Class life of Point Of Sale (POS) System for franchise restaurant - 5 or 7 years?
Hey all, I'm a tax guy working at an accounting firm up in the Northeast. I've got this client who's a franchisee for one of those big fast food chains - you know the ones. They just started operations this year and installed a bunch of POS systems throughout their restaurant. I'm trying to figure out the correct depreciable life for these POS systems, and I'm kind of hitting a wall. I've been digging through IRS publication 946 table B-2, and under section 00.12 Information Systems it specifically says POS systems are excluded from that category. But that's where my trail goes cold - I don't see anything else in the publication that would cover these POS systems. So I'm stuck wondering: should I depreciate these over 5 years or 7 years? To be honest, either way I go, my manager probably won't care enough to make me change it (we're swamped with other work). I'm really just curious for my own knowledge at this point. Has anyone dealt with this specific situation before? Any guidance would be appreciated!
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Chloe Delgado
The reason Publication 946 specifically excludes POS systems from the Information Systems category is because they're considered to fall under "57.0 - Distributive Trades and Services" asset class, which has a 7-year recovery period for MACRS. This makes sense because POS systems in a restaurant environment are directly tied to the business operations rather than just being information processing equipment. They're integral to order taking, payment processing, inventory management, and other core business functions. If you look at Revenue Procedure 87-56, it clarifies that equipment used in retail/food service operations generally falls into this category. The key distinction is that these systems are directly involved in the business's revenue-generating activities rather than just supporting back-office functions.
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Ava Harris
•But couldn't you argue that since modern POS systems are essentially computers with specialized software, they should fall under computer equipment with a 5-year life? Especially since technology becomes obsolete so quickly these days?
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Chloe Delgado
•While POS systems do contain computer components, the IRS classification looks at the primary function of the asset in the business context. The computer equipment 5-year classification is generally for standalone computing equipment and general-purpose computers. When the computer equipment is integrated into specialized equipment that serves a specific business function (like processing orders and payments), the asset is classified based on that business function rather than its components. This is similar to how computers embedded in manufacturing equipment follow the recovery period of the equipment they're integrated with, not computer equipment.
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Jacob Lee
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Emily Thompson
•Does it handle special situations like qualified improvement property or Section 179 expensing limits? Our firm has a lot of restaurant clients and the depreciation rules keep changing.
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Elijah Brown
For what it's worth, I've been in tax for 20+ years and consistently use 7 years for restaurant POS systems. The language in Rev. Proc. 87-56 is pretty clear if you look at Asset Class 57.0. Also, consider that franchise agreements typically last 10-20 years, and the POS systems are usually required by the franchisor as part of the agreement. The systems are designed to last substantially longer than general computer equipment.
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Liam O'Reilly
•Thanks for your insight! That's a really good point about the franchise agreement duration and the fact that the franchisor requires specific POS systems. In your experience, do fast food franchisors typically require POS system replacements or major upgrades during the franchise term? Or do they generally last the distance?
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Elijah Brown
•In my experience, most fast food franchisors require major POS upgrades every 5-7 years, but not complete replacements. The hardware components might get swapped out, but that's often handled as repair and maintenance rather than a new capital expenditure. Franchisors are primarily concerned with system uniformity across all locations. They want consistent reporting, menu management, and customer experience. So even if the technology could physically last longer, franchise requirements often dictate the practical useful life.
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Maria Gonzalez
Has anyone dealt with POS systems that have integrated payment processing hardware? Our client has those Square-type systems that combine traditional POS functions with the credit card reader. Would those components potentially be treated differently?
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Natalie Chen
•In my experience, even with integrated payment processing, the entire unit is still treated as a single asset under the 7-year class life. The IRS generally doesn't want us breaking down assets into components unless they're truly separate and distinct assets.
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