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I went through the exact same situation when I bought my house two years ago! My mortgage was sold before my first payment too, and the new servicer's 1098 was missing the points. Here's what worked for me: I called the original lender (the one who actually processed my closing) and explained that their 1098 reporting was incomplete since the loan was sold. They were actually pretty helpful once I got through to the right department - turns out this happens frequently when mortgages are sold quickly after closing. They issued a corrected 1098 within about 10 business days. The key is to have your loan number from the original lender (should be on your closing documents) and your closing disclosure showing the points payment. If for some reason you can't get the corrected 1098, you can absolutely still claim the deduction using your closing disclosure as supporting documentation. Just make sure to keep detailed records in case of any questions later. The closing disclosure is an official HUD document, so it carries a lot of weight as proof of what you actually paid. Don't stress too much about it - this is more common than you'd think with how often mortgages get sold these days!
This is really helpful! I'm curious - when you called the original lender, did you have to speak to a specific department or did regular customer service handle it? I'm dreading having to navigate through multiple transfers to find someone who actually understands this issue. Also, did they charge you anything for issuing the corrected 1098?
I actually work for a tax prep company and see this exact scenario multiple times every tax season! When mortgages are sold quickly after closing (especially before the first payment), the points reporting often gets lost in the shuffle between lenders. Here's the good news: you have several solid options. First, definitely try contacting the ORIGINAL lender who handled your closing - they're the ones responsible for reporting those points since you paid them at closing. Have your original loan number and closing disclosure ready when you call. If they're unresponsive or unhelpful, don't panic. Your closing disclosure is actually considered primary documentation by the IRS for points paid. You can claim the full $4,500 deduction on Schedule A using that document as support. Just make sure to keep detailed records and maybe include a brief note about the 1098 discrepancy when you file. Since this was for your primary residence purchase (not a refinance), the points should be fully deductible this year rather than amortized over the loan term. The fact that they're specifically listed as "discount points" on your closing disclosure makes this pretty straightforward. One tip: if you do get pushback from the original lender, mention that this is required tax reporting under IRS regulations - sometimes that gets you transferred to someone who actually knows what they're doing!
Just keep in mind that reverse exchanges are way more expensive - we paid almost $12K in additional fees for ours. Make sure the tax savings actually outweigh the costs!
That seems crazy high for fees! Was that just for the QI and EAT setup or did that include other closing costs too? The quote I got was around $6K for the reverse exchange services.
That included everything - the QI fees, legal documentation, EAT setup, title insurance for both properties, and additional closing costs. The base fee for the QI and EAT was about $7K, then the rest was for the additional complexity in closing costs. Our situation was more complex than most though since we were exchanging across state lines and one property was in an LLC. If your situation is straightforward, your $6K quote sounds reasonable. Just make sure to get everything in writing and check for any potential additional fees that might come up.
Great discussion here! I'm actually in the middle of a reverse 1031 exchange right now and wanted to share a few additional tips that have helped me: 1. Start your property search for the replacement property early and get pre-approved financing lined up. The 180-day clock starts ticking the moment you close on the replacement property, so you want to be ready to move quickly on selling your relinquished property. 2. Consider hiring a real estate agent who has experience with 1031 exchanges. They understand the timeline pressures and can help price your original property aggressively to ensure it sells within the exchange period. 3. Have your tax documents and property records organized before you start. The QI will need detailed information about your original property's basis, improvements, and depreciation history. The reverse exchange process definitely requires more coordination than a standard exchange, but it's been worth it for us to secure the replacement property we really wanted. Just make sure you have a good team - QI, real estate agent, accountant, and lender who all understand the process and timelines involved.
Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting gambling winnings? Does it walk you through the process well or should I use a different tax software?
I used TurboTax last year for my casino winnings. It handles the basics okay, but if you have complicated gambling scenarios (like professional gambling or large losses), you might need more help. It does ask about W-2Gs and gives you a place to enter additional gambling income not reported on forms.
One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet - keep ALL your receipts from the casino, not just the W-2G forms. This includes ATM receipts, food/drink receipts, parking receipts, even hotel receipts if you stayed overnight. These help establish a timeline and can support your gambling activity documentation. Also, consider opening a separate bank account just for gambling if you plan to do this regularly. It makes tracking so much easier come tax time. You deposit your gambling bankroll, withdraw winnings, and everything is cleanly separated from your regular finances. And remember - gambling winnings are subject to both federal AND state taxes in most states, so don't forget to check your state's specific requirements. Some states have different thresholds for reporting than the federal government.
