


Ask the community...
To all those having trouble reaching a human at IRS. I just ran across this video that gave me a shortcut to reach a human. Hope it helps! https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c
I've been waiting 28 weeks now with the same code 971 on my transcript! It's so frustrating not knowing what's happening. I called the multiple times but they just keep saying "it's being processed" with no real timeline. Has anyone actually gotten through to someone who could give more specific info about why it's taking so long? At this point I'm wondering if there's an issue with my that I don't know about.
28 weeks is absolutely insane! I'm only at 12 weeks and already going crazy π€ Have you tried that taxr.ai thing everyone's mentioning? Sounds like it might give you more insight into what's actually causing the delay rather than the generic "it's " response from phone reps. At least then you'd know if there's a specific issue or if you're just stuck in the normal backlog hell
I'm dealing with the exact same situation! Got my 570 code about 10 days ago with a similar refund amount ($7,200). Like others have mentioned, it seems like larger refunds with child tax credits and education expenses automatically trigger these reviews. What's helped me stay sane is understanding that the 570 code without a 971 code usually means they're just doing an internal verification and don't need anything from you. The hardest part is just the waiting and not knowing exactly when it'll resolve. One thing I've learned from this thread is to check my transcript every Friday morning since my cycle code ends in 05. I've also been keeping an eye out for any mail from the IRS, though it sounds like if they needed additional documentation, we would have seen a 971 code by now. Hang in there! Based on everyone's experiences here, it seems like 4-8 weeks is pretty typical for these reviews to complete. I know it's frustrating when you're counting on that money, but at least we know this is a common process and not necessarily a sign that anything is wrong with our returns.
This is so helpful to read! I'm in almost the exact same boat - filed early February, got the 570 code recently, and my refund is about $6,900. I also claimed education credits for the first time and have child tax credits, so it sounds like we're all hitting the same review triggers. The Friday check schedule is a great tip - I didn't know about the cycle codes! It's oddly comforting to know this is such a common experience, even though the waiting is brutal when you have bills piling up. Thanks for sharing your timeline and keeping everyone updated on what to expect.
I went through this exact same situation last year with a $7,400 refund that included child tax credits and education expenses. The 570 code appeared on my transcript in early March and I was freaking out because I really needed that money for some home repairs. What helped me was understanding that the 570 code without a 971 code is actually a good sign - it means they're doing an internal review and likely don't need any additional documentation from you. The date you see (03-03-2025) isn't when something will happen, it's just part of their internal processing cycle. My timeline was: 570 code appeared March 8th, transcript updated every Friday (I had a 05 cycle code too), and then on April 19th I suddenly had a 571 code which released the hold and my refund was deposited 3 days later. Total time was about 6 weeks from when the 570 appeared. The hardest part is just the waiting and uncertainty, but based on your situation (first time claiming your daughter after divorce + education credits), this is pretty standard verification. Keep checking your transcript on Friday mornings and try to be patient. I know it's easier said than done when bills are piling up, but the refund will come through!
Thank you so much for sharing your timeline! This is exactly what I needed to hear. 6 weeks feels manageable when you put it that way, and knowing that the 570 without 971 is actually a good sign really helps calm my nerves. I've been checking daily but I'll switch to just Fridays like you suggested. It's reassuring to know that even though this feels scary, it's actually a pretty routine process for situations like mine. I really appreciate you taking the time to break down your experience - it gives me hope that this will resolve soon!
This entire discussion has been incredibly eye-opening! As someone who's been contributing to Roth IRAs for several years but never fully understood the loss deduction rules, I had no idea how complicated this topic really is. The most important takeaways I'm getting are: 1) You currently can't deduct Roth IRA losses anyway due to the TCJA suspension through 2025, 2) Even when it becomes available again, you'd have to close ALL your Roth accounts everywhere, and 3) The long-term opportunity cost of giving up decades of tax-free growth almost never makes it worthwhile. What really struck me was the example someone gave about $15,000 growing to $225,000 over 40 years tax-free. When you think about it that way, sacrificing that kind of potential for what would likely be a relatively small deduction seems like penny-wise but pound-foolish thinking. For anyone else reading this who might be in a similar situation with scattered accounts showing paper losses - it sounds like the smart move is to contact your current brokerages to get your contribution history sorted out, consider rebalancing within your existing accounts, and focus on the long-term retirement picture rather than short-term tax strategies. The Roth IRA is too valuable a retirement tool to give up lightly.
You've really summarized this complex topic perfectly! As someone who's also been contributing to Roth IRAs but never fully understood these rules, this discussion has been incredibly valuable. The penny-wise but pound-foolish comparison is spot-on - it's easy to get caught up in trying to optimize for immediate tax benefits and lose sight of the bigger retirement picture. What I found most helpful was learning that even in extreme loss scenarios, the math almost never works out in favor of closing accounts. The current suspension of deductions through 2025 just makes it even more of a non-issue for now. By the time these deductions become available again in 2026, hopefully most of our accounts will have recovered anyway! I'm definitely taking the advice to heart about contacting my brokerage to get my contribution history organized and focusing on rebalancing rather than drastic measures. It's reassuring to know that what feels like a complicated mess of scattered accounts and paper losses is actually a pretty common situation with straightforward solutions - just not the dramatic "close everything" solution that initially seems appealing.
Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a somewhat similar situation - I have Roth IRAs at two different brokerages and was wondering about the loss deduction after seeing my balances drop earlier this year. The key insight for me is understanding that this isn't really about tax optimization at all - it's about retirement planning fundamentals. Even if the deduction were available (which it isn't through 2025), giving up the Roth IRA structure permanently would be trading away decades of tax-free compound growth for what amounts to a one-time, relatively small tax break. For the original poster's situation with the E*Trade β Robinhood β Vanguard transfers, I'd echo what others have said about contacting Vanguard first. When my employer changed 401k providers a few years ago, I was amazed at how much historical data transferred over that I thought was lost forever. One thing I'm curious about - has anyone here actually spoken to a tax professional specifically about this scenario? While the community advice has been excellent, I'm wondering if there are any edge cases or nuances that only a CPA who specializes in retirement accounts might know about. Though given the current suspension of these deductions, it might be a moot point until 2026 anyway.
Great question about speaking with tax professionals! I actually did consult with a CPA who specializes in retirement accounts about this exact scenario last year when I was considering the same thing. She confirmed everything that's been discussed here - the current suspension through 2025, the requirement to close ALL Roth accounts, and the 2% AGI floor limitation when it comes back. What was particularly helpful was that she walked me through some real numbers to show why it almost never makes sense. Even in cases where someone has significant losses, the combination of losing the Roth structure forever plus the limited deduction benefit (when available) makes it a poor financial decision for most people. She also mentioned something interesting - because Roth contributions are made with after-tax dollars, the IRS views losses in these accounts differently than traditional retirement account losses. The whole process is designed to be restrictive precisely because they don't want people gaming the system by claiming losses on accounts that were supposed to grow tax-free. For anyone still on the fence about this, I'd definitely recommend getting professional advice, but based on current tax law and the math involved, the professional consensus seems to be overwhelmingly against closing accounts just to claim losses.
Something similar happened to me and it turned out I had checked the wrong box on step 2 of the W4. I had checked 2(b) which is the "use the multiple jobs worksheet" option instead of 2(c) "if there is only one job total". This made the system think I needed to withhold at a higher rate to cover multiple jobs. Rookie mistake but easy to fix!
Which tax software do you recommend for figuring this stuff out? I've been using TurboTax but it doesn't really help with W4 planning during the year.
The W4 form definitely takes some getting used to after the old allowances system! Based on your situation, I'd suggest double-checking a few key areas: 1. **Step 1**: Make sure you selected "Married filing jointly" not "Single or Married filing separately" 2. **Step 2(c)**: Since your spouse doesn't work, you should check the box that says "If there is only one job total" 3. **Step 3**: Enter $2,000 for your child (qualifying children under 17 get the full Child Tax Credit) Missing any of these could easily cause the overwithholding you're experiencing. The good news is you can submit a corrected W4 to your payroll department anytime - it usually takes effect within 1-2 pay periods. For future reference, the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator tool on their website is really helpful for getting your withholding dialed in perfectly. It walks you through your exact situation and tells you exactly what to put on each line of the W4. Don't worry about the money already over-withheld - you'll get it back as a refund when you file your taxes!
This is such great advice! I'm a newcomer here but dealing with a similar situation after starting my first "real" job out of college. The W4 form is honestly so confusing compared to what I expected. Quick question - when you submit a corrected W4, do you need to give any explanation to HR about why you're changing it, or do they just process it without questions? I'm a bit embarrassed that I messed it up initially and don't want to seem incompetent to my new employer. Also, is there a way to estimate how much extra I might get per paycheck once the correction takes effect? I'm trying to budget better and it would be helpful to know roughly what to expect.
Zoe Papanikolaou
The r/TruistBank community has a pinned thread about this exact issue. According to multiple reports there, Truist has never released IRS refunds early in the last three tax seasons. The IRS Where's My Refund tool (https://www.irs.gov/refunds) will show the official DDD, but according to community data, Truist customers should always plan for that exact date. Some users reported that deposits sometimes don't appear until late afternoon on the DDD, so don't panic if you don't see it first thing in the morning.
0 coins
Jessica Nguyen
Thanks for all the detailed responses! As someone new to tracking tax refunds this closely, this has been incredibly helpful. It sounds like Truist is pretty much locked into their exact DDD policy with no wiggle room. I appreciate the specific references to their internal policies and regulations - that gives me the confidence I need to plan my business cash flow knowing the funds will arrive exactly on 2/28, not before. The suggestion about maintaining accounts at different banks for different purposes is interesting too, though probably overkill for my situation. I'll definitely bookmark that r/TruistBank thread for future reference!
0 coins
Finley Garrett
β’Welcome to the community! It's great to see how thorough everyone has been with their responses. As someone who's also dealt with the uncertainty of deposit timing, I can definitely relate to wanting that precision for business planning. One thing I'd add is that it might be worth setting up account alerts with Truist so you get notified the moment the deposit hits - that way you don't have to keep checking manually on 2/28. Also, if this is a recurring need for your business, you might want to document this timing pattern for future tax seasons. The consistency everyone's mentioned actually makes Truist pretty predictable, which can be valuable for planning purposes even if they don't offer early deposits.
0 coins