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Has anyone used the annualized income method instead? I'm in a similar situation but my income is VERY uneven throughout the year, so paying equal installments seems like it would create cash flow problems for me.
I use the annualized income method every year! It's more paperwork (Form 2210 with Schedule AI) but worth it if your income varies a lot. Basically you calculate your tax based on actual income for each period rather than paying equal installments. The periods are weird though - first period is Jan-Mar, second is Jan-May, third is Jan-Aug, and fourth is the full year. You have to recalculate each time based on income received up to that point, annualized for the full year.
I'm in a very similar boat - just started freelancing in March and was totally confused about estimated payments! Reading through all these responses has been super helpful. One thing I'd add is to make sure you're also setting aside money for self-employment tax (the additional 15.3% for Social Security and Medicare) on top of your regular income tax. That caught me off guard my first year since as a W-2 employee, half of that was paid by my employer. Also, don't forget that you can deduct half of the self-employment tax when calculating your adjusted gross income, which can help reduce your overall tax burden. It's not huge but every bit helps when you're navigating this for the first time! The safe harbor route definitely seems like the way to go for peace of mind, especially in your first year when you're still figuring out your income patterns.
This is such great advice about the self-employment tax! I'm also new to this and totally didn't realize that as a W-2 employee my employer was covering half of that. So when calculating my quarterly payments, I need to account for both the regular income tax AND the full 15.3% for Social Security and Medicare? Also, can you explain more about deducting half of the self-employment tax? Does that mean I can reduce my taxable income by half of what I pay in self-employment tax, or is it more complicated than that? I'm trying to wrap my head around all these moving pieces - between estimated payments, safe harbor rules, and now self-employment tax calculations, it feels like there's so much to track!
Same here! Filed 2/4 and got the exact same codes on my transcript yesterday. The waiting is killing me but sounds like we're in good shape based on what everyone's saying. Fingers crossed we see that 846 code soon π€
Hey Jessica! We're practically twins - filed just one day apart and got the same codes. This whole thread has been super helpful, especially learning what all these numbers actually mean. Never thought I'd be so excited to see a 846 code lol. Hope we both get our DDDs this week! π€
I'm in the exact same situation! Filed 2/3 and just saw my transcript update with codes 150, 806, 766, and 768. It's so nerve-wracking not knowing what's happening but this thread has been super informative. Thanks everyone for breaking down what these codes mean - sounds like we're on the right track and just need to be patient for that 846 code to show up. The IRS really needs to make this process more transparent for taxpayers!
This is really helpful information, everyone. I've been dealing with this same frustration - seems like there's no way around sales tax anymore since that Wayfair decision changed everything. I think the key takeaway here is that trying to dodge sales tax isn't worth the risk of penalties and interest charges. The legitimate approaches seem to be: 1) looking for business expense deductions if applicable, 2) negotiating discounts that offset the tax (especially in physical stores), and 3) just accepting that sales tax is part of the cost of doing business online now. Has anyone had success with timing purchases around sales events to offset the tax burden? Like waiting for Black Friday deals that are deep enough to more than cover the sales tax? That seems like the most straightforward legal approach - just finding legitimate discounts that are bigger than the tax you're paying.
That's a really smart approach! I've definitely had success with timing major purchases around big sale events. Last Black Friday, I got a gaming laptop that was 30% off, which more than covered the 8.75% sales tax in my area. Prime Day and end-of-year clearance sales can also offer discounts that dwarf the tax amount. Another thing I've noticed is that some retailers offer price matching policies that can help offset sales tax costs. If you find a lower price at a competitor (even if that competitor doesn't collect tax in your state), stores like Best Buy will often match it, effectively giving you a discount that covers the tax. The key is just being patient and strategic about when you buy rather than trying to work around the tax system itself. Much less stressful and completely above board!
Great discussion everyone! As someone who's been navigating this issue for a while, I wanted to add that another legitimate strategy is to take advantage of state tax holidays if your state offers them. Many states have sales tax holidays for back-to-school shopping, emergency preparedness supplies, or energy-efficient appliances where you can legally avoid sales tax on qualifying purchases during specific time periods. Also, don't forget about legitimate exemptions you might qualify for. If you're a reseller with a valid resale certificate, nonprofit organization, or making purchases for certain agricultural or manufacturing purposes, you may be exempt from sales tax on qualifying purchases. It's worth checking if any of your purchases fall into exempt categories. The timing strategy mentioned by Emma and Paolo is really solid - I've saved hundreds by waiting for major sales events where the discount percentage exceeds my state's tax rate. Sometimes patience is the best tax strategy!
