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I actually work in retirement plan administration (not giving tax advice though!) and want to clarify something: the failed ADP test refund is technically considered a "corrective distribution" and should be reported as taxable income in the year you receive it. The fact that you already rolled over complicates things but doesn't change the fundamental tax treatment. Your former employer should have communicated with both you and your IRA custodian about how to handle this correctly. They dropped the ball if they didn't.

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Carmen Vega

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This is really helpful! Quick question - does the corrective distribution also get hit with the 10% early withdrawal penalty if you're under 59.5?

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Thais Soares

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Great question! Generally no, corrective distributions from failed ADP tests are NOT subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty, even if you're under 59.5. These are considered plan corrections required by law, not voluntary early withdrawals. However, the distribution is still taxable as ordinary income in the year you receive it. The key is making sure your 1099-R has the correct distribution code (usually "8" for excess contributions) rather than "1" which would incorrectly trigger the penalty. @bb0ad1cb2c9e can probably confirm this from the plan administration side, but this is one of the few situations where you can get money out of a retirement account early without the penalty.

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Rachel Tao

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Just want to add one more thing that might help - make sure to keep detailed records of the entire timeline. Document when you left your employer, when you completed the rollover, when you were notified of the ADP test failure, and when you requested the distribution from your IRA. The IRS sometimes asks for this chronology if there are questions about the tax treatment. Since you're dealing with a corrective distribution after a rollover, having clear documentation will help if you need to explain the situation to a tax professional or during an audit. Also, don't stress too much about the withholding you requested - that was actually smart planning since this distribution will be taxable income. You'll just reconcile any over/under withholding when you file your return.

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Chloe Delgado

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This is excellent advice about documentation! I'm dealing with a similar ADP test situation and hadn't thought about keeping such detailed timeline records. One thing I'd add - also save any emails or letters from your former employer's HR department about the test failure. My company sent a pretty generic notification letter, but it had important details about the calculation methodology and correction timeline that I almost threw away. Turns out those details might be important if there are ever questions about why the distribution was necessary. @28137e76d511 do you know if there's a standard timeframe employers have to notify employees about ADP test failures? Mine took almost 8 months after the plan year ended to let me know.

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Klaus Schmidt

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I had my TurboTax check declined last month and it was a NIGHTMARE to fix. My bank said the routing number didn't match their records for Intuit. When did you try to deposit the check? Did you deposit it in person or through mobile deposit? My bank rejected it through mobile deposit but accepted it when I brought it to a branch and spoke with a manager. Also, was the check printed on standard check paper with security features? There have been some reports of TurboTax sending checks that look more like vouchers, which some banks flag as suspicious.

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Nia Jackson

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I went through this exact same situation in February! My TurboTax check was also declined by my bank initially. What worked for me was getting a three-way call set up between myself, my bank's fraud department, and TurboTax customer service. The bank explained that they couldn't verify the check because Intuit had changed their check verification system after the Credit Karma merger, and many banks hadn't updated their databases yet. TurboTax was able to provide real-time verification to my bank during the call. If your bank won't do a three-way call, ask TurboTax to email you an official "Check Verification Letter" with the check number, amount, and their contact information for bank verification. Most banks will accept this documentation. The whole process took about 2 weeks to resolve, but I did eventually get my refund deposited. Don't give up - this is definitely a known issue they're working to fix!

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Grace Durand

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This is really helpful information! I'm dealing with the same issue right now. How long did it take to get TurboTax to agree to the three-way call? Every time I call their customer service, they just tell me to contact my bank. Also, did your bank charge you any fees for the rejected check? Mine is threatening a $35 returned item fee and I'm worried about additional costs on top of this already stressful situation.

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As a newcomer to independent contractor taxes, this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation doing part-time delivery work and had no idea about the distinction between regular meals (not deductible) vs. travel meals when you're away from your normal business area. One thing I'm still confused about - how do you define your "tax home" or "normal business area" when you're doing deliveries? Is it based on where you live, or the area you typically cover for deliveries? I usually work within about a 30-mile radius of my house, but occasionally get those longer rural routes that take me 50+ miles out. Would love to understand better when those longer trips might qualify for the meal deduction rules that were mentioned. Also really appreciate everyone sharing the different tools and resources - definitely going to look into better mileage tracking since that seems like the bigger opportunity here!

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Dmitry Popov

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Welcome to the contractor tax world! Your "tax home" question is really important to get right. For delivery drivers, your tax home is typically the general area where you conduct your regular business activities - so that 30-mile radius you mentioned would likely be considered your normal business area. The key test for meal deductibility is whether you're traveling far enough from your tax home that you need "substantial rest" during the trip. A 50+ mile rural delivery might qualify if it's genuinely taking you away from your normal operating area for an extended period (like most of a day), but a quick there-and-back trip probably wouldn't meet the threshold even at that distance. The IRS looks at factors like: How long are you away? Do you need to stop for rest? Is this outside your regular service area? It's not just about mileage - it's about whether the trip requires you to be away from your normal business routine long enough that meal expenses become a necessary business cost rather than personal sustenance. Definitely prioritize that mileage tracking though - at 67 cents per mile, even your regular local deliveries add up to significant deductions!

