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Don't forget about state tax departments too! I had a similar situation and my state's department of revenue was actually way more helpful than the IRS. They had copies of all my W2s for the past 5 years and were able to mail them to me after I verified my identity. Worth checking if your state offers something similar!
This is good advice! I just checked my state's tax website and they have an online portal where you can view past tax documents. Much easier than dealing with the IRS system.
For anyone still dealing with this, I wanted to share what worked for me after being in a very similar situation. I hadn't filed for 6 years and was completely overwhelmed trying to piece everything together. Here's what I learned: You actually don't need the original W2s to file your back taxes. The IRS wage and income transcripts contain all the essential information - employer name (even if partially masked), wages, federal income tax withheld, Social Security wages, etc. A tax professional can work with just this information to prepare your returns. The key is to focus on getting your transcripts for each year you need to file, then either use tax software that accepts transcript data or work with a CPA who handles unfiled returns regularly. Many tax pros are experienced with exactly this situation and can interpret those encrypted EINs better than you'd expect. Also, don't panic about penalties - the IRS is often willing to work with people who are genuinely trying to get compliant, especially if you're owed refunds for some of those years. The sooner you start filing, the better your situation becomes. You've got this!
This is exactly the reassurance I needed to hear! I've been paralyzed by fear thinking I needed to track down every single W2 before I could even start the process. Knowing that the transcripts are actually sufficient is a huge relief. Do you have any recommendations for finding a CPA who specializes in unfiled returns? I'm worried about walking into just any tax office and having them not know how to handle this kind of messy situation.
This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation but with a $25,000 retention bonus that I had to repay when I left my job earlier this year. The company made it clear the repayment was required, but they didn't provide much guidance on the tax implications. From reading everyone's experiences here, it sounds like the credit method under Section 1341 would likely be better for me too, especially since my income was actually higher in the year I received the bonus compared to this year. One question I have - does it matter HOW you repaid the bonus? I had to write a personal check back to the company rather than having it deducted from final paychecks. I'm assuming that doesn't change the Section 1341 treatment, but I want to make sure I have the right documentation. Also really appreciate the mentions of taxr.ai and Claimyr - sounds like both could be helpful for getting the calculations right and actually talking to someone at the IRS about this. This is definitely not something I want to mess up!
Welcome to the Section 1341 club! The method of repayment shouldn't affect your eligibility for the credit treatment - whether you wrote a personal check, had it deducted from final pay, or even had wages garnished, what matters is that you actually repaid income that was previously included in your taxable income. Just make sure you keep excellent documentation: your original W-2 or 1099 showing the bonus, proof of the repayment (canceled check, bank statement, receipt from the company), and any correspondence with your employer confirming the repayment was required. The IRS will want to see a clear paper trail. With a $25k repayment and higher income in the bonus year, you're likely looking at significant tax savings with the credit method. Given the amount involved, I'd definitely recommend getting professional help or using one of the tools mentioned here to make sure you're maximizing your benefit and filing correctly. One mistake on a calculation this size could cost you thousands!
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm a tax preparer and see Section 1341 situations maybe 2-3 times per year, so I don't always feel confident with the calculations. What I've learned from experience is that the documentation is absolutely critical - the IRS will scrutinize these claims pretty carefully. A few additional points for anyone dealing with this: 1) Make sure the repayment was actually REQUIRED, not voluntary. If you had a choice about whether to repay, Section 1341 doesn't apply. 2) The repayment has to be for income that was included in a prior year's return AND you had a legal obligation to repay it when you originally received it (even if that obligation was contingent). 3) If you're married filing jointly but only one spouse received/repaid the bonus, you still calculate as if it affected the joint return in both years. The $3,000 threshold mentioned earlier is correct - amounts under that must be handled as itemized deductions only. For amounts over $3,000, definitely run both calculations because sometimes the itemized deduction method can be better, especially if you're in a lower tax bracket now than when you received the income. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences with the various tools and services - it's good to know what resources are out there for these complex situations!
This is exactly the kind of professional insight I was hoping to find! I'm dealing with my first Section 1341 situation and your point about the repayment being REQUIRED vs voluntary is really important - I hadn't considered that distinction before. In my case, the bonus repayment was definitely required due to a contract clause that triggered when I left within 12 months. I have the original employment agreement that spells this out, plus the company's demand letter for repayment. Your mention of the legal obligation existing when the income was originally received is interesting - does that mean if someone got a discretionary bonus with no strings attached, but then their company later demanded it back due to performance issues, Section 1341 wouldn't apply? Just trying to understand the nuances here. Also, really appreciate the reminder about running both calculations even for larger amounts. With all the discussion about the credit method usually being better, I was starting to assume that was always the case!
Just adding another consideration - depending on your income level, claiming your grandmother might give you access to other tax benefits besides just the dependent exemption. If you qualify as "Head of Household" filing status because of her, that gives you better tax brackets and a higher standard deduction. You might also qualify for a "Credit for Other Dependents" which is worth up to $500. And if you're paying medical expenses for her, those could potentially be deductible if your total medical expenses exceed 7.5% of your AGI.
