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From my experience last year with an offset situation, WMR is absolutely the slowest system to update with the correct remaining amount. I had a $2,400 refund with a $800 offset for an old debt, and it took WMR a full 9 days to show the correct $1,600 remainder amount. What's really important to understand is that the actual processing and deposit of your remaining refund happens independently of what WMR displays. My remaining $1,600 was deposited exactly on day 14 after approval, even though WMR was still showing confusing information. The key is to focus on the timeline they gave you (March 17th in your case) rather than what WMR shows. Also, definitely check your tax transcript - it updated within 48 hours and showed exactly what was happening with codes 898 and 776, which gave me peace of mind while waiting for WMR to catch up.
This is super reassuring to hear from someone who's been through the exact same thing! I'm currently on day 4 since my approval with offset notification, and I've been refreshing WMR probably 20 times a day like it's going to magically update faster. Your timeline really helps - knowing that your remaining amount was deposited right on schedule even while WMR was still confused makes me feel so much better. I'm definitely going to stop obsessing over WMR and focus on the March 17th date they gave me instead. Thanks for sharing your specific experience with the amounts and timeline - it's exactly what I needed to hear as someone dealing with this for the first time!
I'm going through this exact same situation right now! Got my approval notice 5 days ago showing an offset, and I've been checking WMR constantly hoping to see the remaining amount. Reading through everyone's experiences here is really helpful - sounds like I need to stop obsessing over WMR and just trust that my remaining refund will arrive by the date they gave me (March 20th in my case). The transcript suggestion is great too - I had no idea that would show more detailed information faster than WMR. It's frustrating that these systems don't talk to each other better, but at least now I know this delay is totally normal. Thanks everyone for sharing your timelines and experiences!
Umm sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm in the same situation and wondering how box 5 on the 1098-T (scholarships/grants) affects all this? I had a scholarship for part of my undergrad semester and it's showing in box 5. Do I need to subtract that from my qualified expenses before calculating AOTC?
Not a dumb question at all! Yes, you need to subtract the amount in Box 5 (scholarships/grants) from your qualified education expenses before calculating your education credit. For example, if you had $10,000 in qualified expenses (Box 1) and $4,000 in scholarships/grants (Box 5), you would use $6,000 as your eligible education expenses for calculating your credit.
Just wanted to add some clarity since I see some confusion in the comments. As a tax professional, I can confirm that you absolutely cannot claim both AOTC and LLC in the same tax year for the same student - this is a hard IRS rule. However, there's an important nuance about your situation: since your undergraduate expenses occurred in the first part of 2024 and your graduate expenses in the second part, you need to be strategic about which credit to use. If you've only used AOTC for 3 years so far, you have one year of eligibility left, but it can ONLY be applied to undergraduate expenses. Your graduate school expenses would not qualify for AOTC at all - they could only qualify for LLC. So your real choice is: use your final year of AOTC on just your $7,200 undergrad expenses, or use LLC on the combined $25,700 total expenses. Run the numbers both ways - AOTC might give you up to $2,500 (and up to $1,000 is refundable), while LLC gives you 20% of qualified expenses up to $2,000 total. Given your amounts, AOTC on just the undergrad expenses would likely be more beneficial than LLC on everything.
This is really helpful! I'm new to this community but dealing with a similar situation. Just to make sure I understand correctly - if I have $7,200 in undergrad expenses and this would be my 4th year using AOTC, I could get up to $2,500 credit with $1,000 being refundable even if I owe no taxes? And the LLC on $25,700 total would max out at $2,000 but isn't refundable? Also, do I need to worry about income limits for either credit? I made about $45,000 last year between my part-time job and some freelance work. Thanks for breaking this down so clearly!
Just a quick warning to anyone using the automatic extension - make sure you still file Form 4868 for an extension of your actual tax return by April 18th! The FBAR automatic extension ONLY applies to the FBAR itself (FinCEN Form 114), not your tax return. I made this mistake last year thinking the automatic extension covered everything related to foreign accounts. Ended up having to explain to the IRS why my tax return was late even though my FBAR was timely filed. Don't repeat my mistake!
Wait, so if I have to report foreign accounts on Schedule B of my tax return, that part isn't extended automatically with the FBAR extension? That's confusing since they're related. Can you clarify what forms need separate extension requests?