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CosmicCadet

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Just wanted to add another perspective as someone who's been doing independent contractor work for several years. One thing that helped me tremendously was setting up a separate business checking account and business credit card specifically for all my contractor expenses. This makes tracking everything so much cleaner come tax time. For meals specifically, I learned the hard way that the IRS is pretty strict about the business purpose requirement. I used to think any meal while "on the job" counted, but after getting some guidance from a tax pro, I realized most of my regular delivery route meals were just personal expenses that happened to occur during work hours. The real game-changer for me was focusing on the bigger deductions like mileage, phone expenses (you can deduct the business portion), and equipment costs. I also deduct things like insulated delivery bags, phone mounts, and even a portion of my car insurance since I use my vehicle for business. Keep detailed records of everything though - date, amount, business purpose. The IRS loves documentation if they ever come knocking. Good luck with your taxes!

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This is such great practical advice! The separate business accounts idea is brilliant - I've been mixing everything together and it's a nightmare to sort through. Quick question about the phone expense deduction - how do you calculate what percentage is "business use" for delivery work? I use my phone for GPS navigation, communicating with dispatch, and taking photos of deliveries, but also personal stuff obviously. Is there a standard percentage contractors typically use, or do you need to track actual usage somehow?

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As someone who went through this exact process two years ago, I'd strongly recommend starting with the IRS's own list of authorized e-file providers for 1040-NR forms. You can find this on the IRS website under "Free File Software" - they have a specific section for nonresident returns. One important thing that hasn't been mentioned yet: make sure you understand the difference between your visa status and your tax residency status. Just because you're on a work visa doesn't automatically make you a nonresident for tax purposes. The substantial presence test is what really determines this, and if you've been in the US for most of the tax year, you might actually need to file as a resident alien (Form 1040) instead of a nonresident (1040-NR). I'd recommend using the IRS's substantial presence test calculator first to confirm which form you actually need to file. This could save you from having to amend your return later if you file the wrong form type. Also, if your employer issued you a W-2, that's usually a good sign that they've been treating you as a resident for payroll purposes, which might indicate you should be filing as a resident alien rather than nonresident. Double-check this before choosing your filing method!

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Ev Luca

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This is such an important distinction that I wish someone had explained to me earlier! I made the mistake of assuming my F-1 visa status automatically meant I should file 1040-NR, but after being in the US for several years, I actually passed the substantial presence test and should have been filing as a resident alien. The IRS substantial presence test calculator you mentioned is really helpful - it takes into account not just the current year but also partial days from the previous two years. For anyone on F-1 status, remember that your first 5 calendar years don't count toward the substantial presence test, but once you hit year 6, you need to start calculating. I ended up having to amend two years of returns once I realized my mistake. Definitely worth spending the time upfront to get your tax status right rather than dealing with amendments later. And yes, if your employer issued a W-2 instead of a 1042-S, that's usually a strong indicator they were treating you as a resident for tax purposes.

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This thread is amazing - so much helpful information! I'm in a similar situation as the original poster but have an additional complication. I'm on an H-1B visa and my spouse is on H-4 status. We're trying to figure out if we should file jointly or separately, and whether we both need to file 1040-NR forms. My spouse doesn't have a Social Security Number yet (still waiting for the EAD approval), only an ITIN. Does this affect which forms we need to use? And if we file jointly, do we still use the 1040-NR or switch to the regular 1040? I've been reading about the election to be treated as a resident alien for tax purposes, but I'm not sure if that's beneficial in our case or if it would complicate things further. Has anyone dealt with this situation before?

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Zainab Ali

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I went through a very similar situation last year with my spouse on H-4 status! The ITIN vs SSN issue doesn't change which forms you need to use - it's really about your tax residency status determined by the substantial presence test. If you both meet the substantial presence test (which is likely if you've been in the US most of the year), you can actually file a joint return using Form 1040 (not 1040-NR) even if one spouse only has an ITIN. You'd make the election to be treated as resident aliens for tax purposes by attaching a statement to your first joint return. However, if one or both of you are still considered nonresident aliens, then you'd generally need to file separately - the nonresident spouse would use 1040-NR and the resident spouse (if applicable) would use 1040. The election to be treated as residents can be beneficial because it allows joint filing (often resulting in lower taxes) and access to deductions/credits that nonresidents can't claim. But once you make this election, it applies to all future years until you revoke it or become actual residents. I'd recommend running the numbers both ways or consulting with someone who specializes in nonresident returns before deciding. The tax software mentioned earlier in this thread (like Sprintax or GlacierTax) should be able to help you evaluate both scenarios.

