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Does anyone know if this works the same way for multiple attorneys? I had both a main attorney and a specialized employment attorney that my main attorney brought in. The fee split between them was complicated but came to about 40% total.

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Yes, it works the same way. The total attorney fees are what matters for the deduction, not how many attorneys were involved or how they split it. Just make sure you have documentation showing the total amount that went to all attorneys combined.

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I went through this exact situation two years ago with an employment discrimination settlement. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier is to also keep detailed records of any costs beyond just the attorney fees - things like filing fees, expert witness costs, or court reporter fees if your case had depositions. These additional litigation costs can also be deductible as part of your case expenses. My attorney's final statement broke down not just their fee but also $3,200 in other case costs that I was able to deduct. Make sure when you request that detailed letter from your attorney that you ask them to itemize ALL costs related to your case, not just their legal fees. Also, if any part of your settlement was specifically for punitive damages, that portion might have different tax treatment, so make sure your settlement agreement clearly states what each portion of the payment covers.

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Mateo Silva

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This is really helpful information! I hadn't even thought about the other litigation costs beyond just attorney fees. When you mention expert witness costs and court reporter fees, were those costs that you paid directly or did they come out of your settlement through your attorney? Also, regarding the punitive damages portion - how would I know from my settlement agreement if any part was specifically designated as punitive? My agreement just says "settlement of all claims" without breaking down the components. Should I ask my attorney to clarify what portions of the settlement were intended to cover what types of damages?

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One thing nobody mentioned - check if your work qualifies as a "permanent establishment" under Article 7 of the US-Belgium tax treaty. If it does, different rules might apply. This bit me when I was contracting with a US company from Sweden.

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Anthony Young

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Could you explain more about this permanent establishment thing? Is a single freelancer working from home considered that?

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AstroAce

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Generally no, a single freelancer working from home wouldn't create a permanent establishment. PE typically requires a fixed place of business through which you actively carry on business activities for the US company, like having an office or warehouse. Working from your Belgian home as an independent contractor usually falls under Article 14 (Independent Personal Services) rather than Article 7. The key test is whether you have a "fixed base" that's regularly available to you for performing your services AND you're in Belgium for more than 183 days in a 12-month period. Since you're just freelancing remotely, you're probably fine, but if your arrangement becomes more formal (like if they set you up with a Belgian office or you start having employees), that could change things.

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Dont forget about social security! The US and Belgium have a totalization agreement that prevents double taxation on social security. You'll probably pay into the Belgian system only since you live there permanently, but you need to get a certificate of coverage from Belgian authorities.

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Haley Stokes

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Based on your situation with both spouses being self-employed and one business operating at a loss, here are some key points that might help: First, confirm you're maximizing business deductions for both businesses. Even though one operated at a loss, proper documentation of that loss can offset other income. Make sure you're capturing all legitimate expenses - office supplies, equipment depreciation, mileage, professional development, etc. For the profitable business, health insurance premiums paid for self-employed individuals ARE deductible before calculating SE tax (this is different from regular IRAs). If you're paying for health insurance out of pocket, this could directly reduce your $2,400 SE tax burden. Also consider if you qualify for an HSA - those contributions can also reduce SE tax, not just income tax. The retirement accounts (Traditional IRA, SEP IRA, Solo 401k) will help with income tax but won't directly touch that SE tax. However, since you already got your income tax to zero with the saver's credit and Roth contributions, focusing on SE tax reduction through health insurance deductions and maximizing business expenses is probably your best bet. Document everything carefully - the IRS scrutinizes self-employed deductions more closely than W-2 situations.

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Great question! I went through the exact same confusion last year. Here's what I learned the hard way: You're absolutely right that retirement accounts like Traditional IRAs, Roth IRAs, and even SEP IRAs don't directly reduce self-employment tax - they only help with income tax. SE tax is calculated on your net business income before any retirement deductions. However, there are a few strategies that CAN directly reduce SE tax: 1. **Health insurance premiums** - If you're paying for health insurance as a self-employed person, these premiums are deductible BEFORE calculating SE tax (not just income tax). This could be significant savings. 2. **HSA contributions** - Similar to health insurance, if you have a qualifying high-deductible health plan, HSA contributions reduce SE tax too. 3. **Maximize business expenses** - Every legitimate business deduction (equipment, supplies, home office, mileage, professional development) reduces your net business income, which directly lowers SE tax by about 15.3%. Since your husband's business was profitable and yours operated at a loss, make sure that loss is properly documented to offset other income. Also double-check that you're capturing ALL legitimate business expenses for both businesses. The retirement accounts are still worth maxing out for income tax purposes, but for that $2,400 SE tax, focus on health insurance deductions and business expenses. Good luck with your Vanguard call!

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Just wanted to update everyone - I have PNC with a DDD of 3/14 and still nothing as of 4pm EST. Starting to worry since everyone else seems to be getting theirs. Filed through TurboTax on 1/28, accepted same day. My transcript shows code 846 with the 3/14 date but no deposit yet. Anyone else with PNC still waiting or should I be concerned at this point?

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Don't panic yet! I've seen PNC deposits come in as late as 6pm on early deposit days. Sometimes their system processes in different batches throughout the day. Since you have the 846 code with 3/14 date on your transcript, the money is definitely coming. I'd give it until end of business day before worrying. If nothing by tomorrow morning, maybe try calling PNC customer service to see if they can see a pending deposit on their end.

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Caleb Stark

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Same situation here! PNC with DDD of 3/14, filed through FreeTaxUSA on 1/30. Usually get my refunds 2 days early but nothing yet as of 4:30pm. My transcript shows the 846 code too. Starting to wonder if PNC is having delays this year or if it's just taking longer than usual. Really hoping it hits tonight or first thing tomorrow morning. The anticipation is killing me! Will definitely update when mine comes through.

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Ryder Ross

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I'm in the exact same boat! PNC with DDD 3/14, filed around the same time as you, and still refreshing my account every hour. The 846 code on the transcript is reassuring though - means the IRS has definitely sent the payment. I've read that sometimes PNC's early deposit feature can be inconsistent depending on when they receive the ACH file from the IRS. Since it's still business hours, I'm trying to stay optimistic that it'll hit before end of day or overnight. Let's keep each other updated!

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Don't forget that not all "donations" are tax deductible! I learned the hard way last year that giving money to GoFundMe campaigns and directly to individuals doesn't count for tax purposes. Has to be a qualified 501(c)(3) organization. Check before you donate if tax benefits matter to you!

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Mei-Ling Chen

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This! I made the same mistake with a local family who lost their home in a fire. Gave $2k and couldn't claim a penny. Should've donated through their church instead which would've been deductible.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you can carry forward unused charitable deductions for up to 5 years if you exceed the AGI limits in any given year. So if you have a particularly generous year where your donations exceed 60% of your income, you don't lose those deductions - they roll over to future tax years. This is especially helpful for people who make large one-time donations or have variable income. Just make sure to keep good records of what you're carrying forward each year!

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Natalie Wang

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This is really helpful info! I had no idea about the 5-year carryforward rule. Quick question - if I'm carrying forward unused deductions from a previous year, do those get added to my current year donations when calculating whether I should itemize? Like if I have $3,000 carried forward and donate $9,000 this year, would that be $12,000 total for itemizing purposes?

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