 3. **Annual compliance costs**: Don't forget that maintaining good standing in multiple states means tracking different filing deadlines, registered agent requirements, and annual fees. Missing a filing in your formation state can cause your LLC to be dissolved, even if you're compliant in your operating state. 4. **Professional liability**: If you're in a profession that requires licensing (real estate, accounting, legal, etc.), some states have additional requirements for out-of-state business entities that can complicate things further. The privacy benefits are real, but for most small business owners, the administrative complexity and additional costs often aren't worth it unless you have specific asset protection concerns or are planning multi-state operations from the start. Florida's LLC laws are actually quite business-friendly, and you'd avoid the foreign registration requirements entirely.
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NebulaNomad
ā¢This is exactly the kind of detailed breakdown I was hoping to find! The nexus determination point is particularly helpful - I hadn't fully understood that physical presence isn't the only factor. It sounds like since I'd be managing everything from Florida, I'd definitely have nexus here regardless. The point about tracking multiple state compliance requirements is a real eye-opener. I'm already feeling overwhelmed just thinking about keeping track of different deadlines and filing requirements across multiple states. As someone just starting out, that administrative burden alone might outweigh any benefits. I'm not in a licensed profession, so that's one less complication to worry about. And you're right about Florida's LLC laws being business-friendly - I hadn't really researched how Florida compares to other states in that regard. Thanks for the professional perspective! It's really helping me lean toward the simpler Florida LLC route, at least to start with.
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Mateo Gonzalez
As someone who went through this exact decision process last year, I wanted to share what ultimately helped me decide. I was also attracted to Wyoming's privacy benefits but got caught up in the complexity everyone's mentioned here. What really sealed it for me was talking to a local Florida attorney who specializes in small business formation. They pointed out something I hadn't considered: Florida has pretty strong privacy protections for LLCs too, especially compared to many other states. While Wyoming and Nevada are often touted as the gold standard, Florida doesn't require you to disclose member information in your Articles of Organization, and you can use a registered agent for additional privacy if needed. The attorney also mentioned that Florida's "series LLC" option might be worth looking into if asset protection is a concern - it allows you to create separate "series" within one LLC that can have different members, assets, and liabilities. Not as well-known as the Wyoming/Nevada route but potentially useful for certain situations. Between the reduced complexity, lower ongoing costs, and still getting reasonable privacy protection, I ended up going with a Florida LLC and haven't regretted it. I'm spending my time growing my business instead of managing multi-state compliance issues, which feels like the right trade-off for where I am right now. Sometimes the "optimal" solution isn't worth the additional complexity when you're just starting out.
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