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Personal therapy is DEFINITELY not deductible as a business expense, full stop. I'm an enrolled agent, and I've seen multiple therapists get flagged for audit over exactly this issue. The IRS consistently disallows these deductions unless the therapy is explicitly required for licensure (and even then it's scrutinized). The "ordinary and necessary" test fails because personal therapy primarily benefits you personally, not your business. The fact that it might make you a better therapist is secondary and too attenuated for tax purposes. You wouldn't deduct your daily meditation practice either, even though it might make you more present with clients. If you want to deduct professional development, take actual continuing education courses or clinical supervision that focuses specifically on cases and techniques.
I appreciate seeing different perspectives on this issue, especially from the enrolled agent. As someone who's been wrestling with this exact question, I think the key takeaway is that the IRS really focuses on the primary purpose of the expense. What I'm gathering is that there might be a middle ground approach: instead of trying to deduct personal therapy sessions, perhaps we should focus on clearly deductible professional development like clinical supervision, consultation groups, or continuing education that specifically addresses therapeutic techniques and case management. For those who do choose to deduct portions of therapy costs, it seems like meticulous documentation is absolutely critical - and even then, you're taking on audit risk. The medical expense deduction route mentioned by @Camila Jordan actually sounds like a safer approach for self-employed therapists, especially if you're already paying significant out-of-pocket medical expenses. Has anyone looked into whether peer consultation groups or case consultation with other professionals might be a cleaner way to get similar professional benefits while having a clearer business purpose for tax deduction?
The confusion with those dates is totally understandable! I went through something similar last year with a 570 hold that lasted about 6 weeks. Here's what I learned: The "AS OF" date (Mar 10, 2025 in your case) is basically when the IRS system last processed or updated your account - it doesn't mean your return will be done by then. It's more like a timestamp than a deadline. The "RECEIVED DATE" showing Mar 03, 2025 is likely when the IRS system internally processed your e-filed return, not when you actually submitted it in February. There can be delays between when you file and when it hits their processing queue. For the 570 hold without any accompanying letter codes (like 971), it's usually just a routine review - could be income matching, math verification, or credit eligibility checks. The fact that you filed jointly might mean they're just cross-referencing both of your income documents. Most 570 holds I've seen resolve within 4-8 weeks automatically. Since yours started around Feb 20th, you're still within the normal timeframe. The frustrating part is there's really nothing you can do but wait unless it goes past 8 weeks. Keep checking your transcript weekly - when it resolves, you'll see code 571 (hold released) followed by 846 (refund issued). Hang in there!
I'm dealing with the exact same frustrating situation! Filed in early February and have had a 570 hold since mid-February. The dates on these transcripts are so confusing - mine keeps showing different "AS OF" dates that seem to change randomly. What's helped me understand what's actually happening is using taxr.ai to analyze my transcript. It broke down all those confusing codes and dates in plain English and explained that my 570 hold was likely due to routine income verification (they're matching my W-2s with what I reported). It even gave me an estimated timeline based on similar cases, which has been way more helpful than staring at those cryptic IRS codes. The waiting is absolutely brutal, especially when you're expecting a refund for money that's rightfully yours. From what I've learned, most 570 holds resolve automatically within 4-8 weeks, so you're still in the normal timeframe even though it feels like forever. Hang in there - hopefully we'll both see that 571 code (hold released) and 846 (refund issued) soon! š¤
Thanks for sharing your experience! It's somewhat reassuring to know I'm not the only one dealing with this frustrating situation. The taxr.ai tool sounds really helpful - I've been trying to decode all these dates and codes myself and it's been driving me crazy. I might give it a try since everyone here seems to have had good results with it. It would be nice to finally understand what's actually happening with my return instead of just stressing about it every day. Hopefully we both get some good news soon with our refunds!
Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through a similar situation last year. The advice here about car downpayments not being deductible for personal use is spot on - I learned this the hard way after spending hours trying to figure out how to claim mine! One thing that might help with your ITIN amendment situation: when you mail Form 1040-X, make sure you write "ITIN RENEWAL" clearly at the top of the form. This helps the IRS processing center route it to the right department faster. Also, send it certified mail so you have proof of delivery - amendments can get lost in the mail and you'll want to be able to track it. The 16-20 week processing time mentioned earlier is unfortunately accurate. I'd recommend checking the IRS "Where's My Amended Return" tool online after about 3 weeks to make sure they received it. Good luck with your first year doing taxes yourselves - it gets easier once you understand the basics!
Has anyone here actually consulted with a tax attorney on this? I'm in a similar situation and my tax attorney told me this was a terrible idea. He said the IRS scrutinizes below-market sales from LLCs much more closely than individual-to-individual transactions, especially if there's no clear business purpose.
I did! My attorney actually gave different advice. She said it could work but recommended documenting a legitimate business purpose for the reduced price - like avoiding realtor fees, guaranteed quick closing, as-is sale with no inspection contingencies, etc. She said those factors could justify some discount without it being classified as a gift.
I'm dealing with something very similar right now - buying a property from a family friend's LLC at below market value. After reading through all these responses, I'm realizing this is way more complicated than I initially thought! From what I'm gathering, the key issues seem to be: 1. The LLC selling below market creates a potential gift tax situation for the owner personally 2. Mortgage lenders may have issues with the LLC structure vs individual gifts of equity 3. Documentation is absolutely critical - appraisals, business justifications, proper contracts I'm curious - for those who've been through this, did you end up structuring it as a straight sale from the LLC, or did your friend distribute the property to himself first and then sell it individually? And did anyone run into issues with their mortgage lender not accepting the arrangement? Also wondering if anyone has experience with how long the IRS gift tax reporting process takes if you do need to file Form 709. My friend is worried about potential delays or complications that might affect our closing timeline. Thanks for all the detailed responses - this thread has been incredibly helpful in understanding what we're getting into!
Ravi Sharma
Has anyone tried amending previous returns to optimize how capital losses were applied? I'm in a similar situation but wondering if I should have used my losses differently in past years.
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NebulaNomad
ā¢You generally can't amend returns just to "optimize" how you used capital losses if you reported everything correctly the first time. Amendments are for correcting errors, not changing strategies after the fact.
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AstroAdventurer
This is exactly the kind of situation where having a clear understanding of joint filing benefits really pays off! Your $50,000 capital loss carryover will definitely offset your wife's $5,000 capital gains completely when you file jointly - that's one of the major advantages of joint filing. What's great about your situation is that after using $5,000 of your carryover to offset her gains, you'll still be able to deduct the standard $3,000 against your ordinary income, leaving you with $42,000 to carry forward to next year. So essentially, you're getting the maximum benefit from your losses this year. One thing to keep in mind for future planning - if your wife continues to have capital gains in upcoming years, your remaining carryover will continue to offset those gains first before you can take the $3,000 ordinary income deduction. This could actually work out well for you both since capital gains are typically taxed at lower rates than ordinary income anyway. Make sure to keep good records of your carryover amounts each year so you can track how much you have remaining. Most tax software handles this automatically if you stick with the same program year after year.
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