That's right - they're definitely related but handled by different agencies. The FBAR (FinCEN Form 114) goes to FinCEN, not the IRS, which is why it has its own separate deadline and extension rules. Your tax return (1040 and all schedules including Schedule B where you check the box about foreign accounts) goes to the IRS and follows regular tax return deadlines. So you need Form 4868 to extend your tax return filing. Also, Form 8938 (Statement of Foreign Financial Assets) if required, goes with your tax return and would be covered by the Form 4868 extension, not the automatic FBAR extension.
Something nobody has mentioned yet - if you haven't filed FBARs in previous years when you should have, look into the Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures. The penalties for late/missed FBARs can be INSANE (like $10,000 per account per year), but the Streamlined program lets you catch up without penalties if your failure to file wasn't willful. I went through this last year after realizing I should have been filing FBARs for 5 years. You file your past FBARs, certify that your failure was non-willful, and you're good. Much better than waiting for them to find you!
Thanks for bringing this up! Does anyone know if they still require 6 years of back FBARs for the Streamlined program? And do you need to amend all your tax returns too, or just file the missing FBARs?
Yes, the Streamlined program still requires 3 years of delinquent tax returns and 6 years of FBARs. You'll need to file amended returns (1040X) for any years where you had unreported foreign income, plus all the missing FBARs going back 6 years. The key is certifying that your non-compliance was non-willful - basically that you didn't know you had these filing requirements. It's definitely worth doing if you qualify, given how severe the FBAR penalties can be!
You might be able to call them at 800-908-4490 to get help with access. but goodluck getting thru to anyone š
oof that's rough. maybe try calling first thing in the morning? heard wait times are shorter then
Miguel Ramos
I'm currently going through a similar adoption process and wanted to share what our financial advisor told us about HSA planning with adopted kids on Medicaid. One strategy we're considering is keeping our HSA contributions at the family level now while the kids are young, then potentially switching some of our adopted children to our HDHP when they age out of the adoption Medicaid benefits (usually around 18-21 depending on your state). This gives us flexibility to use HSA funds for their medical expenses once they're on our plan, while still maximizing our tax advantages during the years when Medicaid covers most of their needs. Just something to think about for long-term planning! Also, our adoption worker mentioned that some families find it helpful to set up a separate savings account specifically for medical expenses that might not be fully covered by Medicaid - things like travel for specialist appointments, alternative therapies, or medical equipment that might have waiting periods. That way you're not tempted to accidentally use HSA funds inappropriately.
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Hunter Hampton
ā¢This is really smart long-term thinking! I hadn't considered the transition period when the kids age out of Medicaid. Do you know if there are any restrictions on when you can add dependents to your HDHP, or can you typically do it during any open enrollment period? The separate savings account idea is also excellent - it would give us a clear way to budget for those "gap" expenses without accidentally mixing up what we can and can't use our HSA for. We're already seeing some of those costs during the adoption process with things like travel to visit the kids and some specialized evaluations that aren't fully covered. Thanks for sharing your advisor's insights - it's so helpful to hear from someone else going through this process!
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Ava Martinez
This is such a thoughtful question, and it sounds like you're really doing your homework on this! I'm a CPA and work with a lot of families in similar situations. The good news is that you can absolutely keep your HSA and continue maximizing contributions. The key point that others have touched on is correct - your HSA eligibility is based on YOUR coverage under a qualifying HDHP, not your dependents' coverage. As long as you, your wife, and your biological daughter remain on your HDHP, you can continue contributing at the family rate ($7,750 for 2025). Just remember the "tax dependent" rule for HSA distributions - you can only use HSA funds tax-free for qualified medical expenses of people who are your tax dependents AND covered under your HDHP. So while your adopted children will be your tax dependents, since they'll be on Medicaid rather than your HDHP, you can't use HSA funds for their medical expenses without tax consequences. One additional consideration: make sure to review your HDHP's family coverage. Some plans have specific enrollment requirements about adding new dependents. You'll want to coordinate with HR about whether you want to add the adopted children to your HDHP immediately or keep them on Medicaid. In many cases, keeping them on Medicaid is actually better coverage for kids who may have ongoing medical needs from their foster care experience. Congratulations on your growing family!
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