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I'm dealing with a very similar situation with my real estate partnership K1s, and this thread has been incredibly enlightening. While my situation involves real estate rather than oil & gas, I'm seeing the same pattern where different CPAs handle partnership income adjustments inconsistently for Schedule SE purposes. What really resonates with me is the point about needing specialized knowledge. My regular CPA has been great for straightforward tax situations, but when it comes to these partnership complexities, I'm realizing they're just not equipped to handle the nuances properly. For those asking about finding specialists - I've had good luck checking with your state CPA society. Many have directories where you can search by specialty area. Also, if you know other investors in similar partnerships, asking for referrals has been valuable. People who've dealt with these issues successfully are usually happy to share their CPA recommendations. One thing I'd add to the documentation advice - make sure you keep records of any conversations with your CPAs about these issues, especially if they're giving you conflicting guidance. Having that paper trail can be helpful if you need to justify your position later, either to a new CPA or potentially to the IRS. The potential savings mentioned here ($7K-$13K) really drive home why it's worth the effort to get this right. Thanks to everyone who's shared their expertise - this has given me the confidence to pursue amendments for my own situation.
This is really valuable insight about real estate partnerships having similar issues! I had no idea these Schedule SE adjustment problems extended beyond oil & gas. It makes me wonder how many investors across different partnership types are unknowingly overpaying on self-employment taxes because their CPAs aren't familiar with the specialized rules. Your point about documenting conversations with CPAs is excellent advice. I wish I had done that with my former CPA - it would have made it much easier to explain the inconsistency to my current one. The state CPA society directory suggestion is brilliant - I never thought to search by specialty area. I just assumed all CPAs would know these rules, but clearly that's not the case. It's becoming obvious that for partnership investments, you really need someone who deals with these structures regularly. Thanks for sharing your experience with real estate partnerships. It's reassuring to know others are successfully navigating similar amendment processes. The potential savings really do justify the effort to find the right professional and get this corrected.
This entire thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone who's been struggling with similar K1 issues from a working interest partnership, I can't thank everyone enough for sharing their expertise and experiences. What really stands out to me is how this situation perfectly illustrates the importance of getting the right professional help. The fact that two different CPAs can handle the exact same K1 information so differently is honestly shocking - and expensive for taxpayers who get the wrong treatment. For the original poster, I'd definitely echo the advice about finding a CPA who specializes in energy taxation. The general consensus here seems clear that your new CPA is handling this correctly by subtracting IDC and depletion from Box 14a for Schedule SE purposes. One additional resource I'd suggest is reaching out to the partnership itself. Many oil & gas partnerships have relationships with tax professionals who understand their specific structures and can provide guidance or even referrals to qualified CPAs in your area. They deal with these K1 questions all the time and usually want their partners to handle things correctly. The potential savings you're looking at ($7K-$13K) definitely justify the time and effort to get this sorted out properly. Don't let your former CPA's unwillingness to address this stop you from pursuing what sounds like legitimate refunds. With all the resources and expert opinions shared in this thread, you've got solid ground to stand on when filing those amendments.
I feel your pain! I'm also in PA and got the same 8-12 week notice. From what I've seen in other forums, it's mostly just a CYA message they send out. Most people I know got their PA refunds within 3-4 weeks of the processed status. The state systems are just slower this year because of budget cuts and staff shortages. Keep checking your account but try not to stress too much - it'll come! š¤
Thanks for the reassurance! I was starting to panic thinking I'd actually have to wait the full 12 weeks. Good to know it's probably just their standard disclaimer. I'll try to be patient but man, it's hard when you're counting on that money! š Did you end up getting yours within the 3-4 week timeframe?
Hey! I'm in the same exact situation - PA resident here and got that same scary 8-12 week message after my return showed processed. I was freaking out too because I really need this refund ASAP. But after reading through all these comments, I'm feeling a bit better knowing it's probably just their standard warning. Has anyone actually tried that taxr.ai thing people keep mentioning? I'm tempted to give it a shot for a dollar just to get some peace of mind about when this refund might actually hit my account. The daily bank account checking is driving me crazy! šµāš«
Yeah I tried taxr.ai after seeing everyone talk about it here and honestly it was super helpful! For just $1 it gave me way more detail than the PA tax website ever did. It analyzed my transcript and actually showed me I had a minor processing hold that should clear within 2 weeks. Way better than just staring at that vague "8-12 weeks" message and wondering what's actually happening. Definitely worth it for the peace of mind - at least now I know what's going on instead of just refreshing my bank app 20 times a day š
I had this same issue and found that Credit Karma (now Cash App Taxes) lets you file multiple state returns for FREE. The interface isn't as nice as TurboTax but saved me hundreds last year. But honestly you should double check the minimum filing requirements - I only ended up needing to file in 6 states out of the 15 I worked in because most had minimum income thresholds I didn't meet.
