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Emma Bianchi

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This happened to me too when I started my job in Kalamazoo! The anxiety is totally understandable, but you're being smart by catching it now instead of next April. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - if you're really worried about the lump sum payment, you can also make estimated tax payments online through EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System) instead of waiting to fix everything through payroll. It's the official IRS payment system and you can set up recurring payments if that helps with budgeting. Also, since you mentioned this is only your second real job, there's a good chance your previous year's tax liability was pretty low. If you can find last year's tax return (or if you didn't need to file because you didn't earn enough), that could actually work in your favor for avoiding underpayment penalties. The key thing is don't let this drag on - every week you wait just makes the eventual catch-up amount bigger. But honestly, dealing with it in July gives you way more options than people who discover this problem in December!

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Amara Okafor

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Thanks for mentioning EFTPS! I hadn't heard of that system before. For someone like me who's still learning about all this tax stuff, is EFTPS complicated to set up? And do you know if there's a minimum payment amount or any fees involved? Also, you make a great point about timing - I keep seeing people say "at least you caught it early" but I wasn't really sure what the difference was between fixing it now versus later in the year. It sounds like the main benefit is just having more paychecks left to spread out the catch-up withholding, right? Or are there other advantages to addressing it sooner rather than later? @Grace Patel - definitely look into whether Detroit has city taxes! I think some Michigan cities do charge local income tax on top of everything else.

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Kylo Ren

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Grace, you're definitely right to address this quickly! I went through something similar when I started working in Michigan a few years back. Here's my practical advice: First, get that W-4 situation sorted with HR immediately - don't put this off another week. When you meet with them, ask them to show you exactly what's on file so you can see what went wrong. Second, while you're fixing the W-4, ask payroll if they can withhold an extra amount from each remaining paycheck to help catch up. You can calculate this by estimating your total federal tax liability for the year, then dividing by however many paychecks you have left. This approach keeps everything going through your employer rather than dealing with separate estimated payments. Third, definitely start setting money aside immediately - even if you fix your withholding today, you'll still need to cover those first 3 months when nothing was taken out. A good rule of thumb is to save about 20-25% of your gross pay from those missed months. The good news is that since this is only your second job, your prior year tax liability was probably pretty low, which could help you avoid underpayment penalties under the IRS safe harbor rules. But don't count on that - just fix it now and you'll sleep better! Detroit doesn't have a city income tax, so at least you don't have to worry about that additional complication. You've got this - just don't wait another day to talk to HR!

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This is really helpful advice! I'm also relatively new to all this tax stuff and had a quick question about the "extra withholding" approach you mentioned. When you ask payroll to withhold extra from remaining paychecks, do you just tell them a dollar amount per paycheck, or do you need to use specific forms or calculations? I'm wondering because I might be in a similar situation and want to make sure I approach HR the right way. Also, is there any risk of withholding TOO much and then having to wait for a big refund next year? @Grace Patel - thanks for posting about this! It s'really reassuring to see I m'not the only one dealing with tax confusion in their early career.

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Don't forget to make quarterly estimated tax payments this year if you're still working as a contractor! I learned this the hard way and got hit with underpayment penalties on top of my huge tax bill. The IRS expects you to pay taxes throughout the year, not just at filing time.

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How do you figure out how much to pay for quarterly taxes? Is there a specific form or calculator?

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For quarterly estimated taxes, you'll want to use Form 1040-ES. The easiest approach is to take your total expected tax for the year (including self-employment tax) and divide by 4. A good rule of thumb is to set aside about 30-35% of your 1099 income for taxes if you're in a typical tax bracket. This covers both income tax and self-employment tax. The IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator on their website that can help calculate a more precise amount based on your specific situation. Due dates are April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year. Missing these can result in penalties, even if you pay everything by the April filing deadline!

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This is such a frustrating situation, and you're definitely not alone! I went through something similar when I first started getting 1099s. The shock of that self-employment tax hit is real - it's basically paying both sides of Social Security and Medicare taxes that would normally be split between you and an employer. Here's what I wish someone had told me earlier: Start documenting EVERYTHING work-related right now, even if it seems minor. Mileage to work sites, your phone bill (if you use it for work), internet costs, any supplies or equipment you bought, even parking fees. These can all be legitimate business deductions that will reduce your taxable income. Also, based on what you described (set schedule, boss giving you directions, working at their location), you might actually have grounds to dispute your classification. The IRS looks at factors like who controls your work, whether you use their tools/equipment, and if you're integrated into their business operations. It sounds like you were functioning as an employee, not an independent contractor. Don't panic about the $4,800 - with proper deductions and potentially disputing your classification, that number could come down significantly. Just make sure you file on time even if you can't pay the full amount immediately. The IRS has payment plan options that are much better than facing penalties for late filing.

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Zara Malik

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to dealing with 1099s and had no idea about documenting all those work-related expenses. When you mention parking fees and mileage - do you need to keep receipts for everything or is there a simpler way to track it? Also, how do you determine what percentage of your phone/internet bill counts as a business expense? I don't want to mess up the deductions and trigger an audit.

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Jabari-Jo

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Just wanted to add one important thing about the home office deduction - make sure you're keeping REALLY good documentation of your expenses, especially for a dedicated space like yours. My side business got audited last year and they specifically wanted proof that my home office was used "regularly and exclusively" for business. I had photos of my home office setup, a floor plan showing the measurements, and a log of hours worked in that space. The auditor was satisfied, but mentioned that home offices are a red flag and get extra scrutiny. Better to be over-prepared than risk having legitimate deductions disallowed.

