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Amina Sy

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I'm also an international student and cryptos are taxed weirdly in US. 2 important things to understand - your TAX RESIDENCY status is completely different from your IMMIGRATION status. You could be nonresident for immigration (F1 student) but still be resident for tax purposes if you stay in US long enough (substantial presence test). This affects which form you fill - 1040 vs 1040NR. Also even if youre nonresident, ANY crypto you sell while physically present in US is US-sourced income taxable here. Doesnt matter if your exchange thinks your foreign or not, you still gotta report it!

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Oliver Fischer

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This is so confusing. So if I bought Bitcoin while in my home country but sold it while studying in the US, it's US-sourced income? What if I bought it in the US but sold after returning home? The location rules for crypto seem really unclear.

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Romeo Quest

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The location rules for crypto are indeed complex! Generally, if you sold crypto while physically present in the US, it's considered US-sourced income regardless of where you originally purchased it. So your first scenario (bought abroad, sold in US) would likely be US-sourced and taxable here. For your second scenario (bought in US, sold after returning home), it gets trickier. The IRS generally considers the location where the sale transaction occurs as the determining factor for sourcing. If you executed the sale while physically outside the US, it might not be US-sourced income, but this can depend on various factors including which exchange you used and how the transaction was processed. The safest approach is to consult the IRS guidelines or speak with a tax professional who specializes in international student tax issues, especially since these rules can have significant implications for your tax obligations.

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Andre Lefebvre

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As someone who went through a very similar situation last year, I completely understand your confusion! The key thing to remember is that the forms you receive from different platforms don't determine your actual tax filing requirements - your immigration and tax residency status does. Since you're an international grad student, you'll most likely need to file Form 1040NR (not 1040) regardless of what Coinbase provided you. The reason TD Ameritrade sent you 1042S is because they correctly identified you as a non-resident alien, while Coinbase may not have your status properly documented in their system. Here's what I'd recommend: First, determine your tax residency status using the substantial presence test (but remember F-1 students have an exemption for the first 5 calendar years). Then file 1040NR and report all your crypto transactions using Form 8949, just like you would attach it to a regular 1040. The most important thing is accurate reporting on your actual tax return - don't worry too much about the inconsistency in the forms you received from different platforms. What matters is that you report all your US-source income correctly as a non-resident alien.

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Jade Lopez

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This is really helpful advice, thank you! I'm in my second year as an F-1 student, so I should definitely qualify for the student exemption from the substantial presence test. One thing I'm still unclear about - when you say "report all your crypto transactions using Form 8949," do I need to list every single buy/sell transaction, or can I summarize similar transactions? I had probably 50+ small trades throughout the year and I'm worried about making the form incredibly long. Also, did you run into any issues with the IRS when your actual filing (1040NR) didn't match the forms your exchanges provided?

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Austin Leonard

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Here's a simple example to help understand blended/effective tax rates: Let's say you're married filing jointly with $250,000 taxable income. Your marginal rate is 24% (based on 2023 brackets), but you don't pay 24% on all $250,000. You pay: - 10% on first $22,000 = $2,200 - 12% on next $67,450 = $8,094 - 22% on next $101,300 = $22,286 - 24% on final $59,250 = $14,220 Total tax: $46,800 Blended/effective rate: $46,800 รท $250,000 = 18.7% Your "tax bracket" is 24% but you're actually paying 18.7% overall!

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Liam Cortez

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OK this example really helps put it into perspective! No wonder my blended rate is so much lower than my tax bracket. Does TurboTax show this calculation somewhere in the final review? I feel like they should make this more obvious since so many of us are confused about it.

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Austin Leonard

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TurboTax does show this calculation, but they don't make it very obvious. In the desktop version, look for the "Tax Tools" menu and then "Tax Summary" - it should have a breakdown of your income by bracket. In the online version, check the "Review" section and look for "Tax Calculation" or something similar. I agree they should make it clearer - many people don't understand they're only paying their highest rate on a portion of their income, not all of it. This is why you'll often hear people say things like "I don't want a raise because it'll push me into a higher tax bracket" - which is a fundamental misunderstanding of how our tax system works.

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Anita George

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I feel like high schools should teach this basic tax info! I went years thinking I was being taxed at my highest bracket rate on ALL my income. Literally nobody explained the progressive system to me until I was 30.

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Abigail Spencer

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100% agree. I'm a high school math teacher and I've been fighting to add a personal finance unit that includes tax calculations. The pushback I get is "it's too complicated" or "that's what tax preparers are for" - but this is such basic knowledge everyone should have.

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Madison King

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@Abigail Spencer That s'so frustrating! Personal finance education is desperately needed. Even something as simple as explaining marginal vs effective tax rates could save people so much confusion and stress. I see posts like this all the time where people are genuinely worried they re'doing something wrong with their taxes when they just don t'understand the progressive system. Keep fighting the good fight - maybe you could start with a simple example like the one Austin posted above to show administrators how accessible this information can be when explained clearly.

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Dmitry Petrov

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Has anyone dealt with leaving a company but negotiating an extension on the exercise period? Most standard option agreements only give you 90 days after leaving to exercise, but I've heard some companies are flexible on this, especially when options are underwater.

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Ava Williams

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I successfully negotiated a 2-year extension at my last company. Approach your HR or finance team and make the case that the 90-day window is punitive when options are underwater. Many companies are becoming more flexible about this since it's a retention tool that costs them nothing when the stock is below strike price.