As someone who works in tax preparation, I can confirm what others have said about minimum filing thresholds - this is crucial for touring musicians! Here's a quick reality check: many states have thresholds ranging from $600 to $3,000 before you're required to file. Some key ones for touring acts: Texas has no state income tax, Florida has no state income tax, Nevada has no state income tax, so you're already down to 20 potential states right there. For the states where you do need to file, I'd strongly recommend against the "ignore small amounts" advice - while enforcement is rare, you don't want surprise bills with penalties years later. The better approach is to use the minimum threshold rules properly. One thing I haven't seen mentioned: if your wife received W-2s from venues (rather than 1099s), some states have different rules for employees vs. independent contractors. W-2 income often has different thresholds or may be exempt under reciprocity agreements with your home state. Before paying for expensive software, spend an hour researching each state's actual requirements. You might find you only need to file in 8-10 states instead of all 23.
This is incredibly helpful! You mentioned that W-2s vs 1099s can make a difference - my wife got a mix of both depending on the venue. Some smaller venues paid her as an independent contractor (1099) while larger venues treated the band as employees (W-2). Could you clarify how this affects state filing requirements? Does W-2 income from out-of-state venues automatically get covered under reciprocity agreements, or do I still need to check each state individually? We're based in Ohio if that helps with the reciprocity question. Also, do you have any recommendations for finding those minimum thresholds quickly? Going through 20+ state tax websites individually sounds like a nightmare!
Has anyone had success requesting abatement online through the IRS account portal rather than mailing in Form 843? I thought I saw something about being able to do it electronically now but can't find clear instructions.
Based on your situation, you have an excellent case for both penalty and interest abatement. Since you maintained perfect compliance for years while overseas and the IRS clearly had your correct address on your filed returns, this is a textbook example of IRS error causing unnecessary penalties and interest. Here's what I'd recommend doing immediately: 1. **Get your account transcripts** - Download transcripts showing your filed returns with the correct address vs. the notices with the wrong address. This is your smoking gun evidence. 2. **File Form 843** - Request both penalty AND interest abatement. Be very specific about the interest abatement request citing IRC 6404(e) and explain how the IRS error in using the wrong address caused unreasonable delay. 3. **Document everything** - Include copies of your returns showing correct address, copies of notices showing wrong address, and evidence of your clean compliance history. The fact that you paid immediately upon discovering the issue actually strengthens your case - it shows good faith and that you're not trying to avoid payment, just seeking relief from charges that shouldn't have accrued. Don't be surprised if the penalty abatement gets approved quickly (you clearly qualify for First Time Penalty Abatement) but the interest takes longer. Interest abatement has a higher bar but your address documentation should meet the "unreasonable IRS error" standard.
This is exactly the roadmap I needed - thank you so much! I just downloaded my account transcripts and you're absolutely right, the discrepancy between my filed returns and their notices is crystal clear. My 2023 return shows my correct overseas address, but all their notices went to some garbled version of it. One quick question - when you mention citing IRC 6404(e) on Form 843, should I include the actual text of that section or just reference it? I want to make sure I'm being thorough but not overdoing it. Also really appreciate the point about paying first actually helping my case. I was worried I'd shot myself in the foot by not requesting abatement before paying, but it sounds like it might actually work in my favor.
QuantumQuester
Has anyone actually tried the free filing options instead of TurboTax? I'm wondering if this is just a TurboTax issue or if all the tax software has the same problem with 1099s? Here's what I'd try: 1. Download your info from TurboTax if possible 2. Try the IRS Free File options 3. See if the same error occurs Does the 1099 have anything unusual on it that might be triggering the review?
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Yara Nassar
ā¢I tried exactly this last yr w/ a similar situation. Switched from TT to FreeTaxUSA and it worked perfectly! No weird flags, saved $89, and got my refund in 2 wks. The interface isn't as pretty but tbh it was more straightforward for the 1099 stuff. Def worth a try!
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Keisha Williams
ā¢Thank you all for these suggestions! I was getting so stressed about this with April 15th coming up fast. I'm going to try the FreeTaxUSA option tonight (3/27) and if that doesn't work, I'll look into the other suggestions. Such a relief to know I'm not the only one who's dealt with this!
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Zara Shah
I've seen this issue frequently - TurboTax's review system often gets triggered when it sees both W-2 and 1099 income from what appears to be employment-related sources. Before you abandon TurboTax entirely, try this: go to the 1099 section and look for an option to "Override" or "Continue Anyway" - it's usually buried in small text near the review message. The software is being overly cautious, but you can often proceed if you're confident the information is correct. That said, the free filing suggestions above are solid alternatives. Also, make sure your husband's employer didn't make an error - having both forms from the same employer can sometimes indicate a payroll mistake that should be corrected at the source.
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