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How to handle an Excess 401K Contribution from a previous tax year?

I just discovered I over contributed to my 401K by about $800 back in 2023. Had two different employers that year and somehow this slipped through the cracks. Here's where it gets weird - I haven't actually filed my 2023 taxes yet. I know, I know... I was expecting a refund and just completely forgot about it. I've already contacted my current employer to start addressing this, but I'm wondering what my options are. Since I haven't filed for 2023 yet, can I do anything on that return to fix this mess? Or should I just file as is? I know things got more complicated after April 2024. I've been looking at Form 5329 - does that apply here? Could I just add the overage to my wages/tips section of my 1040? Also, I understand I'll need to pay taxes and penalties on any earnings from that $800 excess contribution. But how do I even calculate that? My returns were only about 3.5% during the last quarter of 2023, and have been negative so far this year. Does that mean my earnings would be negative too? Thanks for any help untangling this!

The good news is that since you haven't filed your 2023 return yet, you have some options that are easier than if you'd already filed! For excess 401k contributions, you'll need to work with your plan administrator to get that $800 distributed back to you along with any earnings on that amount. This is called a "corrective distribution." Since you're past the April 15, 2024 deadline, those earnings will be taxable in 2025 (the year you receive the distribution) and will be subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty if you're under 59½. Form 5329 does indeed apply here - you'll need to complete Part IV to calculate the 6% excess contribution penalty. You'll report the $800 as excess contributions on line 15, and this penalty will apply for each year the excess remains in your account. As for calculating the earnings, that's actually your plan administrator's job. They'll determine the exact amount based on your account's performance, even if it's negative. They'll issue you a 1099-R showing the distribution when you receive it. When you file your 2023 return, you'll report your correct contribution limit on your Form 1040, and use Form 5329 to report and pay the 6% penalty on the excess.

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Wait, so even with negative returns, they still calculate "earnings" on the excess amount? Does the 10% early withdrawal penalty apply to those negative earnings too? And if I get this corrective distribution in 2025, does that mean I'll have to report it on my 2025 taxes, even though the excess contribution was from 2023?

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If your account had negative returns, the corrective distribution would actually be less than your original $800 excess contribution. So you'd receive the $800 minus the losses attributable to that amount. The 10% early withdrawal penalty only applies to positive earnings, not to the original contribution or to negative earnings. Yes, if you receive the corrective distribution in 2025, you'll report it on your 2025 taxes. The distribution will be reported on a 1099-R that your plan administrator will issue to you. The original excess contribution amount isn't taxed again since it was already included in your income, but any earnings (positive only) are taxable in the year you receive them.

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Don't forget to check if you're eligible for catch-up contributions if you're over 50! The limit was $27,000 for 2023 if you were 50+ instead of the standard $22,500. That might mean you didn't actually over-contribute. Also, if you had multiple 401k plans but only ONE employer during the year, the combined limit was still $22,500 (or $27,000 with catch-up). But if these were truly separate employers with separate plans, then yes, you're over the limit.

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Thanks for mentioning this! Unfortunately, I'm not over 50 yet, so the catch-up provision doesn't apply to me. And yes, these were definitely two separate employers during 2023 - I switched jobs mid-year and contributed to both plans without realizing I was exceeding the total limit. Really appreciate the suggestion though!

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Just a heads up - you might also need to amend your state tax return if you're in a state that offers tax benefits for 401k contributions. The excess amount wouldn't qualify for state tax benefits either. Also, make sure you coordinate with BOTH former employers. Sometimes when you have two jobs in one year, each employer doesn't know about the other's plan, so neither will automatically flag the excess.

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This is a good point about state taxes. I'm in California and had to deal with this on my state return when I over-contributed to my 403b. The state adjustment was actually more complicated than the federal one!

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you understand the timing of when you need to take action. Since you haven't filed your 2023 return yet, you actually have until you file that return to get the excess contribution corrected without it being considered a "late" correction. However, the 6% excise tax on Form 5329 will still apply for 2023 since the excess remained in your account past December 31, 2023. The good news is that once you get the corrective distribution, you won't owe the 6% penalty for 2024 and beyond. Also, when working with your plan administrator, make sure they calculate the earnings (or losses) correctly using the "earnings calculation method" - they should track the performance of your specific contributions. If your account lost money during that period, the corrective distribution will actually be less than the $800 you over-contributed. Document everything carefully - keep all correspondence with your plan administrator and make sure you get the proper 1099-R when the distribution is processed. You'll need this for your tax filings.

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This is really helpful clarification on the timing! I'm curious though - when you say the excess needs to be corrected "before filing the 2023 return," does that mean I need to actually receive the corrective distribution before filing? Or is it enough to just initiate the process with my plan administrator? I'm worried about further delaying my 2023 filing if I have to wait for the actual distribution to come through.

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