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Oscar O'Neil

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One additional consideration that might help with your decision - if you're planning to leave the company anyway, you could potentially negotiate with your employer to extend the exercise window beyond the typical 90-day post-employment period. This would give you more time to see how the company performs with that Q3 product launch you mentioned. Also, make sure you understand exactly what type of options you have (ISO vs NSO) as this affects the tax treatment. With ISOs, you generally have better tax advantages if you hold the stock for at least one year after exercise and two years after grant date to qualify for long-term capital gains treatment. Given that you're essentially guaranteed a loss if you exercise now, it might be worth having a conversation with your company about either repricing the options to current FMV or extending your exercise window. Many companies are becoming more flexible about this, especially in situations like yours where the employee would be financially penalized through no fault of their own.

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This is really helpful advice! I hadn't thought about negotiating an extension on the exercise period. Given that I'm leaving next month and the options are underwater, it seems like a win-win - the company doesn't lose anything by extending since the options are worthless right now, and I get more time to see if that Q3 product launch actually turns things around. Do you have any tips on how to approach this conversation with HR? Should I frame it as a retention tool even though I'm already leaving, or focus more on the fact that the current situation puts me at a financial disadvantage through no fault of my own? Also, you mentioned ISO vs NSO treatment - mine are ISOs, so I'd need to hold for a year after exercise to get the better tax treatment. An extension would definitely help with that timing if I do decide to exercise.

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Nia Thompson

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11 Has anyone here actually been audited because of stock stuff? I'm paranoid I'm going to mess up reporting my vested RSUs and get in trouble.

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Nia Thompson

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5 I had an "examination" (not a full audit) of my 2019 return because the cost basis reporting for some stock sales was incorrect. My company reported the income portion on my W-2 but the 1099-B from the broker didn't reflect that, so it looked like I was underreporting gains. Just had to explain the situation and provide documentation.

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Evelyn Kelly

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The key thing to understand is that the IRS treats stock compensation as income when you receive something of economic value, not when you convert it to cash. With RSUs, the moment they vest, you legally own shares worth their current market value - that's considered compensation just like your salary. Think of it this way: if your employer gave you a $1000 bonus but paid it in gold bars instead of cash, you'd still owe taxes on that $1000 even if you kept the gold. The IRS sees vested stock the same way. The system actually makes sense from a policy perspective - otherwise people could defer taxes indefinitely by never selling their shares. But I totally get why it feels unfair when you're suddenly owing taxes on "paper gains" that you can't easily access! Pro tip: Most companies will automatically sell some of your shares at vesting to cover the tax withholding, so you won't be completely stuck paying out of pocket.

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Ryan Kim

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That gold bar analogy really helps it click! I was thinking about it all wrong - focusing on when I get cash instead of when I receive value. Makes way more sense now why the IRS treats vesting as a taxable event. Quick follow-up question though - you mentioned most companies automatically sell shares to cover withholding. Is there usually an option to pay the taxes out of pocket instead and keep all the shares? I'm wondering if that might be better long-term if I believe the stock will appreciate.

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QuantumQuasar

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I'm so glad you posted this question because I was literally in the exact same boat just a few months ago! Got a Treasury check completely out of the blue and spent days worrying it was some kind of elaborate scam. After reading through all these responses, it sounds like you're dealing with a completely legitimate IRS adjustment refund. The fact that it has proper security features, your correct name and address, and came from the US Treasury are all really good signs. What really convinced me when I was in your situation was learning that the IRS processes literally millions of these adjustment checks every year - it's way more common than most people realize. They're constantly running automated reviews of past returns and catching errors that work in taxpayers' favor. My advice would be to go ahead and deposit it, but definitely keep copies of everything and watch for that explanation notice everyone's mentioned. From what I've read here, it should arrive within 2-3 weeks and will tell you exactly what was adjusted and why. The peace of mind you'll get from finally understanding what the check is for will be totally worth the short wait for the paperwork!

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Mia Green

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This whole thread has been incredibly reassuring! I was actually in a similar situation just last week - received an unexpected Treasury check for about $300 and was completely paranoid about it being fraudulent. After reading everyone's experiences here, I decided to go ahead and deposit it. Sure enough, I got a CP12 notice about 10 days later explaining that the IRS had corrected a calculation error on my Child and Dependent Care Credit from my 2022 return. Turns out I had miscalculated my qualifying expenses and was owed more than I originally claimed. The whole process was exactly like what everyone described - legitimate Treasury check with proper security features, followed by the detailed explanation notice. It's amazing how common these adjustment refunds actually are! Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it really helped me feel confident about depositing the check instead of letting it sit around while I worried about it.

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Mateo Hernandez

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This is such a reassuring thread to read! I actually received an unexpected Treasury check about 2 months ago and went through the same anxiety you're experiencing right now. Mine turned out to be completely legitimate - the IRS had reviewed my 2022 return and found I was eligible for additional education credits that I hadn't claimed. What really put my mind at ease was doing a few quick verification steps before depositing: I checked all the security features (watermarks, microprinting, etc.), confirmed my personal information was correct, and verified the check format matched legitimate Treasury checks I could find examples of online. The explanation notice (CP11 in my case) arrived about 2 weeks after I received the check, just like everyone else has described. It clearly explained which tax year was adjusted, what credits were recalculated, and even included the interest they added for the processing delay. Based on everything you've described - proper security features, correct personal information, and it being from the US Treasury - this sounds exactly like the routine adjustment refunds that the IRS processes constantly. I'd recommend going ahead and depositing it, but definitely keep documentation of everything. The explanation paperwork will arrive soon and clear up any remaining questions you have about where the refund came from!

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