This is such valuable information! I had no idea about sales tax holidays - I'll definitely need to look up what my state offers. Do you know if there's a good resource to find out when these tax holidays happen? I feel like I always hear about them after they've already passed. The resale certificate point is interesting too. I do some occasional reselling of items I buy and flip online - would that potentially qualify me for exemptions on purchases I intend to resell? I know there are probably specific requirements and paperwork involved, but it might be worth looking into if I'm going to keep doing this regularly. Really appreciate everyone sharing legitimate strategies instead of the sketchy workarounds I was initially considering!
To all those having trouble reaching a human at IRS. I just ran across this video that gave me a shortcut to reach a human. Hope it helps! https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c
This happened to me too Teresa! The amount disappearing with topic 152 is actually pretty normal during processing. Mine disappeared for about 10 days then came back with a deposit date. The 152 code just means they're reviewing your return - could be random or just normal processing delays. I'd give it another week or two before worrying. If your shows no error codes, that's a good sign that nothing is seriously wrong with your return.
Thanks for sharing your experience Jayden! I'm dealing with the same thing right now and it's so nerve-wracking when that amount just vanishes. Really helpful to hear it came back for you - gives me hope that mine will too. Did you do anything specific during those 10 days or just wait it out?
QuantumQuasar
One thing I wish I had known earlier - make sure you're tracking your time spent on your Poshmark business! The IRS uses this to determine if you qualify as a business vs. hobby. If they classify it as a hobby, you can't deduct expenses that exceed your income. Keep a simple log of hours spent sourcing, photographing, listing, packaging, and shipping. This documentation helps establish that you're running a legitimate business with profit motive, not just casually selling items. The "hobby loss rule" can be a real problem for resellers if you have a loss year or the IRS decides to audit. Also, since you mentioned setting up better tracking for this year - consider opening a separate business checking account even if you're not formally incorporated. It makes record-keeping so much cleaner and shows the IRS you're treating this as a real business operation.
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Felix Grigori
β’This is really valuable advice about the hobby vs. business classification! I had no idea that time tracking could be so important for tax purposes. How detailed does the time log need to be? Like do I need to track it down to the minute, or is general time blocks sufficient? And for someone just starting out with better record keeping, would a simple spreadsheet work or do you recommend specific apps for tracking business hours?
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Noland Curtis
Great question about record keeping! A simple spreadsheet is absolutely sufficient for tracking your business hours - you don't need fancy apps or minute-by-minute precision. I track mine in 15-30 minute blocks which works well for IRS purposes. For your time log, include columns for: Date, Activity (sourcing, listing, shipping, etc.), Start/End times, and total hours. The IRS mainly wants to see that you're spending substantial and regular time on the business, showing profit motive rather than casual hobby activity. Regarding the separate business checking account that QuantumQuasar mentioned - this is excellent advice even for sole proprietors. Most banks offer simple business checking accounts, and it makes your Schedule C preparation so much easier when all business income and expenses flow through one dedicated account. It also strengthens your position if the IRS ever questions whether you're operating a legitimate business. One more tip: since you're already organizing last year's receipts, consider scanning them or taking photos as backups. Physical receipts can fade or get damaged, and having digital copies stored securely gives you extra protection for potential audits.
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Yara Abboud
β’This is incredibly helpful advice! I'm just getting started with reselling and already dreading tax season next year. The tip about scanning/photographing receipts as backups is something I wouldn't have thought of but makes total sense - I've definitely had receipts from stores fade to the point where you can barely read them. Quick follow-up question: when you mention "substantial and regular time" for the business vs hobby determination, is there a rough threshold the IRS looks for? Like if I'm spending 5-10 hours a week on my reselling activities, would that typically be considered substantial enough to qualify as a business rather than a hobby? Also, for the separate business checking account - do most banks require any special business registration or can you open one as a sole proprietor just using your SSN?
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