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Been through this before - typically takes 3-4 weeks for the paper check to arrive after rejection. You can also track it on the IRS website using "Where's My Refund" tool. Just make sure your address hasn't changed since you filed!
This is super helpful! I've been checking "Where's My Refund" obsessively but it still just says "being processed" š How long after the rejection does it usually update to show the paper check info?
Just thinking outside the box - could you set up a separate Venmo/Cash App account specifically for work tips? Maybe label it clearly like "[Company Name] Valet Tips" so it's obvious it's not your personal money? Might make the accounting cleaner at least.
That wouldn't solve the tax issue though. Venmo/Cash App accounts are tied to SSNs, so even a separate account would still be linked to OP personally. The IRS would still see it as their income regardless of the account name.
I work for a tax preparation firm and see situations like this regularly. You're absolutely right to be concerned - this setup is creating a significant tax liability risk for you personally. The fundamental problem is that payment apps report based on the account holder's SSN, regardless of the actual ownership of the funds. So you'll likely receive 1099-K forms showing the full amount of tips as YOUR income, even though most of it gets distributed to others. Here's what I recommend: First, immediately start documenting EVERYTHING. Create a spreadsheet tracking every digital tip received, the date, amount, and exactly how much went to which valet (including yourself). Keep screenshots of all transactions and payouts. This documentation will be crucial if the IRS questions anything. Second, you need to have a serious conversation with your employer about restructuring this arrangement. Ideally, the company should either set up a business account for receiving digital tips OR formally document that you're acting as their agent in collecting these payments. Without proper documentation from your employer, you could be personally liable for taxes on money that was never really yours. The $600 reporting threshold mentioned in other comments makes this even more urgent. With $4000/month flowing through your accounts, you're looking at potentially owing taxes on $48,000+ annually that you never actually kept. Don't wait on this - the longer the current system continues, the bigger the potential tax problem becomes.
Has anyone successfully gotten the IRS to remove these penalties? I'm in a similar situation after selling some land last year and got hit with a $2,800 penalty even though I paid everything I owed by April.
Yes! I got a first-time penalty abatement last year. If you haven't had penalties in the previous 3 tax years, you can often get them to waive it. Just call and specifically ask for a "first-time penalty abatement" under their administrative waiver policy. I literally just said those words and they removed my $1,900 penalty on the spot!
I went through this exact same situation two years ago when I sold my small business. The frustration is real - you pay a massive tax bill and then get hit with penalties on top of it! What helped me was understanding that the IRS views this as "pay as you go" rather than "pay by the deadline." Even though it feels unfair for one-time events, the system treats all income the same way. A few things that might help: First, definitely look into the first-time penalty abatement if you haven't had penalties in the past 3 years. Second, you can also request reasonable cause relief by explaining that this was an unexpected one-time transaction. I filed Form 843 with a letter explaining my situation and got about 60% of my penalty removed. For future reference, when you have large capital gains, you generally need to make the estimated payment by the end of the quarter when the transaction occurs. So if you sold in Q3, the payment would have been due September 15th. It's annoying but now you know for any future large transactions!
Does anybody know if buying snacks for the team after games counts as a deductible expense? I probably spent like $400 last season on post-game treats for my volleyball team.
Generally, yes! If you're providing snacks for the entire team as part of your volunteer coaching role and aren't being reimbursed, those expenses can qualify as charitable contributions. The key factors are: 1) The organization must be a qualified 501(c)(3) 2) The expenses must be directly connected to your volunteer service 3) You must not receive any personal benefit from the expense 4) You haven't been reimbursed for these costs Team snacks typically meet these criteria. Just keep your receipts and perhaps a note of which game each purchase was for. This documentation will be important if you're ever audited.
Great thread everyone! As someone who's coached youth tennis for 6 years, I want to emphasize the importance of keeping detailed records from day one. I learned this the hard way when the IRS questioned my deductions in year 3. A few additional tips from my experience: - Take photos of equipment you buy for the team (with receipts) showing it stays with the organization - Keep a simple log of volunteer hours even though you can't deduct time - it helps establish the scope of your volunteer commitment - If you travel to away tournaments, overnight travel expenses (hotels, meals) can also be deductible if the trip is primarily for volunteer purposes - Don't forget about uniforms or coaching gear you purchase that has the team/organization logo - these are clearly for volunteer use only The 14 cents per mile adds up fast when you're driving to multiple practices and games per week. Last year I deducted over $600 in mileage alone, plus another $300 in equipment and supplies. Just make sure your youth organization is actually a registered 501(c)(3) - you can verify this on the IRS website or ask them for their determination letter. Keep volunteering and helping these kids - the tax benefits are just a nice bonus for the great work you're already doing!
This is incredibly helpful! I'm just starting my first season coaching youth soccer and had no idea about most of these deductions. Quick question - when you mention taking photos of equipment, should I also document when I give it to the team? Like take a photo showing it's actually being used by the kids and not sitting in my garage? Also, for the mileage log, is there a specific format the IRS wants or is a simple spreadsheet with date, destination, and miles sufficient? I want to start tracking this correctly from the beginning rather than trying to recreate everything later like it sounds like you had to do!
CosmicCadet
Thank you all for sharing your experiences! This has been incredibly helpful. I'm feeling much more confident now about my situation. Based on what everyone has shared, it sounds like the 570/971 combination is pretty common and usually resolves within a few weeks. I checked my transcript again and noticed that both codes do share the same cycle date (20250221), which based on Mateo's explanation suggests it's likely just a verification process. The home improvement credits I claimed were for energy-efficient windows and insulation, so that could definitely be what triggered the review. I think I'll wait for the actual notice from the 971 code before taking any action, but it's reassuring to know that most people here had positive outcomes. Really appreciate this community - you've all saved me from spending hours on hold with the IRS! š
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Alice Coleman
ā¢Welcome to the community! I'm glad you found all the insights helpful. Your situation sounds very similar to what I went through earlier this year. The energy-efficient home improvement credits (especially windows and insulation) are actually quite common triggers for verification reviews, but they're usually straightforward to resolve. Since your 570 and 971 codes share the same cycle date, you're probably looking at a 14-21 day timeline once you respond to whatever the notice requests. Keep us updated on how it goes - these shared experiences really help other community members who might face similar situations!
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NeonNebula
As someone who just went through this exact scenario last month, I can confirm that the energy efficiency credits are definitely a common trigger for the 570/971 combo. I claimed the residential clean energy credit for solar panels and got the same codes with matching cycle dates. The key thing that helped me was keeping detailed records of all my expenses and receipts. When I got the notice (which took about 10 days to arrive), they just wanted me to verify the amounts I claimed and provide documentation. I uploaded everything through their secure portal and the 570 hold was released within 8 business days. One tip that saved me time: organize all your home improvement receipts and invoices now while you're waiting for the notice. That way you can respond immediately when it arrives. The IRS usually gives you 30 days to respond, but the sooner you provide what they need, the faster your refund gets processed. Your cycle dates matching is definitely a good sign - it means they flagged it for review right when they processed your return, rather than it sitting somewhere for weeks before anyone looked at it.
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Amaya Watson
ā¢This is really helpful! I'm new to this community and dealing with my first experience with IRS transcript codes. Just to clarify - when you uploaded your documentation through their "secure portal," was that the same as the regular IRS.gov website login, or is there a separate system they direct you to? I want to make sure I'm prepared when my notice arrives. Also, did you have to provide receipts for every single expense, or just the major ones? I have a lot of smaller items that added up to my total claimed amount.
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