This is such a complex situation that really highlights how confusing tax law can be when it intersects with benefits! I'm dealing with something similar with my elderly father. One thing I'd suggest is getting the exact breakdown of your grandmother's SSI vs SSDI amounts from her Social Security statements. The $1,240 total could be split different ways, and knowing the precise SSDI amount will tell you definitively if she's under that $4,800 gross income threshold. Also, keep detailed records of everything you're spending on her support - not just the big things like rent and food, but also things like clothing, transportation to medical appointments, etc. The IRS has a specific worksheet (Publication 501) for calculating support, and it's more comprehensive than most people realize. The point about potential SSI reductions is really important too. You might want to call your local Social Security office to ask about how claiming her as a dependent could affect her benefits before you file. Sometimes the tax savings don't offset the benefit reduction.
This is really helpful advice about keeping detailed records! I've been pretty good about tracking the big expenses like groceries and her portion of utilities, but I hadn't thought about documenting things like her clothing or transportation costs. Do you know if there's a specific format the IRS wants for these records, or is it okay to just keep receipts and a simple spreadsheet? I want to make sure I'm prepared if they ever question the support calculation. Also, that's a great point about calling Social Security directly. I was so focused on the tax implications that I didn't really consider how this might affect her monthly benefits. Definitely don't want to hurt her financially just to save on my taxes.
I've been through this exact scenario! Living abroad definitely adds complexity to the IDme-IRS verification process. A few things to try: First, make sure you're accessing the IRS portal directly (irs.gov/account) rather than through any bookmarked links - sometimes cached URLs can cause loops. Second, when you get to the IDme login screen, look for text that says something like "authorize IRS access" after you log in - this is the key step many people miss. Third, if you're still getting stuck, try using a different browser entirely or clearing all cookies/cache for both irs.gov and id.me domains. The international IP address usually isn't the issue, but the verification system can be finicky about browser sessions. If none of that works, you might need to contact IDme support directly - they can see if there's a technical issue with your account's IRS authorization status.
This is really helpful advice! I'm also an expat and had similar issues. One thing I'd add is to check your IDme account settings to make sure your phone number is still current - sometimes the IRS verification requires SMS verification as a secondary check, and if your number changed when you moved abroad, that could cause the loop. Also, @520e1ca3c235 is spot on about using the direct IRS portal link - I was using an old bookmark that had some session parameters that kept causing issues.
I went through this same frustrating experience last year! The trick is understanding that IDme verification and IRS authorization are two separate steps. Even with a verified IDme account, you still need to complete the IRS-specific authorization flow. Here's what worked for me as an international filer: 1) Make sure you're using the direct IRS.gov link, not any bookmarked pages, 2) When you log into IDme, look for the consent screen that specifically mentions sharing your verified information with the IRS - this is crucial and easy to miss, 3) Ensure your IDme profile address matches exactly what's on your most recent tax return (international addresses can be tricky with formatting), and 4) Try using a fresh browser session or incognito mode to avoid any cached authentication issues. The Canadian IP address shouldn't be a problem, but the address formatting and authorization consent are the most common culprits for the verification loop. If you're still stuck after trying these steps, IDme customer support can check if there's a technical issue with your account's IRS connection status.
This is exactly what I needed to hear! I'm dealing with this same issue right now from the UK. The part about the consent screen specifically mentioning IRS is key - I think I've been clicking through too quickly and missing that step. Quick question though - when you mention the address formatting, did you have to use the US address format or your actual international address? I've been going back and forth on whether to list my UK address or my last US address from before I moved.
Benjamin Kim
Has anyone mentioned Schedule K-1 yet? When I handled my father's estate last year, I had to issue K-1s to all the beneficiaries for their portion of the estate income. That was the most confusing part for me!
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Samantha Howard
ā¢This is important! A K-1 is needed if the estate had income that passed to beneficiaries. Each beneficiary reports their share on their personal returns. OP should check if the estate made any distributions to heirs during the tax year.
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Brianna Schmidt
I'm so sorry for your loss, Jayden. Dealing with estate taxes while grieving is incredibly difficult. From what you've described, you're on the right track with getting the EIN. Since your mom had minimal assets (house with mortgage and car), you may not need to file Form 1041 unless the estate generated over $600 in income after her death. This would typically come from things like interest, dividends, or rental income - not the assets themselves. For the SSA-1099, you'll need to determine if those Social Security payments were for periods before or after her death. Benefits for time periods when she was alive go on her final Form 1040 (covering January 1 to date of death). Any benefits received for periods after death should be returned to Social Security. A few key things to consider: - You'll likely need to file her final personal return (1040) in addition to potentially filing the estate return (1041) - The house and car are estate assets but don't create taxable income unless sold or generating rental income - Keep detailed records of all estate expenses (funeral costs, legal fees, etc.) as these may be deductible Don't feel bad about being confused - this is complex stuff even for professionals. Consider consulting with a tax professional who specializes in estate returns if your attorney isn't providing clear guidance on the tax aspects.
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Carmen Reyes
ā¢This is really helpful advice, Brianna. I'm dealing with something similar right now with my grandmother's estate. One thing that's been confusing me is the timing - if my grandmother passed away in March but we didn't get the EIN until May, do we still report estate income from the date of death or from when we got the EIN? Also, what counts as "estate expenses" exactly? Can things like the cost of probate court filing fees be deducted?
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