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Thanks for the heads-up about documentation. What kind of log did you keep? Like a daily journal of work hours or something more detailed? I'm worried now because I haven't been tracking anything except the square footage percentage.

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Jabari-Jo

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Nothing super formal for the log - just a simple spreadsheet where I tracked dates and hours when I used the office for business purposes. I also kept my business calendar that showed client meetings (virtual ones held in my office). The auditor seemed most interested in proving the space was used exclusively for business, not occasionally as a guest room or for other purposes. The square footage calculation is important, but having dated photos of your dedicated office setup throughout the year can help too. The auditor told me many people claim home offices that are really just the kitchen table or a corner of the living room, which doesn't qualify as "exclusive" use.

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For everyone confused about direct vs indirect expenses on Form 8829: - Direct expenses: Only benefit your home office (like painting just that room) - Indirect expenses: Benefit your entire home including the office (mortgage interest, property taxes, utilities, insurance) Calculate indirect expenses by multiplying the total expense by your office percentage (15% in your case). The form will do this math for you. Most people only have indirect expenses unless they did something specifically to just the office room.

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Micah Trail

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This is the clearest explanation I've seen! Question: does internet service count as direct or indirect if I use it throughout the house but need it for business?

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quick question - did you refinance recently? sometmes when you refinance your mortgage the points and fees can affect your taxes in weird ways. happened to me last yr and i was so confused.

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Points from a refinance are actually deducted differently than points from an initial mortgage purchase. With a refi, you have to spread the deduction of those points over the life of the loan (like 15 or 30 years) instead of taking them all at once like you can with an initial home purchase. That could definitely affect tax calculations!

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This exact same thing happened to me when I bought my first home! It's super confusing but there are actually several things that could be causing this beyond just the standard vs itemized deduction issue. One possibility is that entering your homeownership info is triggering the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) calculation. The AMT has different rules for deductions and can sometimes result in a higher tax liability, which would reduce your refund. Another thing to check - are you eligible for any first-time homebuyer credits or education credits that might have income phase-outs? Sometimes adding mortgage interest can push your adjusted gross income into a range where you start losing other credits. Also, make sure your mortgage company reported everything correctly on your 1098 form. Sometimes they include things like mortgage insurance premiums or other fees that need to be handled differently for tax purposes. I'd suggest going through your tax software step by step and looking at exactly which line items changed when you added the mortgage info. That should help pinpoint what's actually causing the reduction in your refund.

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Leo McDonald

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This is really helpful! I never even thought about AMT being a factor. How can I tell if that's what's happening in my case? Is there a specific line on the tax forms or in TurboTax where I can see if AMT is being calculated? Also, you mentioned checking the 1098 form - mine shows mortgage interest of $7,800 and then has some other smaller amounts listed. Should I be concerned if there are discrepancies between what I actually paid and what's reported on the 1098?

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StormChaser

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Don't forget that if your mom provides childcare in YOUR home rather than hers, the tax situation changes. She might actually be considered a household employee (like a nanny) rather than self-employed. If that's the case, you might need to pay employment taxes (Social Security and Medicare). There's a household employment tax threshold ($2,600 for 2025), and if you paid her more than that in a calendar year, you'd need to look into "nanny taxes" using Schedule H with your tax return. It gets complicated quickly!

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Is it just about WHERE the childcare happens? My mother-in-law watches my kids at my house 3 days a week and at her house 2 days. How would we handle that split situation?

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Yara Sayegh

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It's not just about location - the key factor is whether she has control over how the work is performed or if you're directing her activities. If she's essentially following your schedule, using your supplies, and you're controlling when and how she provides care, she's likely a household employee regardless of location. For a split situation like yours, the IRS would look at the overall arrangement. If the majority of control rests with you (setting schedules, providing materials, directing activities), then the entire arrangement would likely be treated as household employment, even if some care happens at her house. However, if she has significant independence - like setting her own rates, providing her own supplies, caring for other children, and having control over her methods - she might qualify as an independent contractor for the whole arrangement. The $2,600 threshold would apply to your total payments to her for the year, not split by location.

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LilMama23

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Just want to add another consideration that often gets overlooked - make sure to keep detailed records of all payments to your mom throughout the year. The IRS recommends maintaining records like cancelled checks, bank statements, or receipts showing dates and amounts paid. Since you mentioned paying around $5,500, you're well above the household employment threshold that StormChaser mentioned. Even if your mom ends up being classified as self-employed rather than a household employee, having clear documentation will be crucial if you're ever audited. Also, consider having a simple written agreement with your mom outlining the childcare arrangement, even though she's family. This can help establish whether she's truly self-employed (setting her own terms, rates, methods) or if she's more like a household employee (following your schedule and directions). The IRS looks at the degree of control you have over the work when making this determination. One last tip - if your mom does end up owing self-employment taxes on this income, she might want to make quarterly estimated tax payments for next year to avoid penalties, especially if this arrangement continues.

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Zara Ahmed

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This is such great advice about keeping detailed records! I'm actually in a very similar situation - just started paying my aunt to watch my twins, and I had no idea about the household employment threshold. One question about the written agreement you mentioned - are there specific things that should be included to help establish whether someone is self-employed vs. a household employee? Like should it specify that she sets her own rates or methods of care? I want to make sure we document this correctly from the start rather than trying to figure it out later when tax time comes around. Also, do you know if there are any templates or examples of these types of family childcare agreements that might help ensure we're covering all the important points?

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