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As someone who works in medical billing and has dealt with countless HSA qualification questions, I wanted to add a few practical points that might help: First, when you get those Letters of Medical Necessity, make sure the doctors use specific medical terminology rather than general descriptions. Words like "functional impairment," "structural defect," and "anatomical abnormality" carry more weight with the IRS than vague terms like "discomfort" or "appearance issues." Second, if your husband has any documented symptoms beyond just the visible separation - back pain, difficulty with certain movements, core weakness affecting daily activities - make sure those are included in the documentation. The more functional impact you can demonstrate, the stronger your case becomes. Third, consider asking your surgeon about getting before/after photos for medical records (not for cosmetic purposes, but to document the structural repair). Some tax professionals recommend this as additional evidence that the procedure addressed a genuine anatomical problem. Finally, don't let the insurance denial discourage you. I see this disconnect all the time - insurance companies are focused on cost containment while the IRS is focused on whether something meets their definition of medical care under the tax code. They're completely separate determinations using different criteria. The fact that your husband lost 85 pounds actually strengthens your case, as it shows this is a medical consequence of significant body changes rather than a purely cosmetic concern.

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Amara Eze

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This is incredibly detailed and practical advice - thank you! As someone new to navigating HSA rules, the specific terminology recommendations are really valuable. I wouldn't have thought about the importance of using precise medical language like "functional impairment" versus more general descriptions. Your point about the 85-pound weight loss actually strengthening the case is reassuring. It helps frame this as a medical consequence of significant body changes rather than an elective procedure, which seems important for IRS purposes. I'm curious about the before/after photos suggestion - would those need to be taken by the medical provider, or could we document the condition ourselves? And should we be asking our surgeon specifically about this during our consultation, or is it something most surgeons automatically include in their records for these types of procedures? Also, since you work in medical billing, do you have any insights on timing? Should we get all this documentation lined up before scheduling the surgery, or is it typical to get the Letters of Medical Necessity after the procedure is already planned but before it's performed?

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The photos should definitely be taken by medical staff as part of your official medical records - patient-taken photos won't carry the same weight with the IRS. Most surgeons who regularly do diastasis recti repairs are familiar with this documentation requirement, but it's worth specifically asking during your consultation. Regarding timing, I always recommend getting the Letters of Medical Necessity before scheduling surgery. Here's why: if for some reason the documentation doesn't support HSA qualification as strongly as you hoped, you'll want to know that before committing to the procedure date and potentially scrambling to find alternative funding. The ideal timeline is: 1) Get letters from both your PCP and surgeon stating medical necessity, 2) Review those letters to ensure they use the right terminology and address functional impacts, 3) Schedule the surgery with confidence that your HSA withdrawal will be justified. Also, make sure both letters specifically mention that this is repair of muscle separation resulting from significant weight loss. That medical context is crucial - it shows this isn't cosmetic enhancement but correction of a structural problem caused by dramatic body changes. The IRS tends to view procedures more favorably when there's a clear medical cause like pregnancy, weight loss, or injury rather than general aging or appearance preferences. One last tip: keep copies of everything related to your husband's weight loss journey too - medical records showing his starting weight, any physician-supervised weight loss programs, documentation of the timeline. This creates a complete medical narrative that supports the necessity of the repair.

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Sophia Long

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation and this thread has been incredibly helpful! My husband is also considering diastasis recti surgery after significant weight loss (about 70 pounds), and we're getting the same "cosmetic" classification from insurance despite clear functional issues. Reading through everyone's experiences, I'm now much more confident about moving forward with HSA funds. The key takeaway seems to be that proper medical documentation is everything - getting those Letters of Medical Necessity that specifically address functional impairment rather than cosmetic concerns. One question I haven't seen addressed: has anyone had experience with the IRS actually reviewing these types of HSA withdrawals? I know we should be prepared with documentation, but I'm curious about the practical likelihood of being questioned about it. Are medical expense HSA withdrawals commonly audited, or is it more of a "prepare for the worst case scenario" situation? Also, for those who've successfully used HSA funds for similar procedures - did you withdraw the money before the surgery date, or wait until after you received the final bills? I'm wondering about the timing logistics of actually accessing the funds when we need them. Thanks to everyone who's shared their experiences and expertise. This community has been invaluable for navigating what felt like an impossible situation with our insurance denial!

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Great question about audit likelihood! From what I've researched and heard from others, HSA withdrawals for medical expenses aren't automatically flagged for review unless they're unusually large or frequent. The IRS mainly seems to audit HSA withdrawals when they suspect non-medical use. That said, it's always better to be prepared. The documentation everyone's mentioned here - Letters of Medical Necessity, medical records, receipts - is really your insurance policy against any questions that might arise. Regarding timing, I'd recommend waiting until you have the final bills before making the HSA withdrawal. This way you know exactly how much to withdraw and you'll have the complete paper trail showing the expense, payment, and withdrawal all align. Plus, some HSA administrators are more accommodating when you can show them the exact medical bills you're paying for. I'm also planning to use HSA funds for a similar procedure after reading through this thread. The advice about focusing on functional impairment in the medical documentation has been a game-changer for how I'm approaching this with my doctors. It's reassuring to see so many people successfully navigate this situation!

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