This is really helpful advice! The separate bank account idea is brilliant - I wish I'd thought of that before my casino trip. Quick question though - for the ATM receipts, do those actually count as valid documentation for losses? I used the ATM at the casino multiple times but wasn't sure if that would hold up if I got audited, since technically I could have used that cash for anything once I withdrew it.
3 One thing nobody mentioned - make sure you keep a copy of that W9 form you filled out. I had an issue where my former landlord sent me a 1099 with incorrect information because they messed up entering my SSN from the W9. It was a huge hassle to fix, and having my copy of the form helped prove I gave them the correct info.
8 Good point! But don't landlords need to verify our SSNs before processing? How'd they mess that up?
Most landlords don't verify SSNs during the rental process - they just collect the W9 and enter the info into their system when they need to issue tax forms. Human error happens all the time when transcribing numbers. I've seen landlords transpose digits, miss numbers, or even pull info from the wrong tenant's file. The IRS doesn't cross-check SSNs on W9s either - they just use whatever the payer reports. That's why keeping your copy is so important for situations like this!
Great discussion everyone! As someone who's dealt with this exact situation, I wanted to add that it's also worth checking if your state has any specific requirements about when landlords must pay out accrued interest. Some states require annual interest payments to tenants, while others only require it at the end of the lease. This can affect when you'd receive a 1099-INT - you might get one each year if they pay interest annually, or just one big form when you move out if they hold it until lease termination. Your lease agreement should specify which approach your landlord uses. Also, keep in mind that even small amounts of interest income need to be reported on your tax return, regardless of whether you receive a 1099-INT form.
This is really helpful context about state-specific requirements! I hadn't thought about the timing differences between annual vs. end-of-lease interest payments. Do you know where I can find information about my specific state's requirements? I'm realizing I should probably read through my lease more carefully to see what it says about interest payments. Also, just to confirm - even if the interest is only like $5 for the year and I don't get a 1099-INT, I still need to report it on my taxes?
Aaliyah Jackson
I had the exact same issue last year! The problem is that when you and your spouse both work, each payroll system calculates withholding as if that's the only income in your household. So you're effectively getting double the standard deduction in your withholding calculations. Quick fix: take your combined annual income, find what tax bracket portions of it fall into, then calculate how much EXTRA tax you should be paying on that combined income vs what's being withheld. Divide by number of paychecks left in the year and put that amount in line 4(c) of your W-4s. For example, if together you're $10k into the 22% bracket but being withheld at 12% for that portion, you'd need about $1,000 more withholding for the year, or about $40 per biweekly paycheck each if you split it.
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KylieRose
β’I tried doing this calculation myself last year and still messed it up somehow. Is there a calculator you used? The IRS one kept giving me errors.
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Aaliyah Jackson
β’I actually created a simple spreadsheet that does this calculation. The key thing to remember is that each job's withholding system assumes you get the full standard deduction ($25,900 for married filing jointly in 2022). So when both spouses work, you're effectively getting that deduction twice in your withholding calculations, even though you only get it once when filing. The IRS calculator is definitely the official way to go, but if it's giving you errors, try clearing your browser cache or using a different browser. Sometimes it has technical issues. Alternatively, many major tax software providers like TurboTax and H&R Block have free withholding calculators on their websites that are often more user-friendly than the IRS version.
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Miguel HernΓ‘ndez
Don't feel bad, this happened to tons of people! The W-4 changes plus adjustments to withholding tables have messed up a lot of people's withholding. My husband and I owed $3k this year despite having "0" allowances for years with no problems. One thing no one's mentioned - check if your health insurance premiums or retirement contributions changed significantly. Those are pre-tax deductions that affect your withholding calculations. In our case, we switched to a cheaper health plan, which meant more taxable income but the withholding didn't adjust properly to account for it.
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DeShawn Washington
β’That's a good point about the health insurance! We did switch to a high-deductible plan this year to save on premiums. I didn't realize that could affect withholding calculations. So we had more taxable income but the withholding didn't keep up?
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Olivia Evans
β’Exactly! When you switch to a high-deductible health plan, your monthly premiums go down, which means less money is being deducted pre-tax from your paycheck. This increases your taxable income, but your W-4 withholding settings stayed the same, so not enough additional tax was being withheld to cover that higher taxable amount. It's one of those sneaky things that can throw off your withholding without you realizing it. The same thing happens if you reduce your 401k contributions, pay off student loans (losing the interest deduction), or even if your employer stops providing certain benefits that were previously reducing your taxable income. When you update your W-4s, make sure to account for these kinds of changes in your overall tax picture, not just the income amounts.
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